All BS aside, would you really want SJax back?

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Originally Posted by bdictjames

Yes. I think he didnt do anything bad when he was with the Spurs.

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You guys have got to remember that was the year SA was supposedly going to sign Jason Kidd to this huge contract. If not Kidd it was supposed to be Jermaine O' Neal. The word around the camp fire was that Kidd was almost a lock to become a Spur. Had it not been for Parker crying to Pop I guess about losing his spot Kidd would have been a Spur. Kidd wasn't looking for any unnecessary headaches since he already had it good in NJ. But I can't remember if Stephen Jacko left before, or after Kidd shunned us?

hell yes. i could give a shit about what he does off the court.

Did SJax appear to get along with all his teammates while in San Antonio. It might be hard to judge as everyone seems to get along when you win the title. Just curious if anyone has any knowledge and/or opinion on this. I found it quite interesting watching the celebrating going on last night on GState sidelines. All the players were giving genuine hugs to each other and when they approached SJax they would give him a hug but you could tell it was different (almost uncomfortable).

I think he's a good player but he isn't going to keep up this pace over the course of the next 5 years. There are going to be other players with his type of talent and a third of the thug shit he brings to the table. Enjoy watching him now because I don't see this guy getting major minutes a few years from.

Davis has done the right thing with Jax and the rest of the team by empowering them to succeed. Jax responds well to getting sucked off and Baron has done this perfectly. A true testament to Barons leadership.

His game seems to blend better with GS's style. I'm glad the Spurs passed on this one.

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Originally Posted by BacktoBasics

I think he's a good player but he isn't going to keep up this pace over the course of the next 5 years. There are going to be other players with his type of talent and a third of the thug shit he brings to the table. Enjoy watching him now because I don't see this guy getting major minutes a few years from.

Davis has done the right thing with Jax and the rest of the team by empowering them to succeed. Jax responds well to getting sucked off and Baron has done this perfectly. A true testament to Barons leadership.

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I totally agree with this. Davis must be a sharp dude.

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Originally Posted by mabber

when they approached SJax they would give him a hug but you could tell it was different (almost uncomfortable).

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I noticed that too.

Weren't we willing to part with him as well due to the fact that we were "supposed" to be getting either Kidd or O'Neal that year? We were going to have crap loads of cap room with David retiring and we were gunning for a big time FA that year. I thought that was one of the other reasons we were willing to part with Jacko so easily. I liked his intensity too.

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Originally Posted by mabber

I totally agree with this. Davis must be a sharp dude.

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I've never thought of Davis as anything more than a star player who could run a good statline from time to time but after watching this series I think he's underrated and definately underrated as far a team leader goes. Hopefully he can find a way to stay healthy rather than slip through the cracks.

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Originally Posted by mabber

Did SJax appear to get along with all his teammates while in San Antonio. It might be hard to judge as everyone seems to get along when you win the title. Just curious if anyone has any knowledge and/or opinion on this. I found it quite interesting watching the celebrating going on last night on GState sidelines. All the players were giving genuine hugs to each other and when they approached SJax they would give him a hug but you could tell it was different (almost uncomfortable).

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I didn't notice that at all. His hugs with Baron/Barnes (which were the only ones I really remember) seemed like regular celebration hugs.

He got along really well with everyone here - particularly Tim and Malik.

What makes us think he'd be as effective in our system as in the Warriors bizarrely frenetic style of play?

The Spurs run a set offense. Parker looks for penetration, then passes it to Finley, who shoots a trey if he's open or drops it down low to Duncan in the post. Duncan sucks the defense in, and kicks it to Manu. Something like that.

The Warriors don't have an offense that I could ever hope to describe by Xs and Os. Jax might have sank the Mavs, but I seriously doubt having Buckets go 7-7 from downtown was in the gameplan. He might have started 3-3 from outside the arc, but he was 0-7 inside of it, and I'm not sure he stays on the court with a 3-10 shooting percentage and Pop's tendency for the quick hook.

The bottom line is that Jax is a great competitor, but not a smart basketball player. He and the Warriors won this series with pure emotion and determination. That's fine, but historically playing smart wins more 'Ships. Even Robert Horry, our assassin, simply drops a series-turning 3 on an opponent and then calmly walks off the court. The Spurs are cold-blooded and lethal that way, but they're pretty damned consistent, too. They are as likely to out-think a team -- as we just saw with the Nuggets -- as overpower them.

Jax just doesn't fit as well. He'd be a nice addition to the lineup, but not at the cost of a Manu or a Parker.

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Originally Posted by Kori Ellis

I didn't notice that at all. His hugs with Baron/Barnes (which were the only ones I really remember) seemed like regular celebration hugs.
He got along really well with everyone here - particularly Tim and Malik.

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Well it wasn't anything I was looking for, just something I noticed. I don't recall which particular players it was with but there were a few uncomfortable looking embraces. Apparently, someone else on here noticed it as well. No big deal.

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Originally Posted by mabber

Well it wasn't anything I was looking for, just something I noticed. I don't recall which particular players it was with but there were a few uncomfortable looking embraces. Apparently, someone else on here noticed it as well. No big deal.

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If you saw the same thing I did, I notice a slight pause when he was approached for a hug. Just like if the guy(Barnes?) thought "should I hug him?" It's nothing big, just something I noticed.

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Originally Posted by Cry Havoc

... He'd be a nice addition to the lineup, but not at the cost of a Manu or a Parker.

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I don't see why everyone thinks he would have cost Manu or Parker. He would just be making Brent Barry's money.

I think his stay in SA probably would have ended like Malik Rose's. He wouldn't have done anything near as bad as in Indiana but he would have found a way to get in Pop's doghouse.

Well do you prefer Jackson to Manu because Jackson can not play like he did last night and still have Manu getting the minutes he gets and doing what he does.

In a heart beat. he was a bit wild, but was controllable under our system. Without him, we don't win the 03 trophy.

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Originally Posted by florige

Weren't we willing to part with him as well due to the fact that we were "supposed" to be getting either Kidd or O'Neal that year? We were going to have crap loads of cap room with David retiring and we were gunning for a big time FA that year. I thought that was one of the other reasons we were willing to part with Jacko so easily. I liked his intensity too.

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I thought I had deleted the thread while trying to edit it or something. Didn't know it had been merged in with the Jackson thread. Sorry..

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I seem to recall that the Spurs offered him $10 Mil over 3 years to stay. He turned it down for, I believe, 1 mill for a year in Atlanta.

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The Spurs pulled the contract after a week and chose to 'go another direction', gee, Spur fans have short memories when it comes to front-office fuck-ups.

Im not sure, yeah he is a different player than he was, but he takes too many crazy shots and is more of a thug. Granted pop would put him in check, but I guess I wouldnt mind if we didnt lose anything.

Nah, he sucks.

I would take him back in a second! He brought that fire and passion that I'm worried the spurs are lacking now.

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Originally Posted by BacktoBasics

I think he's a good player but he isn't going to keep up this pace over the course of the next 5 years. There are going to be other players with his type of talent and a third of the thug shit he brings to the table. Enjoy watching him now because I don't see this guy getting major minutes a few years from.

Davis has done the right thing with Jax and the rest of the team by empowering them to succeed. Jax responds well to getting sucked off and Baron has done this perfectly. A true testament to Barons leadership.

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It's not just "talent" that JAX brings to the table; he is a cold blooded assasain with no fear. He has ice in his veins. That is a trait that doesn't come along too often - see dirk. He's long, tough defensively, has a good stroke, no fear, and lives to take the big shot. If we had resigned him, we would have won in 06.

His Defense on Dirk really impressed me, if we have him last year we beat the mavs.

Some interesting versions of history in this thread.

I didn't realized we "passed" on Kidd because of Tony's crying.

As I remember Jax passed on a Spurs offer that was widely considered as reasonable/good (even by some of his biggest fans on this board). He felt disrespected and thought he could get more elsewhere - he did after a year, so I guess he was right.

I don't believe that what a player does off the court has no influence on how he plays on the court. It would be nice if they could keep it separate and isolated, but in real life it's not how it works. As much as I enjoyed watching him kill the Mavs, the answer is still no, I don't want him back. In my opinion he would become an issue in San Antonio and that would disrupt the team. I feel that his negatives still outweigh his (many) positives.