Why does Nellie keep getting coaching jobs?

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Originally Posted by DarrinS

He sure made them a lot better.

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so? little general is a good coach, doesn't mean he'd take the Warriors to the finals.

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Originally Posted by boutons_

"his teams never get past the 2nd round."

never? 2003? Spurs were lucky Dirk was hurt.

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and mavs were lucky webber was hurt in rd 2

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Originally Posted by Amuseddaysleeper

and mavs were lucky webber was hurt in rd 2

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Yeah they were.

Until last year, the Spurs and Kings never got to throw down in the playoffs. During the Kings heyday it was always the Lakers or Mavs getting in the way.

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Originally Posted by CaptMike

Well, let's be honest here. If not for Steve Kerr and the Spurs in '03, Nellie would most likely have gotten his ring.

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Um, WTF? The Spurs had already erased all but like 2 points of Dallas' lead before Kerr starting shooting. It pisses me off that no one remembers Stephen Jackson as the hero of that game.

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Originally Posted by baseline bum

Um, WTF? The Spurs had already erased all but like 2 points of Dallas' lead before Kerr starting shooting. It pisses me off that no one remembers Stephen Jackson as the hero of that game.

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I do and so do a few others.

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Originally Posted by SenorSpur

Even if he does somehow manage to "squeeze" them into the playoffs, his teams never get past the 2nd round.

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He coached the Bucks to the ECF in th following seasons:
'82-'83
'83-'84
'85-'86
Never say never.

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Originally Posted by cherylsteele

He coached the Bucks to the ECF in th following seasons:
'82-'83
'83-'84
'85-'86
Never say never.

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Those are some of the most underrated teams in NBA history, and Sidney Moncrief is one of the most underrated players I've ever seen. His Bucks went and swept Bird and the Celtics, 4-0, back in '83. I used to love watching the Bucks with Moncrief, TC, Ricky Pierce, and Paul Pressey (I was too young to see them at Moncrief's peak though).

It is a curious phenomenon to me that the NBA (and other sports) have this habit of recycling coaches - as if, well, this person couldn't coach worth a damn for this team, maybe they'll be the savior for this other team. It's pretty illogical. Now, I understand that occasionally it does happen that a team and a coach are just not a good fit, but more often than not, the coach is just not good enough.

Paul Silas? Rick Carlisle? Maurice Cheeks? Byron Scott? There's no evidence these guys can coach worth a damn, even though they may have been decent players. They're been shifted around so much I think it's time for their teams to bring in someone totally new, totally fresh, instead of some other team's recycled hasbeen.

I think it's interesting that the two new coaches I can think of in the NBA (AJ and Mike D'Antoni) are currently coaching for two of the top 3 teams in the NBA. One could posit that those two teams really benefited from having fresh new ideas and leadership.

Youre right. He is a great starter coach/setup man in the NBA. Nellie is there, in my opinion, to get the team to the playoffs and to put butts in seats. From there i assume they'll put in a playoff caliber coach.

And nellie did a lot for the mavs, but this team moved away from that and now have a totally different identity under avery. IMO dirk with avery, way better than dirk with nellie.

The question you should be asking is how does BOB HILL keep getting coaching jobs. At least you have fun watching Nellie's teams (unless he is doing his "gimmick of the week" thing against your team) and they win a lot of regular season games.

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Originally Posted by Supergirl

It is a curious phenomenon to me that the NBA (and other sports) have this habit of recycling coaches - as if, well, this person couldn't coach worth a damn for this team, maybe they'll be the savior for this other team. It's pretty illogical. Now, I understand that occasionally it does happen that a team and a coach are just not a good fit, but more often than not, the coach is just not good enough.

Paul Silas? Rick Carlisle? Maurice Cheeks? Byron Scott? There's no evidence these guys can coach worth a damn, even though they may have been decent players. They're been shifted around so much I think it's time for their teams to bring in someone totally new, totally fresh, instead of some other team's recycled hasbeen.

I think it's interesting that the two new coaches I can think of in the NBA (AJ and Mike D'Antoni) are currently coaching for two of the top 3 teams in the NBA. One could posit that those two teams really benefited from having fresh new ideas and leadership.

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I agree with your sentiment, but you picked two bad examples in your list of retreads.

Byron Scott took two Nets teams to the NBA Finals, something his replacement hasn't been able to do despite having more talent. And he's done a decent job the past two years with a Hornets team that nobody expected much out of.

Carlisle has a COY and in his first three years accomplished about as much as D'Antoni.

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Originally Posted by mavs4ever

cuz he knows how to party after a game.

he dont pussyfoot around in a tootoo sipping a dainty wine glass like some crater faced sissyboy, he chugs coronas, and he dont wait till after the cameras are off.

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LOL him doing the interview with a case of beer in hand was definitely one of his greatest moments ever.

They say that during the playoffs on the team plane, Nellie would regularly be getting hammered while playing poker as he let Avery handle all the planning for the next game in the series.

Its simple. He makes bad teams into contenders. He made the Warriors what they were in the 90's, he made the Bucks what they were in the 80's and he made the Mavs what they are today. Not to mention he's the guy who traded Tractor Traylor for Dirk Nowitzki. He's the one who drafted Josh with the #29th pick. He's the one who traded Juwan Howard for Lafrentz and Van Exel. He's made great moves. The Warriors don't have the personnel to play defense so why bother? If he had a starting lineup of Bruce Bowen, Dwight Howard, Ron Artest, Jason Kidd and Kobe Bryant than yea i'm sure they'd be playing better defense. But they don't have the personnel.