No asterisk on this series

The suspension of Amare and Diaw didn't hurt the Suns all that much tonight. They were kicking our asses all over the place in the first half. Starting the 3rd, Tim was owning but Phoenix went uber small and realized doubling Duncan and forcing him to give it up to shooters who weren't hitting anything was a smart choice. Luckily for the Spurs, Manu got it going and so did Bruce because Tony played pretty bad.

The Spurs gave the Suns many chances to win it and keep the lead up. Specifically Manu's two passes to the first row. Duncan didn't do much in the 2nd half after the first 3 minutes of the third.

Honestly, we'd be lost without Manu this game. The Suns played with a lot of heart and that is commendable, but to say there will be an asterisk on this series is bullshit. Horry is a big piece to our small ball and the smartest player we have so it hurt the Spurs also.

The Suns tried hard, but in the end, DEFENSE prevailed.

lol they already started:
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/9...upsmalljs6.jpg

How cute. When they can photoshop away 3 trophies let me know.

-MB

Yeah, you won't need an asterisk if this series goes 7. There is no chance the Spurs win in Phoenix in a game seven.

we said that before on dallas.

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Naive.

They have way too much faith in the average casual NBA Fan ---> :p:

Give it a couple years and no one outside of Phoenix will even remember Amare or Boris' suspension. It'll just be a vague recollection, "the Spurs...or maybe that was the Heat's year...no the Spurs won a championship that year."

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The suspension of Amare and Diaw didn't hurt the Suns all that much tonight. They were kicking our asses all over the place in the first half. Starting the 3rd, Tim was owning but Phoenix went uber small and realized doubling Duncan and forcing him to give it up to shooters who weren't hitting anything was a smart choice. Luckily for the Spurs, Manu got it going and so did Bruce because Tony played pretty bad.

The Spurs gave the Suns many chances to win it and keep the lead up. Specifically Manu's two passes to the first row. Duncan didn't do much in the 2nd half after the first 3 minutes of the third.

Honestly, we'd be lost without Manu this game. The Suns played with a lot of heart and that is commendable, but to say there will be an asterisk on this series is bullshit. Horry is a big piece to our small ball and the smartest player we have so it hurt the Spurs also.

The Suns tried hard, but in the end, DEFENSE prevailed.

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You're high. The Suns were way too tired to close it out because two of our top six players were missing. That would also be the reason why we were much worse on offense.

I am a Suns fan - no asterisk in my mind. Tough for the Suns, sure, but no asterisks are needed.

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You're high. The Suns were way too tired to close it out because two of our top six players were missing. That would also be the reason why we were much worse on offense.

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The Suns being tired is called "bad player management" by the Suns coach. Pop rested Duncan even when the Spurs were down 11. If the Suns would've won then everybody would've said Suns played "inspired ball", but since they lost now it's b/c they were tired. :lol :rolleyes

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The Suns being tired is called "bad player management" by the Suns coach. Pop rested Duncan even when the Spurs were down 11. If the Suns would've won then everybody would've said Suns played "inspired ball", but since they lost now it's b/c they were tired. :lol :rolleyes

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The reaon why we couldn't rest our players was because two of our best players were not allowed to play. It's clear that the Suns were tired at the end of the game, I'm not sure how you could dispute that.

If the Suns would have won, they still would have been tired. I missed your point, I guess.

The Suns fans had a litany of excuses when they lost short handed. Is anyone surprised that most of them can't ever lose with any kind of class? I count two so far that have managed to be extraordinarily gracious and the rest hover somewhere near troll level.

Um, the Spurs don't have any asterisks anywhere...................

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The reaon why we couldn't rest our players was because two of our best players were not allowed to play. It's clear that the Suns were tired at the end of the game, I'm not sure how you could dispute that.

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I believe there are what 12 or 13 players on the roster...

The Suns didn't need to be tired if they bothered to play any of their bench. Yeah, they are scrubs, but if they played more than 2 times in the regular Suns season at least they would know the system and be able to go into a playoff game so Nash and Co. don't have to all log 45 minutes.

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The Suns fans had a litany of excuses when they lost short handed. Is anyone surprised that most of them can't ever lose with any kind of class? I count two so far that have managed to be extraordinarily gracious and the rest hover somewhere near troll level.

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....? I'm pretty sure that I hadn't bad mouthed the Spurs in any way for this game, or that they didn't earn the victory. I was just trying to point out that Diaw and Stoudemire missing the game had an enormous effect on the Sun's play. You'd have to be blind not to see that.

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I believe there are what 12 or 13 players on the roster...

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And four of them suck ass. What's your point?

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The reaon why we couldn't rest our players was because two of our best players were not allowed to play. It's clear that the Suns were tired at the end of the game, I'm not sure how you could dispute that.

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Why weren't they allowed to play? Random aggression by Stern?

So it's the Spursreport of the Suns? Got it.

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Yeah, you won't need an asterisk if this series goes 7. There is no chance the Spurs win in Phoenix in a game seven.

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We will never know if the Spurs could have won a game 7 in Phoenix cause it will end in 6. There is no way the Spurs collapse again like in Game 4 at home! There is no way the Suns win game 6 in San Antonio !

Astericks should be on Game 4 officiating.

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....? I'm pretty sure that I hadn't bad mouthed the Spurs in any way for this game, or that they didn't earn the victory. I was just trying to point out that Diaw and Stoudemire missing the game had an enormous effect on the Sun's play. You'd have to be blind not to see that.

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Diaw and Stoudemire broke the clearest rule in the book. You'd have to be blind not to see that.

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Why weren't they allowed to play? Random aggression by Stern?

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Nope. They were suspended for breaking a shitty rule. I wasn't disputing that, I was just saying that the Suns were seriously impeeded by these Suspensions deserved or not.

Asterisk on Game 6 and the Suns if they win! The Spurs won't be at full strength!

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Diaw and Stoudemire broke the clearest rule in the book. You'd have to be blind not to see that.

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When did I ever dispute that?

My whole point is that these suspensions severly handicapped Phoenix in this series.

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The reaon why we couldn't rest our players was because two of our best players were not allowed to play. It's clear that the Suns were tired at the end of the game, I'm not sure how you could dispute that.

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Every team has 12 suited up players. If your coach doesn't want to or have enough confidence to play them, then that's his problem. The Spurs played Bonner for a few minutes. I'm sure if the Spurs had another player unable to play, Pop would've gone deeper into his bench.

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When did I ever dispute that?

My whole point is that these suspensions severly handicapped Phoenix in this series.

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So the fuck what? Does a moral victory make you happy? Does trying to diminish the victory somehow make it hurt less? Why do you even bother if you can't just say it was an exciting game and your team gave it your all? Seriously, you fucking douchebags have been bellyaching about the suspensions for two straight days. It's not like anyone needs to be reminded. The Spurs played without the biggest playoff performer in recent NBA history, and did it without a complaint. You guys have yet to give it a fucking rest. Now would be a good time to start.

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Every team has 12 suited up players. If your coach doesn't want to or have enough confidence to play them, then that's his problem. The Spurs played Bonner for a few minutes. I'm sure if the Spurs had another player unable to play, Pop would've gone deeper into his bench.

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And if say Ginobli and Bowen were suspended, it would probably seriously effect the way that San Antonio played. Phoenix does not have a deep bench.

And honestly, are you guys really saying that these suspensions didn't seriously effect Phoenix's chances of winning this game?

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And if say Ginobli and Bowen were suspended, it would probably seriously effect the way that San Antonio played. Phoenix does not have a deep bench.

And honestly, are you guys really saying that these suspensions didn't seriously effect Phoenix's chances of winning this game?

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Phoenix Suns: Leading the league in ifs and buts since 1968.

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So the fuck what? Does a moral victory make you happy? Does trying to diminish the victory somehow make it hurt less? Why do you even bother if you can't just say it was an exciting game and your team gave it your all? Seriously, you fucking douchebags have been bellyaching about the suspensions for two straight days. It's not like anyone needs to be reminded.

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Damn yo, tell me how you really feel.

It was an exciting game and my team gave it our all. And we were tired and didn't win. And the reason that we were tired is because two of our players were suspended.

The original poster brought up a point that the suspensions didn't matter in this game. I disagreed. This shit ain't rocket science.

this series is a freakin joke......the league is obviously favoring san antonio because Duncan shoulda been suspended for leaving the bench in the 2nd quarter of game 4. it's like the jordan rules of the old bulls days, Stoudamire doesnt have as much seniority as Duncan so the commissioner decides i'll make an impact on the series by suspending Stoudamire. Thats absolute horseshit. I'm an NBA fan, i am the beerman at cubs/sox(well not anymore cause they are assholes) and used to be the beerman at Bears games. it's a freakin joke when the commissioner attempts to alter a series. Phoenix would have killed tonight with Stoudamire......the NBA playoffs is a freakin' joke. When you have 2 heavyweights in a fight, you let them fight full strength. I enjoy watching good basketball, but i dont enjoy watching basketball when it's not a team's best 5 against another team's best 5. How about you suspend Baron Davis for his cheapshot Robert Horry Like elbow in game 4 of that series. The NBA doesnt rule fairly and shouldnt suspend players in the most important series over bullshit made up rules. I just joined this stupid forum tonight to voice my frustration. The NBA is bullshit and the Spurs are obviously the team the NBA favors and thinks will get the highest rating in the finals. I want to burn my David Robinson rookie card after how b.s. i think this league is. Pathetic! Absolutely pathetic!!!!

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And if say Ginobli and Bowen were suspended, it would probably seriously effect the way that San Antonio played. Phoenix does not have a deep bench.

And honestly, are you guys really saying that these suspensions didn't seriously effect Phoenix's chances of winning this game?

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Who cares? The Suns don't get a mulligan for having their players suspended. This game counts exactly the same number of losses as game 1.

At least if Ginobili and Bowen were suspended, I guarantee you we wouldn't play Duncan/Barry/Finley/Paker/Oberto for 45+ minutes. Hence the problem. D'Antoni has been in love with his amazing 7 man rotation all season long and it came and bit him in the rear.

So I guess there will be an * on this series in the minds of the internets warriors. Oh well.

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Damn yo, tell me how you really feel.

It was an exciting game and my team gave it our all. And we were tired and didn't win. And the reason that we were tired is because two of our players were suspended.

The original poster brought up a point that the suspensions didn't matter in this game. I disagreed. This shit ain't rocket science.

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Just have a T shirt printed up that says "NBA champions if there were no stupid rules that we had to follow". Nobody here has a lick of pity for you.

Now go home and get your fuckin' shine box.

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Who cares? The Suns don't get a mulligan for having their players suspended. This game counts exactly the same number of losses as game 1.

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Apparently the starter of this thread cares. Perhaps you should take it out on him.

When did I say we should get a mulligan? Do you even read the post, or do you just spout off one ill conceived argument and then proceed to make sweeping generalizations that have fuck all to do with anything that I'm saying?

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this series is a freakin joke......the league is obviously favoring san antonio because Duncan shoulda been suspended for leaving the bench in the 2nd quarter of game 4. it's like the jordan rules of the old bulls days, Stoudamire doesnt have as much seniority as Duncan so the commissioner decides i'll make an impact on the series by suspending Stoudamire. Thats absolute horseshit. I'm an NBA fan, i am the beerman at cubs/sox(well not anymore cause they are assholes) and used to be the beerman at Bears games. it's a freakin joke when the commissioner attempts to alter a series. Phoenix would have killed tonight with Stoudamire......the NBA playoffs is a freakin' joke. When you have 2 heavyweights in a fight, you let them fight full strength. I enjoy watching good basketball, but i dont enjoy watching basketball when it's not a team's best 5 against another team's best 5. How about you suspend Baron Davis for his cheapshot Robert Horry Like elbow in game 4 of that series. The NBA doesnt rule fairly and shouldnt suspend players in the most important series over bullshit made up rules. I just joined this stupid forum tonight to voice my frustration. The NBA is bullshit and the Spurs are obviously the team the NBA favors and thinks will get the highest rating in the finals. I want to burn my David Robinson rookie card after how b.s. i think this league is. Pathetic! Absolutely pathetic!!!!

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'kay. Bye. Thanks for venting.

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this series is a freakin joke......the league is obviously favoring san antonio because Duncan shoulda been suspended for leaving the bench in the 2nd quarter of game 4. it's like the jordan rules of the old bulls days, Stoudamire doesnt have as much seniority as Duncan so the commissioner decides i'll make an impact on the series by suspending Stoudamire. Thats absolute horseshit. I'm an NBA fan, i am the beerman at cubs/sox(well not anymore cause they are assholes) and used to be the beerman at Bears games. it's a freakin joke when the commissioner attempts to alter a series. Phoenix would have killed tonight with Stoudamire......the NBA playoffs is a freakin' joke. When you have 2 heavyweights in a fight, you let them fight full strength. I enjoy watching good basketball, but i dont enjoy watching basketball when it's not a team's best 5 against another team's best 5. How about you suspend Baron Davis for his cheapshot Robert Horry Like elbow in game 4 of that series. The NBA doesnt rule fairly and shouldnt suspend players in the most important series over bullshit made up rules. I just joined this stupid forum tonight to voice my frustration. The NBA is bullshit and the Spurs are obviously the team the NBA favors and thinks will get the highest rating in the finals. I want to burn my David Robinson rookie card after how b.s. i think this league is. Pathetic! Absolutely pathetic!!!!

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:lmao:lmao:lmao

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Apparently the starter of this thread cares. Perhaps you should take it out on him.

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Just tell him to stick it up his asterisk.

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the league is obviously favoring san antonio because Duncan shoulda been suspended for leaving the bench in the 2nd quarter of game 4. it's like the jordan rules of the old bulls days,The NBA is bullshit and the Spurs are obviously the team the NBA favors and thinks will get the highest rating in the finals.

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Is this really Stoudemire writing this shit or just another really stupid person?

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Just tell him to stick it up his asterisk.

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*Snicker* Such originality.

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At least if Ginobili and Bowen were suspended, I guarantee you we wouldn't play Duncan/Barry/Finley/Paker/Oberto for 45+ minutes. Hence the problem. D'Antoni has been in love with his amazing 7 man rotation all season long and it came and bit him in the rear.

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Actually Duncan played 41 minutes tonight, if another post was accurate. So my guess - based upon reality - is that yes, you probably would.

Amare is a horrible defender, and has been in foul trouble the past 2 games. His absence was perhaps helpful to the suns last night, but who knows.

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Is this really Stoudemire writing this shit or just another really stupid person?

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It is just the same warmed-over crap that is being served here daily. Really tiresome, IMO. Suns lost, no excuses. But what do I know, I am just a whiner.

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*Snicker* Such originality.

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Don't get on my bad side Snicker Boy.

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Don't get on my bad side Snicker Boy.

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What are you going to do, glare at the monitor? *shudder*

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Actually Duncan played 41 minutes tonight, if another post was accurate. So my guess - based upon reality - is that yes, you probably would.

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Heh, I seriously doubt it. I don't even remember the last time Pop played Duncan serious minutes, he treats him like he's so fragile. Parker isn't even capable of playing heavy and Oberto would be in foul trouble.

Pop has used a deep rotation all year, he isn't going to play the starters 90% of the game.

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What are you going to do, glare at the monitor? *shudder*

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Can I borrow your face for a few days while my ass is on vacation?

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Can I borrow your face for a few days while my ass is on vacation?

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Sorry, not into gay sex.

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this series is a freakin joke......the league is obviously favoring san antonio because Duncan shoulda been suspended for leaving the bench in the 2nd quarter of game 4. it's like the jordan rules of the old bulls days, Stoudamire doesnt have as much seniority as Duncan so the commissioner decides i'll make an impact on the series by suspending Stoudamire. Thats absolute horseshit. I'm an NBA fan, i am the beerman at cubs/sox(well not anymore cause they are assholes) and used to be the beerman at Bears games. it's a freakin joke when the commissioner attempts to alter a series. Phoenix would have killed tonight with Stoudamire......the NBA playoffs is a freakin' joke. When you have 2 heavyweights in a fight, you let them fight full strength. I enjoy watching good basketball, but i dont enjoy watching basketball when it's not a team's best 5 against another team's best 5. How about you suspend Baron Davis for his cheapshot Robert Horry Like elbow in game 4 of that series. The NBA doesnt rule fairly and shouldnt suspend players in the most important series over bullshit made up rules. I just joined this stupid forum tonight to voice my frustration. The NBA is bullshit and the Spurs are obviously the team the NBA favors and thinks will get the highest rating in the finals. I want to burn my David Robinson rookie card after how b.s. i think this league is. Pathetic! Absolutely pathetic!!!!

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Amen brother! :clap That's what I've been saying and these Spurs jokers come back with "Suns fans are whiners". I swear the NBA = Nazi Basketball Association. Look, they even gave the MVP to a German this year. How fitting! :tu

Obviously it had nothing to do with the fact that Duncan left the bench when there was not a fight on the floor.

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Heh, I seriously doubt it. I don't even remember the last time Pop played Duncan serious minutes, he treats him like he's so fragile. Parker isn't even capable of playing heavy and Oberto would be in foul trouble.

Pop has used a deep rotation all year, he isn't going to play the starters 90% of the game.

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You seriously doubt he would, or that he did? Tonight, with the man advantage, Duncan still played 41, Bowen 40, Parker 39, and Manu 38, and old man Finley 37...

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Sorry, not into gay sex.

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Do you ever wonder what life would be like if you'd had enough oxygen at birth?

Did I post the thing about ifs and buts in here? The reality is that the Spurs won. Go somewhere else to fantasize about what could have been, kids.

http://i.imdb.com/Photos/Ss/0118887/fcstil_0319.jpg
You had your chance and you BLEW IT!

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Do you ever wonder what life would be like if you'd had enough oxygen at birth?

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Oh, sorry, I didn't realize you had those kinds of issues. Props for still being able to use the internets.

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:lmao

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Oh, sorry, I didn't realize you had those kinds of issues. Props for still being able to use the internets.

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This is too easy.

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Originally Posted by dj chilla

this series is a freakin joke......the league is obviously favoring san antonio because Duncan shoulda been suspended for leaving the bench in the 2nd quarter of game 4. it's like the jordan rules of the old bulls days, Stoudamire doesnt have as much seniority as Duncan so the commissioner decides i'll make an impact on the series by suspending Stoudamire. Thats absolute horseshit. I'm an NBA fan, i am the beerman at cubs/sox(well not anymore cause they are assholes) and used to be the beerman at Bears games. it's a freakin joke when the commissioner attempts to alter a series. Phoenix would have killed tonight with Stoudamire......the NBA playoffs is a freakin' joke. When you have 2 heavyweights in a fight, you let them fight full strength. I enjoy watching good basketball, but i dont enjoy watching basketball when it's not a team's best 5 against another team's best 5. How about you suspend Baron Davis for his cheapshot Robert Horry Like elbow in game 4 of that series. The NBA doesnt rule fairly and shouldnt suspend players in the most important series over bullshit made up rules. I just joined this stupid forum tonight to voice my frustration. The NBA is bullshit and the Spurs are obviously the team the NBA favors and thinks will get the highest rating in the finals. I want to burn my David Robinson rookie card after how b.s. i think this league is. Pathetic! Absolutely pathetic!!!!

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Are you serious? Wait.....rephrase. are you HIGH?????? Ratings? Why don't you go back and check the ratings for Spurs finals. Nothing to brag about.

By the way, whether the rules are bullshit or not, they still exist. It's not up to players to break them simply because they don't know or don't care. It's up to the league office and the owners to address it at the appropriate time.

My asterik is tainted. ( random thought alert ! )

If there's an asterisk, it ain't the taint.

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The reaon why we couldn't rest our players was because two of our best players were not allowed to play. It's clear that the Suns were tired at the end of the game, I'm not sure how you could dispute that.

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You know, you keep making excuse after excuse for your losses to the Spurs. The Spurs simply outplayed you, just like you outplayed us in games 2 and 4. Why can't you take a cue from a true sport like Steve Nash and admit that? Hell, we were tired, too.

Sure, two of your key players (and one of ours, don't forget) were not allowed to play -- because they were too stupid to stay on the bench. They knew the rules.

Your anger is displaced. The Spurs didn't suspend Stoudemire and Diaw; the league did. Until you get that through your heads and stop crying, you don't DESERVE a championship.

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Naive.

They have way too much faith in the average casual NBA Fan ---> :p:

Give it a couple years and no one outside of Phoenix will even remember Amare or Boris' suspension. It'll just be a vague recollection, "the Spurs...or maybe that was the Heat's year...no the Spurs won a championship that year."

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I was thinking the same thing. :lol

We still have a long way to go, game 6 without Horry will be very tough. If it was 2005 and we were scary at home like we used to be, I wouldn't be worried, but unfortunately we are vulnerable at home this year, and I think some of that is down to crowd "apathy", at least in comparison to past years and to other playoff teams' home crowds.

People need to get LOUD for game 6, and all dress in BLACK like has been suggested by people on the board. Time to fully reclaim our home turf. :ihit

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When did I ever dispute that?

My whole point is that these suspensions severly handicapped Phoenix in this series.

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Dude, it was clear what you were saying, apologies for the obtuseness of my fellow Spurs fans. ;) :lol

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Every team has 12 suited up players. If your coach doesn't want to or have enough confidence to play them, then that's his problem. The Spurs played Bonner for a few minutes. I'm sure if the Spurs had another player unable to play, Pop would've gone deeper into his bench.

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This is a good point - it goes to the STRATEGIC level of the NBA. It's not as important is in football or baseball, but depth DOES MATTER in the NBA, and this unfortunate situation (for all) is a good example why.

Phoenix played hard and with a lot of emotion. Sometimes for one game with a star player(s) out, teams actually step up and play even better than usual. I think this was the case tonight. Spurs actually played like a team who kind of felt sorry that the suspension happened and it almost cost them the game until they woke up in the final quarter and remembered that they are champions.

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Amen brother! :clap That's what I've been saying and these Spurs jokers come back with "Suns fans are whiners". I swear the NBA = Nazi Basketball Association. Look, they even gave the MVP to a German this year. How fitting! :tu

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You're a goddamn idiot. You just said, "Amen brother!" to a quote that included

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The NBA is bullshit and the Spurs are obviously the team the NBA favors and thinks will get the highest rating in the finals.

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I mean, comments like that are so remarkably ignorant they're hard to respond to. It's like having a conversation with a mentally handicapped person.

Look, you can't make it any simpler than this: The Spurs have been part of the lowest rated Finals in history. David Stern pulls his hair out when looking at the income from the Finals the Spurs play in.

My God, you guys are truly delusional. Stop Whining, the league isn't persecuting you! :rolleyes

The suns fans (save the few exceptions here) are truely masters at the art of excuse making. I have never seen anything like it...ever.


most UNchampionship minded fanbase ive ever seen across any sport.

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this series is a freakin joke......the league is obviously favoring san antonio because Duncan shoulda been suspended for leaving the bench in the 2nd quarter of game 4. it's like the jordan rules of the old bulls days, Stoudamire doesnt have as much seniority as Duncan so the commissioner decides i'll make an impact on the series by suspending Stoudamire. Thats absolute horseshit. I'm an NBA fan, i am the beerman at cubs/sox(well not anymore cause they are assholes) and used to be the beerman at Bears games. it's a freakin joke when the commissioner attempts to alter a series. Phoenix would have killed tonight with Stoudamire......the NBA playoffs is a freakin' joke. When you have 2 heavyweights in a fight, you let them fight full strength. I enjoy watching good basketball, but i dont enjoy watching basketball when it's not a team's best 5 against another team's best 5. How about you suspend Baron Davis for his cheapshot Robert Horry Like elbow in game 4 of that series. The NBA doesnt rule fairly and shouldnt suspend players in the most important series over bullshit made up rules. I just joined this stupid forum tonight to voice my frustration. The NBA is bullshit and the Spurs are obviously the team the NBA favors and thinks will get the highest rating in the finals. I want to burn my David Robinson rookie card after how b.s. i think this league is. Pathetic! Absolutely pathetic!!!!

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the jordan rules were actually the hard hits that the pistons would lay on jordan when he drove to the rim to make him pay for scoring. glad you knew that.

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Yeah, you won't need an asterisk if this series goes 7. There is no chance the Spurs win in Phoenix in a game seven.

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I assume you mean like they didn't win game 1 and game 5 IN PHOENIX?

Yep.....just no way in hell the Spurs can win in Phoenix......Might as well concede if we have to go back there for a game 7.

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You're a goddamn idiot. You just said, "Amen brother!" to a quote that included


I mean, comments like that are so remarkably ignorant they're hard to respond to. It's like having a conversation with a mentally handicapped person.

Look, you can't make it any simpler than this: The Spurs have been part of the lowest rated Finals in history. David Stern pulls his hair out when looking at the income from the Finals the Spurs play in.

My God, you guys are truly delusional. Stop Whining, the league isn't persecuting you! :rolleyes

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LOL....Stern would prefer to see the Suns vs Suns in the Finals. That way there could be 500 shots put up and it would be oh, so exciting to watch.

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Yep.....just no way in hell the Spurs can win in Phoenix......Might as well concede if we have to go back there for a game 7.

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Very true.....I guess I imagined that whole "Game 1" thing when everybody was on the court for both teams and the Spurs won.

My bad. :)

Asterisks are only placed by those who didn't win.

Suspension is going to hurt the most when Amare and Diaw return. The Suns simply expended too much energy, physical and emotional, trying to make up for their absence, and it will not be unreasonable to assume the same effort will be absent for game 6.

In my opinion, the Suns practically lost the series in a make-or-break decision to play a short rotation hard, in favor of a longer (but less-talented) rotation which would have conserved energy for Friday. All or nothing, and it almost worked out to their favor, until Bowen decided to sit in a corner.

The asterisk, if there is one (and I think it is a horrible idea anyway), should be placed next to Coach* D'Antoni. They could have won the series, if a decision to play six guys didn't bite them in the asterisk.

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You're high. The Suns were way too tired to close it out because two of our top six players were missing. That would also be the reason why we were much worse on offense.

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No need to be a sore loser fan. This person was referring to THIS specific Phoenix lineup, obviously. No need to point out what I'm hoping most everybody interested knows, which is that Stoudemire and Diaw did not suit up. You know, there still was a game last night. :rolleyes

So spare us your lame drug use comments.

Im just curious. Have the Phoenix Suns ever legitimately lost a basketball game? Ever?


I mean...if it wasn't for all the injustice in the world, you guys would have a perfect record.

I find that amazing. What a great basketball team. Fuck the man for trying to hold you guys back.

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And if say Ginobli and Bowen were suspended, it would probably seriously effect the way that San Antonio played. Phoenix does not have a deep bench.

And honestly, are you guys really saying that these suspensions didn't seriously effect Phoenix's chances of winning this game?

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Not at all. The Spurs dodged a bullet. They nearly had an historical loss of epic proportions. Scoreboard is all that matters, and as a Spurs fan, I'll take it. Game 6 will be a blast to watch.

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Not at all. The Spurs dodged a bullet. They nearly had an historical loss of epic proportions. Scoreboard is all that matters, and as a Spurs fan, I'll take it. Game 6 will be a blast to watch.

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No shit. If the Spurs lost last night, we would be the embarrassment of the NBA.

I'd much rather hear Suns complain abotu conspiracy theories, than hear them laugh in our faces if they beat us without Amare!

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Originally Posted by Soul Patch

Im just curious. Have the Phoenix Suns ever legitimately lost a basketball game? Ever?


I mean...if it wasn't for all the injustice in the world, you guys would have a perfect record.

I find that amazing. What a great basketball team. Fuck the man for trying to hold you guys back.

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:lol

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Originally Posted by EssaySpur1001

The suspension of Amare and Diaw didn't hurt the Suns all that much tonight.

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Stopped reading right there :lol

Losing their most dominant player sure didn't hurt the Suns, who normally score 100+ in this series, in a game where they lost by 3 while putting up 85. And it goes beyond this game of course. Missing a starter and a key bench player for a team who already has a short rotation, a lot of these guys are going to be exhausted for game 6 on the road.

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Stopped reading right there :lol

Losing their most dominant player sure didn't hurt the Suns, who normally score 100+ in this series, in a game where they lost by 3 while putting up 85. And it goes beyond this game of course. Missing a starter and a key bench player for a team who already has a short rotation, a lot of these guys are going to be exhausted for game 6 on the road.

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I think the point was, even without Amare and Diaw, they still had a great chance to win the game.

Bottom line: You can't blame the Spurs that the Suns lost. The Suns had plenty of chances, and the Spurs shot horribly, they were lucky they won.

I don't understand how true fans think the Suns have lost the series... if anything, the fact that game was so close, and not a blow out as many predicted, worries me as a Spurs fan.

Suns just need to win game 6 with a healthy, rested, and vengeful Amare leading them. Fuckin' nut up, Suns fans!

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You know, you keep making excuse after excuse for your losses to the Spurs. The Spurs simply outplayed you, just like you outplayed us in games 2 and 4. Why can't you take a cue from a true sport like Steve Nash and admit that? Hell, we were tired, too.

Sure, two of your key players (and one of ours, don't forget) were not allowed to play -- because they were too stupid to stay on the bench. They knew the rules.

Your anger is displaced. The Spurs didn't suspend Stoudemire and Diaw; the league did. Until you get that through your heads and stop crying, you don't DESERVE a championship.

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I'm well aware that the league suspended Diaw and Amare and I'm well aware it was because of a rule. I wasn't trying to say that it was incorrect, just saying that Boris and Amare's absence affected the Suns. No where did I blame the Spurs or anything that they did, and nowhere did I say that the Spurs didn't deserve it or play hard. Sorry to burst your bubble, but all Suns fans don't think alike.

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I'm well aware that the league suspended Diaw and Amare and I'm well aware it was because of a rule. I wasn't trying to say that it was incorrect, just saying that Boris and Amare's absence affected the Suns. No where did I blame the Spurs or anything that they did, and nowhere did I say that the Spurs didn't deserve it or play hard. Sorry to burst your bubble, but all Suns fans don't think alike.

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At least you have an excuse for losing, which is the most important thing.

Now go home and get your fuckin' shine box.

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At least you have an excuse for losing, which is the most important thing.

Now go home and get your fuckin' shine box.

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Dude, once again, there's a difference between a reason and an excuse. For example, the reason that the Spurs lost in game three is because they grew overconfident and did not make defensive stops when they had to, as well as let their offense go stagnant when Phoenix surprised them with the double team. That is not an excuse. That is a reason. The reason that Phoenix lost is because our starter's played too many minutes and as a result of that we could not execute offensively. No need for the hostility.

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The suspension of Amare and Diaw didn't hurt the Suns all that much tonight. They were kicking our asses all over the place in the first half. Starting the 3rd, Tim was owning but Phoenix went uber small and realized doubling Duncan and forcing him to give it up to shooters who weren't hitting anything was a smart choice. Luckily for the Spurs, Manu got it going and so did Bruce because Tony played pretty bad.

The Spurs gave the Suns many chances to win it and keep the lead up. Specifically Manu's two passes to the first row. Duncan didn't do much in the 2nd half after the first 3 minutes of the third.

Honestly, we'd be lost without Manu this game. The Suns played with a lot of heart and that is commendable, but to say there will be an asterisk on this series is bullshit. Horry is a big piece to our small ball and the smartest player we have so it hurt the Spurs also.

The Suns tried hard, but in the end, DEFENSE prevailed.

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I couldn't get past that first sentence :lol

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Now go home and get your fuckin' shine box.

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Please stop quoting a quote. It doesn't make you look cool. It just makes you look like a fucking douche bag actually.

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Originally Posted by EssaySpur1001

The suspension of Amare and Diaw didn't hurt the Suns all that much tonight. They were kicking our asses all over the place in the first half. Starting the 3rd, Tim was owning but Phoenix went uber small and realized doubling Duncan and forcing him to give it up to shooters who weren't hitting anything was a smart choice. Luckily for the Spurs, Manu got it going and so did Bruce because Tony played pretty bad.

The Spurs gave the Suns many chances to win it and keep the lead up. Specifically Manu's two passes to the first row. Duncan didn't do much in the 2nd half after the first 3 minutes of the third.

Honestly, we'd be lost without Manu this game. The Suns played with a lot of heart and that is commendable, but to say there will be an asterisk on this series is bullshit. Horry is a big piece to our small ball and the smartest player we have so it hurt the Spurs also.

The Suns tried hard, but in the end, DEFENSE prevailed.

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Whatever makes you feel better.

Fact is, they had 2 starters suspended over some bullshit and still almost won.

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Dude, once again, there's a difference between a reason and an excuse. For example, the reason that the Spurs lost in game three is because they grew overconfident and did not make defensive stops when they had to, as well as let their offense go stagnant when Phoenix surprised them with the double team. That is not an excuse. That is a reason. The reason that Phoenix lost is because our starter's played too many minutes and as a result of that we could not execute offensively. No need for the hostility.

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FWIW, I think your posts have been mostly decent and full of reason. I think you're just catching hell because you're bretheren have been less than typical, incompetent homers. Don't mind the misdirected anger, at this point we're not sure what else to respond with. :dramaquee

But what do I know, I'm a Spurs fan. :depressed

You still can't say for sure if you would have won with Amare, but I guess you'll have a shot in Game 6. And the Spurs will be without Horry, so you have a good chance at taking another one in San Antonio. No excuses either way.

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Please stop quoting a quote. It doesn't make you look cool. It just makes you look like a fucking douche bag actually.

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If you don't like it, click the X.

Now go home and get your fuckin' shine box.

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Now go home and get your fuckin' shine box.

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You know how when someone says something really cheesy and you feel embarassed for them? It's kinda like that...

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You know how when someone says something really cheesy and you feel embarassed for them? It's kinda like that...

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yeah, that fits you to a t

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Dude, once again, there's a difference between a reason and an excuse. For example, the reason that the Spurs lost in game three is because they grew overconfident and did not make defensive stops when they had to, as well as let their offense go stagnant when Phoenix surprised them with the double team. That is not an excuse. That is a reason. The reason that Phoenix lost is because our starter's played too many minutes and as a result of that we could not execute offensively. No need for the hostility.

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Didn't San Antonio win game 3? Try proofreading. It works.

Also, the rest of the stars played heavy minutes for 2 reasons:

1. Because Amare and Diaw were suspended. I won't go into if it was deserved, I'll stick with the facts.

2. Because, in my opinion, D'Antoni is a shitty coach who made shitty substitution decisions. Whether your scrubs suck ass or not, they are there for one reason: To give the stars and starters a rest.

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yeah, that fits you to a t

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Or when someone says something that is really out of place and makes no sense...

or when someone can't comprehend elementary colloquial phrases.

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or when someone can't comprehend elementary colloquial phrases.

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Its not a matter of comprehension. Its a matter of relevance. See when you make a statement it is a declaration in speech or writing, setting forth facts, particulars etc.

Enter more coins to continue... 3...2....1 :toast

my observation was quite relevant. you, otoh, are not.

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my observation was quite relevant. you, otoh, are not.

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An observation is not a statement... /sigh

Nevermind.