David Stern on the Dan Patrick show today 5/16

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Originally Posted by mFFL03

david stern proved again in a public interview why he needs to be let go

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Did you mention that as he was presenting Dirk his MVP trophy?

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Originally Posted by Amare_32

What integrity?

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If the league is so bad, why do you support it or its advertisers?

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Originally Posted by sunsbum

yea that makes ALOT of sense now doesnt it?

baron davis can ELBOW someone in the side of the face causing them physical harm yet he is allowed to play next game when it was CLEARLY intentional.

bowen, wether it was on purpose or not had 2 incidents in a matter of 2 games, causing physical harm to nash and who knows what he was trying to do to amare.

and of course the horry checking nash ting.

then you have boris and amare who got off the bench...didnt engage in anything or even come close to it...yet they are the ones serving suspensions... does that make ANY SENSE to you at ALL?

i mean that has got to be the most assbackwards crap ive ever seen.

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the players on the BENCH did not leave it during that foul. WTF don't you get. Your teams coaches SUCK. its not ass backwards you are

I don't buy for a second that he has no room for leeway with the rule. The Board of Govenors basically allow him and Jackson to do as they please. I doubt they would have said anything if he decided not to give suspensions.

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Originally Posted by Johnny_Blaze_47

People are questioning the integrity of the league which he has run for 20 years...would you be sunshine and lollipops?

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So that makes it ok to be a total dick to a guy just doing his job? Dan Patrick didn't ask anything that the entire nation didn't want to be asked. DP show much constraint as I'd have been pissed off if I was being talked to that way.

If he's bitch-slapping Dan Patrick, then he's my hero.

Stern may be a dick, but he just got done handing the biggest dick in sports journalism his ass on a platter. Go Stern.

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Originally Posted by judaspriestess

the players on the BENCH did not leave it during that foul. WTF don't you get. Your teams coaches SUCK. its not ass backwards you are

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keep looking the other way, ive conveniently placed the shit under your nose and you still pretend like you cant smell it.

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Originally Posted by sunsbum

yea that makes ALOT of sense now doesnt it?

baron davis can ELBOW someone in the side of the face causing them physical harm yet he is allowed to play next game when it was CLEARLY intentional.

bowen, wether it was on purpose or not had 2 incidents in a matter of 2 games, causing physical harm to nash and who knows what he was trying to do to amare.

and of course the horry checking nash ting.

then you have boris and amare who got off the bench...didnt engage in anything or even come close to it...yet they are the ones serving suspensions... does that make ANY SENSE to you at ALL?

i mean that has got to be the most assbackwards crap ive ever seen.

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The rule's inherent flaws are it wording and the fact that unlike flagrant fouls after it is broken it is an automatic suspension FF dont carry auto suspensions even Flag. 2. Here's a thought, next time somebody takes out your boy with a hard foul, don't vigilante and race the court, wait for the next time the offender is on the court hard foul him. That's the way it was done in the old days.

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Originally Posted by sunsbum

keep looking the other way, ive conveniently placed the shit under your nose and you still pretend like you cant smell it.

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you handle poop.

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Originally Posted by sunsbum

GO LISTEN TO IT, HE ADMITTED THE RULING NEEDED CHANGES....i didnt say it HE DID. so maybe he should take of his.

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I heard the interview and he never said the rule needed to be change you dummy. what he said was if the owners wanted to visit it after the season he would be more than willing to. he went on to say that EVRYONE knows the rule and it is very clear. Stern poked holes through arguments presented by Patrick. Patrick brought up that these were marquee players..so stern replied should they caveat the rule to include only scrubs? Patrick backed off. Then intent came up. The players did not intend to fight or escalate the situation. The Stern replied well then now we must caveat the rule to judge intent of players who leave the bench during a fight but then have to verify oif they are a scrub or a marquee player..

Stern also later added "I guess it's a shame that I have a rule that I have to enforce," although he also adds that in the decade that rule has been in effect, no owner has ever suggested a change.

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Originally Posted by mabber

So that makes it ok to be a total dick to a guy just doing his job?

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Sure. It's not like there's a rule against it and he could be suspended if he knowingly disobeys it.

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Originally Posted by mabber

DP show much constraint as I'd have been pissed off if I was being talked to that way.

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That's probably why you're not a journalist.

They teach us to never become part of the story. We deal with crap attitudes all the time.

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Originally Posted by monosylab1k

If he's bitch-slapping Dan Patrick, then he's my hero.

Stern may be a dick, but he just got done handing the biggest dick in sports journalism his ass on a platter. Go Stern.

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From what I understand, Dan Patrick was pretty stunned. :lol

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Originally Posted by judaspriestess

From what I understand, Dan Patrick was pretty stunned. :lol

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Patrick backtracked at every turn..

That rule simply HAS to be changed! Stern talks about the rule making sure "no player gets hurt or killed" when there was nothing remotely close to that happening in this instance. Diaw and Stoudemire checked themselves quickly and didn't get near the altercation. Just a ridiculous ruling in my opinion.

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Originally Posted by sunsbum

keep looking the other way, ive conveniently placed the shit under your nose and you still pretend like you cant smell it.

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LOL :lol :drunk

The series is NOT over yet.

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That rule simply HAS to be changed!

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To what?

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Originally Posted by mabber

So that makes it ok to be a total dick to a guy just doing his job? Dan Patrick didn't ask anything that the entire nation didn't want to be asked. DP show much constraint as I'd have been pissed off if I was being talked to that way.

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i thought patrick sounded totally unprepared for any sort of counter argument. he should have had a better gameplan for dealing with someone way more intelligent than he is, and much better versed in league matters. i like patrick's show, but he really had no leg to stand on with his arguments.

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Originally Posted by mabber

Wasn't saying he came across as a dick because of what he said, but how he said it. He was a total dick to Dan Patrick the entire interview.

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"Pretty please with sugar on top, shut the fuck up" would have been better, I guess?

Stern has every reason to be upset at this point. The media has adopted the Suns as darlings -- the only hope to avoid the tragedy of the Spurs reaching the Finals again -- and is chirping in near unanimity about the unfairness of this suspension.

The truth is, a contrary conclusion would have been more unfair, given the league's history in enforcing that rule.

In an era where Stern is having to refute more and more suggestions that his league is fixed, he's now taking on a media that, in essence, wants the league to change rules in midstream to accomplish something akin to a fix. If I was Commissioner Stern, I'd be pretty pissed too.

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Originally Posted by FromWayDowntown

"Pretty please with sugar on top, shut the fuck up" would have been better, I guess?

Stern has every reason to be upset at this point. The media has adopted the Suns as darlings -- the only hope to avoid the tragedy of the Spurs reaching the Finals again -- and is chirping in near unanimity about the unfairness of this suspension.

The truth is, a contrary conclusion would have been more unfair, given the league's history in enforcing that rule.

In an era where Stern is having to refute more and more suggestions that his league is fixed, he's now taking on a media that, in essence, wants the league to change rules in midstream to accomplish something akin to a fix. If I was Commissioner Stern, I'd be pretty pissed too.

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Stern got pissed and stopped Patrick when he said "Horry negatively" affected the series. Stern rightfully said to stop with the crap and reminded Patrick that the 2 Suns players affetced the series by getting up. Stern also refuted the "well their emotional guys who had seen Nash beaten up all series" by stating there were 7 people on the bench and 5 managed to stay of the court..

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Originally Posted by judaspriestess

From what I understand, Dan Patrick was pretty stunned. :lol

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Awesome! Seriously, I dunno how many times that asshole will launch baseless attacks at someone he's interviewing and then stand back and innocently wonder why they're getting upset. It's nice to see him get it shoved back in his face.

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Originally Posted by FromWayDowntown

"Pretty please with sugar on top, shut the fuck up" would have been better, I guess?

Stern has every reason to be upset at this point. The media has adopted the Suns as darlings -- the only hope to avoid the tragedy of the Spurs reaching the Finals again -- and is chirping in near unanimity about the unfairness of this suspension.

The truth is, a contrary conclusion would have been more unfair, given the league's history in enforcing that rule.

In an era where Stern is having to refute more and more suggestions that his league is fixed, he's now taking on a media that, in essence, wants the league to change rules in midstream to accomplish something akin to a fix. If I was Commissioner Stern, I'd be pretty pissed too.

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No Stern brought this on himself with his inconsistent rulings. JRich no suspension but Horry 2 games. Baron Davis avoids suspension for a cheapshot on Fisher but Amare and Diaw get suspended for a normal reaction to check on Nash. Bowen knees Amare and then kicks Nash in the groin and Stern does nothing. If he were consistent with it I would not have such a problem with any of this.

You can say a lot of things about David Stern, both positive and negative. One thing you cannot say about the man is that he is anything but brilliant. He's Clintonian in some senses with his intelligence -- I think he can be polarizing because he can draw some rather fine lines sometimes -- but he's undoubtedly the smartest guy in the room on most days of his existence.