David Stern on the Dan Patrick show today 5/16

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Originally Posted by FromWayDowntown

"Pretty please with sugar on top, shut the fuck up" would have been better, I guess?

Stern has every reason to be upset at this point. The media has adopted the Suns as darlings -- the only hope to avoid the tragedy of the Spurs reaching the Finals again -- and is chirping in near unanimity about the unfairness of this suspension.

The truth is, a contrary conclusion would have been more unfair, given the league's history in enforcing that rule.

In an era where Stern is having to refute more and more suggestions that his league is fixed, he's now taking on a media that, in essence, wants the league to change rules in midstream to accomplish something akin to a fix. If I was Commissioner Stern, I'd be pretty pissed too.

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It's somewhat funny that everyone on here is on Stern's side for the first time EVER. I wonder why? :lol

So since the norm is not to suspend people for F2s, are Suns fans now basing their attacks of unfairness by Stern on the fact that Horry was suspended two games?

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Originally Posted by Amare_32

No Stern brought this on himself with his inconsistent rulings. JRich no suspension but Horry 2 games. Baron Davis avoids suspension for a cheapshot on Fisher but Amare and Diaw get suspended for a normal reaction to check on Nash. Bowen knees Amare and then kicks Nash in the groin and Stern does nothing. If he were consistent with it I would not have such a problem with any of this.

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Wait -- I thought Bowen kicked Amare and kneed Nash in the groin.

Can't you people keep your stories straight?

He was certainly consistent in the application of the "don't leave the benches if there's an altercation" rule. It's not remotely the same as the Davis incident, because the rule governing the Davis incident didn't compel a suspension. The rule governing the Amare/Diaw incident did compel a suspension. It's pretty simple.

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Originally Posted by mabber

It's somewhat funny that everyone on here is on Stern's side for the first time EVER. I wonder why? :lol

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And its funny how everyone that hates the Spurs thinks that the Suns players got fucked, I wonder why? :lol

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Originally Posted by Amare_32

No Stern brought this on himself with his inconsistent rulings. JRich no suspension but Horry 2 games. Baron Davis avoids suspension for a cheapshot on Fisher but Amare and Diaw get suspended for a normal reaction to check on Nash. Bowen knees Amare and then kicks Nash in the groin and Stern does nothing. If he were consistent with it I would not have such a problem with any of this.

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Make sure Amare and Boris commit infractions that don't have zero tolerance enforcement next time.

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

Make sure Amare and Boris commit infractions that don't have zero tolerance enforcement next time.

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Your right next time they should take a cheapshot on Parker. They might get off with no penalty.

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Originally Posted by mardigan

And its funny how everyone that hates the Spurs thinks that the Suns players got fucked, I wonder why? :lol

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I'm pulling for the Spurs :rolleyes I have much money on the Spurs winning this series and the title.

The only people that don't think the Suns got screwed are the Spurs fans.

LMAO what will happen on this board if the Suns actually win tonight?

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Originally Posted by Amare_32

Your right next time they should take a cheapshot on Parker. They might get off with no penalty.

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or a 2 game suspension

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Originally Posted by Amare_32

Your right next time they should take a cheapshot on Parker. They might get off with no penalty.

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Probably not now, but it is no surprise you are condoning cheap shots.

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Originally Posted by monosylab1k

LMAO what will happen on this board if the Suns actually win tonight?

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That's an easy one...it will be the refs fault. :lol

playoffs without the ref drama would be much appreciated

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Originally Posted by mabber

It's somewhat funny that everyone on here is on Stern's side for the first time EVER. I wonder why? :lol

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I'm almost always on the Commissioner's side. As I've watched more and more basketball, I've come to appreciate that the man generally does a great job with his league.

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Originally Posted by mabber

I'm pulling for the Spurs :rolleyes I have much money on the Spurs winning this series and the title.

The only people that don't think the Suns got screwed are the Spurs fans.

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And respected journalists.

And former NBA Champions and MVPs.

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Originally Posted by FromWayDowntown

I'm almost always on the Commissioner's side. As I've watched more and more basketball, I've come to appreciate that the man generally does a great job with his league.

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Then you're in the minority. All I've ever read on this board is complete hatred for Stern (until today).

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Originally Posted by FromWayDowntown

I'm almost always on the Commissioner's side. As I've watched more and more basketball, I've come to appreciate that the man generally does a great job with his league.

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Same here. He has made mistakes, but there hasn't been a more effective commissioner in pro sports in the past couple of decades.

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Originally Posted by Johnny_Blaze_47

And respected journalists.

And former NBA Champions and MVPs.

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So there's only about 3 of those? 90% of the articles I've read have said the rule is ridiculous.

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Originally Posted by mabber

So there's only about 3 of those? 90% of the articles I've read have said the rule is ridiculous.

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What is right is not always popular and what is popular is not always right.

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Originally Posted by sunsbum

yea that makes ALOT of sense now doesnt it?

baron davis can ELBOW someone in the side of the face causing them physical harm yet he is allowed to play next game when it was CLEARLY intentional.

bowen, wether it was on purpose or not had 2 incidents in a matter of 2 games, causing physical harm to nash and who knows what he was trying to do to amare.

and of course the horry checking nash ting.

then you have boris and amare who got off the bench...didnt engage in anything or even come close to it...yet they are the ones serving suspensions... does that make ANY SENSE to you at ALL?

i mean that has got to be the most assbackwards crap ive ever seen.

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I agree, it is a horrible rule and makes no sense. it is shitty that these guys are getting suspended. What I don't agree with is how everyone is blaming this on the spurs, maybe not you but the national media and others.The spurs did not make the rule, they did not enforce the rule. They did not petition the leauge to have them suspended. truth be told, if it was up to the spurs they would probably be playing. I am just sick of everyone making it sound like this was all master planned by the spurs and that they are the reason the players are suspended. They are not the reason the players not following the rule(a flawed horrible rule) are the reason.

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Originally Posted by mabber

So there's only about 3 of those? 90% of the articles I've read have said the rule is ridiculous.

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Jemele Hill wrote an article in support of the suspensions.

But after she wrote the "Kobe is better than Jordan" article I think it's a major stretch to call her a respected journalist.

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

Same here. He has made mistakes, but there hasn't been a more effective commissioner in pro sports in the past couple of decades.

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I've never had any problem with how the guy ran the league. I just pointed out earlier that he acted like a dick in that interview.

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Originally Posted by timvp

Exactly.

Watch what every other team does when there is an altercation on the court. Within a second, the assistant coaches jump up and hold the players back.

Instead, Nash pulled his spread eagle drama queen maneuver to sell it, D'Antoni runs over like he's going to do something and the assistant coaches join the fray.

The Suns have no one to blame but themselves.

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like I said before, if you can watch frame by frame Avaroni's reaction to the hit on Nash. :lmao that face is priceless

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Originally Posted by mabber

So there's only about 3 of those? 90% of the articles I've read have said the rule is ridiculous.

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Where were all these journalists the decade before yesterday?

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Originally Posted by mabber

I've never had any problem with how the guy ran the league. I just pointed out earlier that he acted like a dick in that interview.

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I have trouble recalling a time he didn't act like a dick.

99% of media might say rule is stupid. But 0% of owners will ever bring up the case to change it. no owner would do this, beleive me.