Well, its 1.5 million less what the spurs spent on barry..I see this as an improvement..Barnes sucks!!
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Well, its 1.5 million less what the spurs spent on barry..I see this as an improvement..Barnes sucks!!
I see it as utterly ridiculous.
What is the team need that is met here?
A shorter, worse-defending Bruce Bowen?
I like Pietrus and I think he would develop very well here, if it's possible to get him. Was anybody out there stoked in 2001 about the Bruce Bowen signing? The Spurs have fantastic coaches and if they think Pietrus has potential that isn't being realized in Don Nelson's system but would be in SA then I have no doubt that they could get the most out of him.
Isn't he the guy that was on Parker's show a few weeks back? He mentioned something about keeping the possibility of playing for the Spurs open, or would like to play here?
Not saying I'd wnt him, just wondering if it was Pietrus.
More like relieved. He was pretty much the only SF available.Quote:
Was anybody out there stoked in 2001 about the Bruce Bowen signing?
In this case, we already have Bruce and a cheap potential replacement, to say nothing of the gaping holes at other positions.
Do you really believe there well be another defender as good as Bowen to come along anytime soon? Shorter, yes, but able to rebound better and a good defender none the less..Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
With Finely, Barry & Bowen all going within the next year, I think getting a player like Pietrus serves a very good purpose. And if you are referring to James White as Bowens replacement, there is no way you have seen enough of him to label him as a "cheap Bowen replacement". I want to see White on this team, but I dont think he is going to be that much of an impact player in the next 2 years.
Not worth spending the only $4 million we'll have this summer, that's for sure.
The MLE will be more like $6 mil not $4 mil this summer..and who do you suggest we go after with our MLE if not Nocioni & Pietrus?
Bruce is like 90 and Pietrus/Noccioni >>>>>>>>> FlightQuote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
A big man who can get more than three boards a game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Big P
This fixation on Pietrus is kind of weird. Like this series is the only non-Spur basketball anyone has seen this season. If he's such hot shit, Golden State keeps him. Pretty simple.
no because golden state do not have the money either
Their cap situation is almost identical to ours and they can match any offer on Pietrus without using their MLE.
Well if the Spurs are not able to get Pietrus, Barnes might be a "cheap" alternative. I don't see a lot good SF's out there for a reasonable contract.
I don't see another small-small forward as THE pressing need for next season above rebounding and backup point.
I also don't see the need in tying up half the MLE for a week when Golden State would likely match it easily.
Buying high isn't always a super great idea either.
@chump: I agree. A PG is also a big need. How much do you think Brevin Knight would be and how he would fit the Spurs? I think he would be an ideal backup PG for the Spurs.
I also hope that Butler will turn out to be what we hoped for and help with the rebounding problem. He had 10 and 9 rebounds in the last 2 regseason games (against teams who rested their players but still nearly a double double each game).
We'd have to see if Charlotte picks up Knight's option. Even then he's clearly starting quality, so it might be tough to sign him as a backup for backup money. He's be a great fit though.
I haven't taken a good enough look at the available playoffs this summer, but Pietrus just seems like a nonstarter.
I think Jackie Butler will be part of the rotation next year, as long as he keeps up his conditioning over summer, and I'm sure that is the carrot they are dangling to keep him working hard. Pop never plays new players much in their first year here (Elson an obvious exception) because they have to learn the system. And Bonner will take over Horry's big man outside shooting and hustle role (and we will miss Horry in the playoffs!).
That leaves us backup PG and SF. I think they'll draft our future SF (we have 4 picks plus rights to Scola to move up with), and fill holes with the MLE, probably get a backup point for small money and not use it all as we're close to the luxtax threshold already.
Is Vaughn signed for next year? He's done okay to fill another year.
I'd love Nocioni, but how the hell do we get him? No way Chicago let him walk given the core they've built. They're ready to contend.
Walter Hermann, now there's an intriguing idea...
I'm not sure a carrot will do it. May need to try a pizza. :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by RuffnReadyOzStyle
Where exactly are you gonna get that? We've been trying, they're all the same..... If we really were paying attention, we would have tried to scoop Tyson Chandler before the Hornets got him.... He was showing signs...Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
Any good big man there is, is gonna cost more than we've got, I'll tell you that, that's why we get Nazr's and Elson's. Chandler would have been perfect since he was a buy low guy with super high potential
Even a Chris Wilcox woulda been nice
Just runnin options in my head, but what yall think about Sam Dalembert? Think we could steal him away from Philly? He'd have huge potential with us, imo... long, great rebounder and shot blocker, still young...
[email protected] per, no way, couldn't afford him anyway.
I don't know why people doubt Jackie. Yes, he's a big guy, but he's slimmed down a lot and most of that size is muscle now. He has nice touch, he can rebound, and he's had a year in the system. We signed him for 3 yrs, and I'll be surprised if he's not a significant role player next year, maybe even more the year after. It all depends on his desire, because he has the tools.
11mil.... Damn! Didn't know that, it'd still be nice if we could scoop him if there was any way to do it. When's he gonna be a free agent?Quote:
Originally Posted by RuffnReadyOzStyle
and I don't doubt at all that Butler can be a significant role player next year, or in the years to come... but the keyword there is role player.... I don't see him bein somebody that's gonna be an impact starter, at least not yet, you know?
If that was directed toward my pizza comment, I actually am with you on Jackie. I am hoping the best for the guy and that he does break out in the summer leagues. It was just to easy of set up to pass up the wisecrack. :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by RuffnReadyOzStyle
I guess that's the luxury of having the two-time MVP and three-time Finals MVP on your team....you can afford to have role players with the potential to grow into legitimate impact starters. I think it's clear that Elson, Oberto, Horry, and Bonner are of the role-player variety, but Butler is different....Quote:
Originally Posted by Dro210
Butler has youth (22yrs old), decent athleticism, great size, better low post skills than anyone on the team not named Duncan, and most of all....potential to take his game to the next level.
What Butler needs is the opportunity....
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Originally Posted by PHAT TONY
Yep, and what a great luxury it is.... Bein able to sit a guy like Horry for almost the whole year and bring him out in the playoffs.... Doesn't get any better.
Don't get me wrong, if you were thinking I was hating on Butler, I wasn't.... I've got high hopes for him too, he's got the potential. I'm just sayin, he's not such a stud that he's gonna just step in next year and be the answer to all our problems right away...