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if our center plays half or a little bit of AK47 or Rasheed we won't be in a dilemma right now :oops Duncan is in foul trouble bec he has to take good care of Amare and the scoring as well. Elson can't even contribute and help in rebounds dept:cryQuote:
Francisco Elson
Elson came off the bench and looked a little more comfortable than usual. He had a dunk, rebound and a steal in five minutes.
Grade: B+
its tied two two.
Quit the bitching.
Last year we had a worse of a chance to win it.
Horry hit Nash too hard because the refs didn't call the attempt by Manu to touch foul him in an obvious fouling situation. Failing to call the touch foul was the only really bad decision by the refs in the game IMO. Nash, for reasons that remain a total fucking mystery in that situation, flailed to accentuate the already hard contact and pinballed into the table. It was bad juju all around, and will probably end up marring what should have ended up a pretty good series.Quote:
Originally Posted by RonMexico
The point is winning. This series could easily be over. Now they play a best of three series with two games in Phoenix.Quote:
Originally Posted by gtownspur
If they lose the series, it'll be a shame of epic proportions.
All excellent points, although actually I had almost forgotten Elson played. I agree completely with the points made about Barry, Vaughn, Horry, and Pop in particular. I had forgotten about the timeout situation but that was definitely a huge mistake. I also hated that Finley fadeaway.
It was very dispiriting to see the team play so poorly down the stretch.
Mostly agree with the grades. Think maybe Barry deserved another A+, or at least an A. Once again as soon as he entered the game the Spurs offense started firing on all cylinders and put up some nice runs. He hit a couple of big shots, was very active on the defensive end and looked as comfortable on the floor as I've seen him in a long time with the Spurs. It's just too bad the Spurs seem to have a hard time squeezing in minutes for him since this is his series. The Spurs should consider running the offense through him for (more/longer) stretches. His motion offensive style just absolutely picks the Suns apart.
Yep. This will be the year of missed opportunities. It was all there served up for them and they choked it away.Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
Funny that the discussion today was of everyone so gleeful over the "dirty" label rather than the "soft" label. Looks like they were a bit of both today.
i definitely agree that pop shouldn't put tim on the bench with his 5th foul
the fans shld have been give an A for wearing a dab of black under their left eyes in support of Ginobili in game 4 :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by timvp
I don't know if he flailed that much... For his thin frame, Horry is probably built pretty well when you hit him running at a good rate of speed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Obstructed_View
I thought it was Finley who tried to get the touch foul, not Manu, but I could be wrong. I was already upset about that non-call because I was waiting for Bennett Salvatore to come out and call a jump ball on the sideline.
What about Nash going 2-4 on FTs too? Must have been a little woozy... (I hope).
What a stupid fucking play by Horry. He'll be suspended for game 5, and he deserves it. I'm really disappointed in the whole team's inability to do anything once Phoenix started running hard double teams at Duncan late. The Suns made plays when it counted, and the Spurs rolled over and died. If they come out like this Wednesday, we're going to see a repeat of game 2.
I think the double team on duncan surprised the spurs tonight
suns had not done that had not done it early
good move by the suns coaching staff
Funny that Duncan wouldn't be expecting it, since it's been used to beat him in the past.Quote:
Originally Posted by ducks
Duncan choked on the doubles because he got too used to being single covered. It was a good move by D'antoni because it worked.
How about Nash holding out two hands to block two spurs to free up a teammate for a shot? How about Nash flying into the hoop and Duncan doesn't touch him but gets called for a foul. How about Duncan getting called for charge on Nash. How about Raja hitting Oberto without a call. How about Raja's flops? How about Nash tripping overhimself and losing the Ball but Bowen gets called for a foul? How about Parker going to the rim a few times and gets contact without fouls? How about Barbosa going at Parker, then leaning in at 70 degrees to make sure his body hit Parker and Parker gets called for a foul? How about Nash running into Ginobilli, throwing him off balance, allowing Raja to go to the hoop for an easy layup (shifting momentum at the end). So many to list.... ohh yeah let's not forget the non calls when ppl guard Duncan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Obstructed_View
Shut up you fucking pussy. Go root for the Mavs. Take that lame shit somewhere else. Theres a blogger who roots for the Suns somewhere. The two of you are made for each other.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kobulingam
Their complain works ,the Officials are stupid
We fucking had this game. I'm pissed too.
We have no X Factor.
I thought last year was disillusioning. Hard to feel optimistic after this game. Phoenix came out looking like a championship contender, while we gave up a lot of momentum, poise and class. This was one of the most depressing losses in recent memory.
If we fail in this series, we'll look on this as another example of how a title run can be derailed in a few moments.
Still shaking my head at Pop's decision making, which frankly showed rank incompetance. Un-freaking-believeable.
Couldn't agree more!Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
The forum yesterday was out of control and I just had to stop reading it - the thread about the Jazz vs. Warriors was the one that made me leave the forum for the rest of the day.
This was one of the few games I got to watch live this season and you can imagine how glad I am that I woke up at 3 am to watch it! :madrun
If Kori says that she hasn't seen you this mad, I'm not going to argue with her, but believe me, people around me better watch out today I could easily bite off some heads as the day progress...
Just for the sake of discussion, why is the word "believe" bandied about while at the same time people bitch about overconfidence? It's not like the players are reading the message boards, and it's certainly not the fans' fault that the team chokes.
How was Beno tonight? TO and missed shots?
Because there's a huge difference between believing your team can win and being overconfident that the opponent has no shot to win.Quote:
Originally Posted by Obstructed_View
You took it easy on Pop...seriously, his substitutions were godawful.
Honestly, this was a failure by all the people that should have played good...
Pop
Duncan
Manu
Tony
Horry
That Finley missed(2) shots with less that 5 minutes to go did not surprise me in the slightest, like I said on the day we signed him, he's just good enough to be on the court to let you down when it matters most...
We became stupider than Dallas when they realized that and we didn't.
Tony, Manu, Tim and Finley all started playing selfish basketball at the end of the game, one on one, no ball movement, forcing shots up over multiple defenders(Manu and Tony were really bad about it).
Barry could have saved this game tonight without hitting a 3 just because he always looks for the open man...always....honestly, he's about the only guy on the team that consistently gets Duncan an easy basket. And I'm betting he got pulled for that no look to Duncan.
Tony and Manu , once they drive in crunch time in this series, they hardly ever pass out, and if they do it's usually a shitty pass.
Parker is just at Superstar level...but he's got to learn to not force it under the basket.
Oh and..for the love of god...why in the fuck is Bruce on Nash when he isn't coming close to stopping him?
Parker is doing a better job on Nash...we are wasting Bruce on him...it's not working in our favor, Nash starts playing better when Bruce gets on him.
Oh...and those refs fucked us...