Sarver "The team that plays dirty should not be rewarded"

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Why don't you want the Suns to get punished for breaking the rules?

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I do want them to get punished -- I don't see it as a problem to roll it over to 07/08. As a basketball fan, I want to watch two of the three best remaining teams go at it fullstrength.

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Is it because they are playing the Spurs and not the Mavs?

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For what it's worth, I am actually rooting for San Antonio in this series. And this makes it easier for the Spurs to advance. I just wish they had to do it with Phoenix at full-strength. You have little to no margin for error in a series against San Antonio. In a deadlocked series, you can't afford to give the Spurs a game.

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How did they anticipate this scenario?

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When they amended the rule.

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And where did they redraw the line?

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They changed the rule from "stay off the court, period" to "stay in the vicinity of the bench" after Patrick Ewing was suspended for having a foot partially on the court. So they have made their exceptions. The rule will not be rewritten again to allow a player to run 30 feet from the bench. That's stupid.

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Originally Posted by Findog

I do want them to get punished -- I don't see it as a problem to roll it over to 07/08. As a basketball fan, I want to watch two of the three best remaining teams go at it fullstrength.



For what it's worth, I am actually rooting for San Antonio in this series. And this makes it easier for the Spurs to advance. I just wish they had to do it with Phoenix at full-strength. You have little to no margin for error in a series against San Antonio. In a deadlocked series, you can't afford to give the Spurs a game.

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So in your scenario would you postpone all suspensions until the following season for any violation of the rules, or just the "running on the court" rule?

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Originally Posted by Spider TX

No, you moron, every team would have players running up to their fallen guy had this happened to them, it's instinct. The fact that you think that nobody would ever go to him shows how little you know. And this response from you might actually be one of the worst I've ever seen.

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take it from Spurs fans - the Spurs team sees Ginobili get cheap shotted and sprawled out on the court in virtually every game. Yet, not once has a Spurs player gotten up and ran on the court trying to start shit. I think if you really want to look at it, Bell started the confrontation by charging Horry. If he doesn't do that, you probably can't call that a confrontation and nobody would have been suspended.

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Originally Posted by Kevin Blackistone

So in your scenario would you postpone all suspensions until the following season for any violation of the rules, or just the "running on the court" rule?

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If a guy runs out onto the court and lands a punch, even if that guy happens to be your main guy and not a scrub, serve the suspension immediately. If a guy wanders 5 yards out onto the court and does nothing to escalate the situation, then what's the harm in letting him serve his suspension in November?

"Wanders."

Yeah, Amare was just strolling about. He didn't even know there was a game being played.

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Originally Posted by Kevin Blackistone

take it from Spurs fans - the Spurs team sees Ginobili get cheap shotted and sprawled out on the court in virtually every game. Yet, not once has a Spurs player gotten up and ran on the court trying to start shit. I think if you really want to look at it, Bell started the confrontation by charging Horry. If he doesn't do that, you probably can't call that a confrontation and nobody would have been suspended.

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No, not once has a Spurs player ever gotten up because they know Ginobili is really only flopping and acting anyways. Any team he actually gets hit it is very warranted. And we all know TD doesnt have any fight in him anyway, so we would never have to worry about seeing him come off the bench, unless it was to complain with that dumbfounded look about something.

Doctors say you should take a 30 minute constitutional for your health.

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

"Wanders."

Yeah, Amare was just strolling about. He didn't even know there was a game being played.

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He was checking on Nash. And did he do anything to escalate? Nope.

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He was checking on Nash.

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No, you said he was wandering about 5 feet. Why do you have to change your story?

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Originally Posted by Findog

If a guy runs out onto the court and lands a punch, even if that guy happens to be your main guy and not a scrub, serve the suspension immediately. If a guy wanders 5 yards out onto the court and does nothing to escalate the situation, then what's the harm in letting him serve his suspension in November?

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And that's probably what the amended rule will generally say. May not be worded and interpreted exactly like that, but when they redo it, it will most likely be close to this so no other team gets the shaft like the Suns again.

There is no reason to amend the rule further. Players should be less stupid.

I said "wandering" in a response to a hypothetical scenario about how and when I'd punish rules infractions that occur during a playoff series. You attached that phrase to Amare's actions, not me.

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Originally Posted by Findog

I said "wandering" in a response to a hypothetical scenario about how and when I'd punish rules infractions that occur during a playoff series. You attached that phrase to Amare's actions, not me.

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So why bring up that scenario at all if it doesn't apply here?

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

There is no reason to amend the rule further. Players should be less stupid.

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You don't get it though, the rule WILL BE amended, and you can bet anything you own on that fact.

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Originally Posted by Spider TX

No, not once has a Spurs player ever gotten up because they know Ginobili is really only flopping and acting anyways. Any team he actually gets hit it is very warranted.

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So, it's not just "warranted," it's "very warranted." :lol

I think spiders actually have bigger brains than this guy...:lmao

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Originally Posted by Findog

If a guy runs out onto the court and lands a punch, even if that guy happens to be your main guy and not a scrub, serve the suspension immediately. If a guy wanders 5 yards out onto the court and does nothing to escalate the situation, then what's the harm in letting him serve his suspension in November?

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It gets very dangerous (as in to the league's reputation as a fair sporting event) when you start allowing certain suspensions to occur next season but then others have to occur in the playoffs. That's not being fair or consistent, if the violation warrants a suspension it should be served immediately.

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Originally Posted by Spider TX

You don't get it though, the rule WILL BE amended, and you can bet anything you own on that fact.

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I don't think it's Spurs fans having trouble understanding rules.

Nobody cares to go check on a guy when all he is really doing is flopping. They know he's fine and just trying to serve his only purpose.

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

So why bring up that scenario at all if it doesn't apply here?

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Who said it doesn't apply? You're simply picking nits over a word you believe I used to describe Amare's actions. I take it you object to somehow characterizing his actions in leaving the bench as nonchalant, which "wandering" would imply.

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Originally Posted by Spider TX

You don't get it though, the rule WILL BE amended, and you can bet anything you own on that fact.

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Why? What would the wording for that be. There is enough ambiguity in the rule now to actually make exceptions. Amare and Boris simply went far outside that boundary.

So you're new rule will say "Players can run 20 feet onto the floor during an altercation if ____________"

Please fill in the blank for all of us.

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Originally Posted by Spider TX

No, not once has a Spurs player ever gotten up because they know Ginobili is really only flopping and acting anyways. Any team he actually gets hit it is very warranted. And we all know TD doesnt have any fight in him anyway, so we would never have to worry about seeing him come off the bench, unless it was to complain with that dumbfounded look about something.

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HAHA, that's fucking great. TD has no fight in him... damn you are one dumb ass fuck. Wait... Come on, surely you're just a bored ass who's trolling, nobody could be as stupid as you seem.

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Originally Posted by Findog

Who said it doesn't apply?

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Originally Posted by Findog

You attached that phrase to Amare's actions, not me.

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So, now you are attaching that phrase to Amare's actions.

Take a time out and come back when you make up your mind.

So the Suns owner is a whiner too. Anyone surprised?