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that Horry wouldn't have been suspended if Stoudemire and Diaw had kept their asses on the bench? If you look at the other hard shots in the playoffs thus far, none warranted a suspension even though some (especially Baron Davis') seemed to be worse. Is is fair to suspend Horry for a shot that wasn't as flagrant as Davis' just because Stoudemire and Diaw broke a completely separate rule and as such have to sit a game?
of course. Horry was suspended 2 games to appease the Sun fags.
I suspect at worst he would have gotten a big fine or even a 1 game suspension. not 2
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Originally Posted by Kevin Blackistone
His suspension had nothing to do with the league being worried about reaction from Suns and NBA fans. Horry's two-game suspension has done nothing to quiet the mobs of angry people.
Horry was suspended two games because he tacked on a little elbow-to-chin action against Raja Bell. Had that not happened, it would've been the standard 1-game suspension with precedent from Bell-Kobe and Posey-Hinrich.
Had Stoudemire and Diaw not left the bench, it would've have been a one game suspension for Horry.
I agree, plus a one game for Bell for going after Horry and initiating the after play incident.Quote:
Originally Posted by NBA Junkie
They just didn't want to tack on Bell on top of Stoudamire and Diaw.
LOL...hell yea he would've been suspended...
I think you're wrong. Horry didn't go after Nash's head, and he didn't instigate a confrontation. He made the hard shot and started walking away towards his own bench. It was Bell that ran up on him and got the confrontation started. Why was Bell not suspended or even fined? If you look at the other hard shots given in the playoffs thus far, several that were much worse have not warranted a suspension. How does this foul warrant a 2 gamer?Quote:
Originally Posted by PHAT TONY
If you can't handle the truth, get off the board.Quote:
Originally Posted by UV Ray
Bell started the entire confrontation by running up on Horry when he had absoultely nothing to do with the play. Horry acted in self defense at that point. Bell should have been suspended, but not for game 5. His should have been staggered for game 6.Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
I don't disagree with you on Horry's foul, but precedence for a one game suspension had already been set. Go back to Bulls-Heat last year and look at the suspension handed down to James Posey for his "bump" on Kirk Hinrich...it's a similar situation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevin Blackistone
On the elbow, if there's one thing the league doesn't tolerate it's escalation of altercations. Horry may have been run up on, but he didn't respond well....the same way he didn't respond well when attempting to bite Jerry Stackhouse during an altercation last year.
Simply put, he got one game (with precedence set) for the "bump" on Nash and he got one more for escalating the altercation with his elbow. Seems pretty cut and dry, with little need for interpretation.
I still think Horry gets suspended....maybe for just a game but still suspended.
do you realize the outcry from Sun and nba fans would be 100x worse had Horry been not suspended or only suspended 1 game?Quote:
Originally Posted by PHAT TONY
Fair argument although I think the most recent precedents this playoff season have been much more relaxed, and we all know how the NBA likes to change how they handle everything from year to year.Quote:
Originally Posted by PHAT TONY
Let's say Horry would have gotten a 1 gamer anyway. Is it fair he gets a two gamer just because Stoudemire is an idiot? I think it's not right and the only reason he got the extra game was to help ensure the series goes seven games and the NBA gets more money.
I don't see how. The two decisions were completely independent of one another. Again, Horry was going to be suspended for at least one game, and that would've been justified.Quote:
Originally Posted by nkdlunch
According to league precedent, a hard foul is the same as leaving the bench during an altercation...seems fair to me.
If the other two wouldn't have been suspended, Horry gets a fine.
of course. the league couldn't be "subjective" with the stoudemire and diaw suspensions so they were with horry's.
yep..the foul did not warrant a suspension at all. If Baron Davis did not get suspended, there is no way that Robert deserved one.Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
As long as we're doing "what if's", what if there was no Altercation?
No Nash and Bell running to Horry. No scuffle. Just a flgrant foul and an ejection.
Would anybody have gotten a suspension?
Horry went above the shoulders. That one's pretty clear. He probably would have gotten dinged for that under any circumstances. The flagrant was nothing if not for the reaction.
I think Horry would've gotten one game. The league was getting fed up with that shit from losing teams.Quote:
Originally Posted by MadDog73
Absolutely not. If Juwan Howard didn't get suspended for taking out DA, this little mickey mouse hipcheck that the Suns fans are trying to make into a machette attack would be nothing more than a little bulletin board material for the Suns.Quote:
Originally Posted by MadDog73
Of course, since the Spurs were only down three at the time, all Horry did at that point was cement his position as a member of the losing team. :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
Horry deserved at least 1 game after he elbowed Bell. What I wish would have happened is Horry not react so fast and just let Bell take the first swing... no doubt Bell would've been suspended too.
bell comes down hard on horry after the rebound. horry, probably feeling surly, gives nash a love tap out of bounds. d'antoni freaks out and suddenly it looks like horry killed nash. bell decides to avenge his boyfriend's honor by confronting horry. amare and diaw attempt to join their fuck buddy but then wuss out.Quote:
Originally Posted by LuvBones
exactly but okur and the lil great white hope are way different, nash is untouchable, canadians everywhere will be in uproar :lol :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by nkdlunch
:lol Yeah, well just like the suns love to overreact so do the fans...Quote:
Originally Posted by Obstructed_View