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my idea would be that the next time these 2 teams play eachother in detroit.. they should have to play in an empty arena, punish the organization by making them refund the ticket prices, followed by no beer sale allowed for the rest of the season, i dont know if its possible, but if it is, that would be my idea
Perhaps, shoe, because I already have. Your argument is silly and apparently I'm not in the minority in this forum who feels that way, not by a long shot.
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Originally Posted by Kori Ellis
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Forget that. Don't punish the entire fan base. Punish those responsible.Quote:
Originally Posted by GINNNNNNNNNNNNOBILI
If you want to punish the organization, force them to have to give away all tickets and refund all pre-purchased tickets for the next five games. The fans could win tickets in some sort of lottery process. The fans get to attend, some lower income individuals get to see a game, and the Pistons lose five games-worth of revenue.
"to play in an empty arena"
Yep. has happened serveral times in European football matches to chastize hooligans on both sides. hits the team's revenue pretty hard.
I can go along with that idea Brodels. It sounds good to me.
Marcus, you're not adding anything to this conversation. Next. Because it looks like several posters are also agreeing with me, along with many notable and recognized sportscasters and NBA players.
i believe you have to punish everyone in attendance, because obviously u arent gonna be able to punish every exact person who participated, i think u have to punish everyone
Why would you punish people who saved money to buy season tickets to watch games with their kids and had nothing to do with the melee?
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I do not think any completly agrees with you
I do not
I think all want the fan who threw liquid on ron be punished though
Stern is on now.
Kori, it's a situation where a few bad apples ruin the whole lot for everyone else. Now, do I think the NBA would have the balls to actually go through with my suggestion? Of course not. But a message has to be sent that this type of behaviour is not appropriate by the fans, whatsoever.
It's not like sports fans haven't been punished in such a way before. So there is definitely a precedence for it.
It looks like Stern is taking a stand against the fans right now live in the press conference. Of course, it's just talk, so hopefully he'll follow up with action as well.
Oh, you found one poster and a bunch of players who predictably are siding with the players. I know you can't handle the fact that I and others have eviscerated your lame ass arguments. I've brought plenty, you've brought nothing.
I agree with this punishment. I don't think you should punish all the fans, just the ones who threw things. Ban them for the season.
Punish those responsible....take away picks from the Pacers and fine the Piston organization as long as you can find deficiencies in the security contract between the NBA and the Palace at Auburn Hills. If the Pistons were compliant with all security measures there should be a complete overhaul on how security is directed on all NBA teams. This is horrible and I'm embarrassed to be a fan right now. Punks all of them...maybe they should make fighting legal in the NBA like in Hockey and punish each players 5 games if they want to fight. Maybe that will get the aggression out, but this is getting out of hand. It's this gangsta mentally that has seaped into this game and the NBA is promoting it unknowingly.
All of these are good ideas for punishment for the city of Detroit, but remember that this city is home of the defending NBA champions, with lots of TV time and exposure this season. And that a couple hundred out of the 20,000 attending deserve punishment, not the whole fan base. They'll let the cops deal with the fans, the NBA did their part with the players.
It's completely unfair and poor business to make the Pistons play in an empty arena. How many of you guys know people that never went to a Spurs game until they won the title in '99?
Marcus, I've used a previous case as precedence. Now, whether or not you agree with it is for another matter. But I'm using facts. You're just sitting there whining and crying, as usual.
Anyhow, you're entitled to your opinion. No harm done.
One fan threw a fucking beer. In a plastic cup. One fan. Give me a break. All you bring is some lame example from Europe where fans throw real shit, not refreshments.
Punish that fan. No need to punish all fans for the actions of one. Going by your logic, all players on the court should have been punished for the actions of the few.
What previous case in the NBA? Thank you.
Nope, a fan threw a chair, a couple of fans came out on the floor, etc. It was more than just throwing a cup of Bud Light.
well it punishes the fan base as a whole, sending a message that nothing like this will be tolerated.Quote:
Why would you punish people who saved money to buy season tickets to watch games with their kids and had nothing to do with the melee?
Why in college basketball to they punish kids on a team like michigan for a mistake chris webber made 10 years ago?
why does a team like minnesota get punished for somethin between an exec. and joe smith? why not just punish to the 2 involved?
Im only saying make it 1 game they cant go to, make either the detroit team or/and the indiana team refund all ticket prices, hell make the players pay the refunds, either way you know how heavily secured the next pacer piston game in detroit would have to be? would you want to take ur kids to a game where emotions will be flying as high as that?
By the way, you have to be out of your fucking mind anyone to jump into a hostile crowd in Detroit unarmed.
Previous case in sports. Thank you. Right now Stern is talking about future actions/punishments against the fans.
You're not using facts and logic. Also, you are "whining and crying" as much as you seem to think I am. Give it a rest already. Your argument has been made in this forum already again and again. We don't need to see it for the 50th fucking time.
Again, Artest went into the crowd because the fan threw a plastic cup at him. That's what started it. At least get your "facts" correct.
adidass11 you still have not answered if it was right what jack nickson did