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Re: Amare and Boris Suspended 1 Game - Horry 2 Games
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Originally Posted by diego
There is some consolation: even if these suspensions didnt happen, suns fans would have blamed the refs anyway.
But only if they lost. Nobody complained about the officiating last night, it was just great clutch performances by the Suns to overcome the NBA's grudge against them.
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Re: Amare and Boris Suspended 1 Game - Horry 2 Games
If Amare hadn't stepped over the coaches 'box' he wouldn't have been suspended.
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Re: Amare and Boris Suspended 1 Game - Horry 2 Games
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Originally Posted by Obstructed_View
But only if they lost. Nobody complained about the officiating last night, it was just great clutch performances by the Suns to overcome the NBA's grudge against them.
Exactly
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Re: Amare and Boris Suspended 1 Game - Horry 2 Games
that goes without saying!
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Re: Amare and Boris Suspended 1 Game - Horry 2 Games
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Originally Posted by L.I.T
If Amare hadn't stepped over the coaches 'box' he wouldn't have been suspended.
If Amare hadn't burst out from behind the rest of the team and bolted in Horry's direction he might not have been suspended.
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Re: Amare and Boris Suspended 1 Game - Horry 2 Games
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Originally Posted by Obstructed_View
I'm lost. Why would you feel bad for Phoenix when Robert Horry got an ejection plus a two game suspension for the exact same level foul that got Baron Davis no ejection and no suspsension?
I feel bad only in the sense that should the Spurs go on to win this series, this ruling will be thrown in their face.
But -- you do make a good point in that Robert should have been granted a 1-game suspension vice 2 games.
So this could haunt the Spurs in game 6.
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Re: Amare and Boris Suspended 1 Game - Horry 2 Games
I need to get me an Horry jersey now!!!
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Re: Amare and Boris Suspended 1 Game - Horry 2 Games
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Originally Posted by Obstructed_View
The spirit of a "zero tolerance" rule is exactly the same as the letter of a "zero tolerance" rule. I'm not sure why you are having such a tough time with it. The league office has been remarkably consistent about things like this. The amendment "in the vicinity of the bench" was added because Patrick Ewing stood up and his toes were over the line. Everybody knew he wasn't heading toward the altercation, but he was suspended nevertheless. The rule was changed over the summer so that there was some room for interpretation. Amare could not be construed as just standing up, since he was past D'Antoni and Nash almost immediately. There's no way to justify what he did by either the spirit or the letter of the law. There just isn't. You are searching for mitigating circumstances. There aren't different degrees of leaving the bench; he didn't commit justifiable bench-leaving in the second degree while under emotional duress being unable to judge right from wrong. You don't have to hear exactly what they were discussing but you need only look at history to see how they were going to react, and that's exactly how they reacted.
This is certainly incorrect. I already stated that I understood the precedence so please stop repeating yourself with so many words. There really is no point in arguing with someone who is hellbent on a literalist interpretation, same reason I don't argue with people who take the second amendment literally and outside of the context for which it was written. When you say there is room for interpretation and then proceed to shut the door for any possibility of interpretation in this instance, nevermind that the league has never specifically defined what "vicinity of the bench" entails, you are contradicting yourself. I'm going to go watch the rest of the games tonight, good luck tomorrow Suns.
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Re: Amare and Boris Suspended 1 Game - Horry 2 Games
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Originally Posted by Obstructed_View
Nobody complained about the officiating last night
Come on man, there were and still are a ton of complaints about the officiating.
There are implications in this very thread that the suspensions to Stoudemire and Diaw are Karmic in nature due to the bad officiating last night.
Maybe not from you, but a LOT of Spurs fans on this board thought the Suns were handed the game.
*Edit* Sorry, I mis-read your reply.
No, the Suns fans didn't complain, but isn't that the way it usually goes?
Face it, the officiating was bad all the way round.
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Re: Amare and Boris Suspended 1 Game - Horry 2 Games
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Originally Posted by Obstructed_View
But only if they lost. Nobody complained about the officiating last night, it was just great clutch performances by the Suns to overcome the NBA's grudge against them.
:lol @ Nobody complained about the officiating. I had to merge eight threads complaining about it right after the game.
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Re: Amare and Boris Suspended 1 Game - Horry 2 Games
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Originally Posted by ponky
This is certainly incorrect. I already stated that I understood the precedence so please stop repeating yourself with so many words. There really is no point in arguing with someone who is hellbent on a literalist interpretation, same reason I don't argue with people who take the second amendment literally and outside of the context for which it was written. When you say there is room for interpretation and then proceed to shut the door for any possibility of interpretation in this instance, nevermind that the league has never specifically defined what "vicinity of the bench" entails, you are contradicting yourself. I'm going to go watch the rest of the games tonight, good luck tomorrow Suns.
Goddamn you're stupid. Patrick Ewing got suspended for standing up. Amare did a fucking hell of a lot more than just stand up. Again, what fucking part of that don't you understand, idiot?
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Re: Amare and Boris Suspended 1 Game - Horry 2 Games
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Originally Posted by Obstructed_View
If Amare hadn't burst out from behind the rest of the team and bolted in Horry's direction he might not have been suspended.
I think the clincher was his expression..."Holy shit! I want me some Horry!!"
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Re: Amare and Boris Suspended 1 Game - Horry 2 Games
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Originally Posted by Kori Ellis
:lol @ Nobody complained about the officiating. I had to merge eight threads complaining about it right after the game.
Please read who my original post was referencing, or show me where the Suns fans complained about the officiating. My contention is that they complained about the officials screwing them, but only when they lost. I have just as little patience for the Spurs fans on this board that do the same thing game in and game out.
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Re: Amare and Boris Suspended 1 Game - Horry 2 Games
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Originally Posted by DePastino
Come on man, there were and still are a ton of complaints about the officiating.
There are implications in this very thread that the suspensions to Stoudemire and Diaw are Karmic in nature due to the bad officiating last night.
Maybe not from you, but a LOT of Spurs fans on this board thought the Suns were handed the game.
*Edit* Sorry, I mis-read your reply.
No, the Suns fans didn't complain, but isn't that the way it usually goes?
Face it, the officiating was bad all the way round.
the SPurs gave that game to the Suns, they played like garbage at the end of the game. But you have to understand, when people see that the road team shot more than twice the amount of fts as the home team of coarse some fans are going to bitch, warranted or not
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Re: Amare and Boris Suspended 1 Game - Horry 2 Games
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Originally Posted by Scumbag
You really are soooo TOUGH! Here here here! Take my wallet!
:lmao
"Internet Tough Guy"
It would make a great SNL skit. The possibilities...
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Re: Amare and Boris Suspended 1 Game - Horry 2 Games
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Originally Posted by Louie Vega
I need to get me an Horry jersey now!!!
make sure you wear it to phx :makemyday
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Re: Amare and Boris Suspended 1 Game - Horry 2 Games
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Originally Posted by Obstructed_View
Please read who my original post was referencing, or show me where the Suns fans complained about the officiating. My contention is that they complained about the officials screwing them, but only when they lost. I have just as little patience for the Spurs fans on this board that do the same thing game in and game out.
i wrote the original post, and i agreed as if the suns didnt complain when they won. but in actuality my friend we are wrong, because they complained win or lose, every game!
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Re: Suns are going be DANGEROUSLY MOTIVATED for GM5 because of this suspension
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Originally Posted by Spurs Dynasty 21
Ithe Spurs better play the best game of this series to have a chance
The Suns will be all fired up; best use this chance to take momentum.
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Re: Amare and Boris Suspended 1 Game - Horry 2 Games
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Originally Posted by UV Ray
:lmao
"Internet Tough Guy"
It would make a great SNL skit. The possibilities...
That, or a "Real Men of Genius" commercial.
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Re: Amare and Boris Suspended 1 Game - Horry 2 Games
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Originally Posted by DisgruntledLionFan#54,927
If it is like that, then the NBA is a bigger joke than we all thought.
Hey, they had to try to even it out. Horry will be missed by the Spurs in Game 6, no doubt.
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Re: Amare and Boris Suspended 1 Game - Horry 2 Games
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Originally Posted by Jimcs50
Kori, ordinarily I would agree with you, but I have been watching these Spurs for years and they seem to come up big when they have to(Dallas last year was an exception) I think Spurs will win a squeeker tomorrow and then win by at least 10 in game 6...that is my gut feeling.
I got the first part of the prediction spot on. :smokin Now I need to get the 2nd part right.
:)
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Re: Amare and Boris Suspended 1 Game - Horry 2 Games
I am sick of all this whining by the media. They act like the Spurs are a bunch of terrorists that kidnapped a bus load of school children and drove it into the Grand Canyon.
Was this their fault that dumbass Amare who knew the rules, came off the bench and got suspended ???
Give it a rest!!!
:bang
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Re: Amare and Boris Suspended 1 Game - Horry 2 Games
Bowen is the anti Christ and Horry is one of his evil minions. I have never heard such maliciousness towards a player before. Why do they all say that Bowen should have been suspended for the knee, when Baron Davis' elbow and Moore's flagrant foul was much worse???