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Re: mickael pietrus has got to be got
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Originally Posted by Streakyshooter08
How is the cap situation of the Warriors? Do they have more than the MLE to sign him? I would like to see him in silver and black also...
As he is currently a member of the Warriors, they could theoretically sign him to a max-deal and not have to worry about the salary cap. Of course, that would vault them millions past the luxury tax threshold and they would be vastly overpaying for his services.
It's also important to note that Pietrus is a restricted free agent, so if he signed an offer sheet from any team, the Warriors would have the opportunity to match.
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Pietrus is inconsistent. He was okay before the arrival of Sjax and Harrington, his minutes since then were cutback along with his confidence and consistency. He might go perfect from the field or go 0-10. It's never a sure thing.
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Re: mickael pietrus has got to be got
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Originally Posted by yavozerb
above average defender (without the help of team defense)
above average atheleticism
above average rebounder for SG
only 25 years old
could be had for 3 million a year..
Sorry, but Pietrus won't be had for $3M per year.
With the way he's playing in these playoffs, he'll be a hot commodity in the off-season and should likely garner close to MLE or more.
And as I stated in a previous post, he's a restricted FA. Restricted FAs usually get deals over what they're worth to discourage the main team from matching the offer.
Finally, Pietrus has the option to sign a one-year deal for the amount you mentioned and then enter unrestricted FA in the 08 season....this is honestly the only scenario I see that the Spurs could get him.
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Well then hopefully he starts to suck after beating the Mavs.
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Re: mickael pietrus has got to be got
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Originally Posted by PHAT TONY
Sorry, but Pietrus won't be had for $3M per year.
With the way he's playing in these playoffs, he'll be a hot commodity in the off-season and should likely garner close to MLE or more.
And as I stated in a previous post, he's a restricted FA. Restricted FAs usually get deals over what they're worth to discourage the main team from matching the offer.
Finally, Pietrus has the option to sign a one-year deal for the amount you mentioned and then enter unrestricted FA in the 08 season....this is honestly the only scenario I see that the Spurs could get him.
game 1: 2 pts, 3 rbs, 16 minutes.
game 2: 4 pts, 1 rb, 17 minutes.
game 3: 1 pt, 5 rb, 3 to, 20 minutes.
game 4: 16 pts, 5 rbs, 27 minutes.
These #'s in no way make him a hot commodity. Yes, I do like pietrus and yes I would for him to be a spur, but in no way is he playing himself to a bigger contract than his current 2.5 million contract he has right now. Best case scenario is warriors eliminate mavericks and pietrus continues to struggle with his shot.
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What about Turiaf? Phil is giving him much run in the playoffs
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/ronny_...ame_stats.html
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Man, are we watching the same games? He played alright yesterday, but the guy is an absolute foul machine, cant shoot, is undersized even for his position, and doesnt seem to have much recognition of what is going on the floor. I saw him step out of bounds twice in the same game trying to drive the ball. I think all this Pietrus love is getting blown out of proportion. I would much rather go after Barnes
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Re: mickael pietrus has got to be got
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Originally Posted by yavozerb
game 1: 2 pts, 3 rbs, 16 minutes.
game 2: 4 pts, 1 rb, 17 minutes.
game 3: 1 pt, 5 rb, 3 to, 20 minutes.
game 4: 16 pts, 5 rbs, 27 minutes.
These #'s in no way make him a hot commodity. Yes, I do like pietrus and yes I would for him to be a spur, but in no way is he playing himself to a bigger contract than his current 2.5 million contract he has right now. Best case scenario is warriors eliminate mavericks and pietrus continues to struggle with his shot.
Hear, hear. One breakout game in a series where he's been a non-factor.
In many ways he replicates Bowen's skills: corner 3-pt. shooter, few handles, defense-minded. He's worth a look, but he'll not be high on anybody's list in comparison to what SFs are on the market.
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This would be a nice back up for manu next year at SG while finley can back up bowen SF. We still would have room to bring in a young SF or SG this draft.
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Re: mickael pietrus has got to be got
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Originally Posted by Mr. Body
Hear, hear. One breakout game in a series where he's been a non-factor.
In many ways he replicates Bowen's skills: corner 3-pt. shooter, few handles, defense-minded. He's worth a look, but he'll not be high on anybody's list in comparison to what SFs are on the market.
Ya never know. There are some GMs out there with itchy trigger fingers and full checkbooks. I agree with your assessment of his skills and like him as a potential fit for the Spurs. I wouldn't break the bank to get him, though.
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If it came down to nocioni or peitrus (which lately are the names being mentioned on this site) I would prefer pietrus only because he would cost the spurs 3+ million less and he is 3 years younger.
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Nocioni has become untouchable for Spurs. He will get $$, he is the 2nd best player in the Bulls at times, and he is clutchness
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Why are we pretending we can get this guy again?
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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
Why are we pretending we can get this guy again?
WHO?
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Anyone mentioned in this thread, pretty much.
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Re: mickael pietrus has got to be got
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Originally Posted by yavozerb
game 1: 2 pts, 3 rbs, 16 minutes.
game 2: 4 pts, 1 rb, 17 minutes.
game 3: 1 pt, 5 rb, 3 to, 20 minutes.
game 4: 16 pts, 5 rbs, 27 minutes.
These #'s in no way make him a hot commodity. Yes, I do like pietrus and yes I would for him to be a spur, but in no way is he playing himself to a bigger contract than his current 2.5 million contract he has right now. Best case scenario is warriors eliminate mavericks and pietrus continues to struggle with his shot.
Uhhh..yes he is playing himself into more money. Someone is going to offer the MLE or close to it or the Warriors are going to sign him to an extension. The Spurs were interested in drafting him, but were unable to. I can see the Spurs giving him a hard look this summer. Wishful thinking, but here's who I think the Spurs should go after.
S&T for Nocioni, involving Barry, Scola & picks.
$4 of the $6 mil out of the MLE for Pietrus & the other $2 mil for a project SF like Korolev from the Clipps.
Trade for Khrypa & Duhon from the Bulls for Barry, Butler, Beno, picks or some combo of them.
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Pietrus is within range, without a doubt.
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Re: mickael pietrus has got to be got
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Originally Posted by Big P
Uhhh..yes he is playing himself into more money. Someone is going to offer the MLE or close to it or the Warriors are going to sign him to an extension. The Spurs were interested in drafting him, but were unable to. I can see the Spurs giving him a hard look this summer. Wishful thinking, but here's who I think the Spurs should go after.
S&T for Nocioni, involving Barry, Scola & picks.
$4 of the $6 mil out of the MLE for Pietrus & the other $2 mil for a project SF like Korolev from the Clipps.
Trade for Khrypa & Duhon from the Bulls for Barry, Butler, Beno, picks or some combo of them.
Is that all??
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Re: mickael pietrus has got to be got
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Originally Posted by yavozerb
If it came down to nocioni or peitrus (which lately are the names being mentioned on this site) I would prefer pietrus only because he would cost the spurs 3+ million less and he is 3 years younger.
Thats just crazy. If we could get Noc, we should do whatever it takes to get him.
"Nocioni has become untouchable for Spurs. He will get $$, he is the 2nd best player in the Bulls at times, and he is clutchness"
Not true. While it might seem impossible now because of the way he is playing, Chicago is going to have to make some decisions about their cap & future cap. The main things they need to do is sign Deng & Gordon to extensions. Both of these will be very costly, Gordon will command upwards of $50 mil or more, while Deng is on track for a max extension or at least $70 mil. Add in the fact that in the near future they are going to need to sigh Thomas & Sefolosha, & signing Noc to a big extension this summer could be very costly to them. Noc plays the same positon as Deng & Thomas plays a lot of SF as well. I see the Bulls matching any MLE deal for Noc, but if someone comes in with say $7-8 mil for him, thye might be willing to trade him for expirings like Barry & Beno, possibly Butler plus Scola. This way they preserve future cap space, get a decent cheap young prospect at center & get the low post scorer they need in Scola. I'm not saying that it will definitly happen, but the Bulls locking up Noc long term is not a given. The Chicago Tribune evne ran an article last week saying that it was %50/50 the Bulls would S&T nocioni next year, not because they want to, but because they might have to.
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IMO Bulls should let go of Gordon, before Nocioni.
Gordon is a ballhog and chucker like Arenas,AI,etc
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Re: mickael pietrus has got to be got
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Originally Posted by yavozerb
Is that all??
What else do you want? These are realisitc options going into next year. Our biggest need is at SF, signing Nocioni or Pietrus would fulfill that. What do you want me to say, the Spurs should go S&T for Garnett?
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Re: mickael pietrus has got to be got
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Originally Posted by hater
IMO Bulls should let go of Gordon, before Nocioni.
Gordon is a ballhog and chucker like Arenas,AI,etc
I dont know about that. With Deng, they are going to have the SF spot covered. Ben shoots almost %46 fg, %41 from 3 & %85 FT, they would really miss his scoring & playmaking ability if they chose Noc over Gordon. It is possible they keep Noc over Gordon, but unlikely if they had to make a choice, which they will this summer.
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I think he has a good attitude too, him and Ellis are about the only good examples from that Warriors team. :dizzy
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Re: mickael pietrus has got to be got
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Originally Posted by yavozerb
game 1: 2 pts, 3 rbs, 16 minutes.
game 2: 4 pts, 1 rb, 17 minutes.
game 3: 1 pt, 5 rb, 3 to, 20 minutes.
game 4: 16 pts, 5 rbs, 27 minutes.
These #'s in no way make him a hot commodity. Yes, I do like pietrus and yes I would for him to be a spur, but in no way is he playing himself to a bigger contract than his current 2.5 million contract he has right now. Best case scenario is warriors eliminate mavericks and pietrus continues to struggle with his shot.
Pietrus was giving very productive and consistent minutes as a regular part of the rotation before the trade that brought Jackson and Harrington. As you can see with the 27 minute performance, Pietrus can be a very good player if given the extended opportunity.
GMs will no doubt take a look at his play prior to SJax coming on board, and whether it's one game or not, teams will remember his solid play in game 4 against the Mavs before offering him a contract.
And I'll reiterate....
Pietrus has a one-year $3M qualifying offer on the table, so why would he take a multi-year deal for less than that....and why wouldn't the Warriors match that deal if Pietrus was stupid enough to sign it?
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Re: mickael pietrus has got to be got
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Originally Posted by Big P
What else do you want? These are realisitc options going into next year. Our biggest need is at SF, signing Nocioni or Pietrus would fulfill that. What do you want me to say, the Spurs should go S&T for Garnett?
I dont think they need do go after any sf in free agency. I would like them to see what they have in the future of White, and they could always draft someone to fill that position. Dont know why they would have to go outside of those options