Why the hate on Stern?

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Originally Posted by EssaySpur1001

Yeah, the rule is stupid, but everyone's hating on him because he followed the proper guidelines. I don't understand what everyone is griping about. Why does everyone blame Stern and not Amare or the Suns' 7 coaches that failed to keep him on the bench? You didn't see anyone from the Spurs running onto the court during the altercation.

IMO, Stern would've been a bigger pussy if he had let it go. Everyone knows he likes Phoenix more because they bring him better ratings. I personally think it took more balls to do what he did (even if he did pussy out and not travel to Phoenix, but with the way Sun fans are calling in bomb threats, who could blame him?). Anyone agree?

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No, but you make a good Stern ass kisser. :lol

Stay near the bench.

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Originally Posted by Obstructed_View

Stern's sarcastic response to an entire country that wanted him to cheat to screw a team that nobody likes or wants to see outside of San Antonio after all the accusations of fixing games that he's had to endure all these years is completely justified. You guys are all but asking him to fix the series since it started. The Spurs already got fucked by having a guy suspended two games for a foul that wasn't all that hard. The Spurs already got fucked by the officials allowing a guy with blood gushing out of his face to step onto the floor and score five points. The sports world has been trying to get Bowen suspended for stepping on the back of Amare's heel and for clearing out space on Nash.

Fuck all of you if you don't get it. Amare and Diaw got what they deserved, and if Horry planned it all along, his jersey should be retired in San Antonio.

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You're wrong. Sarcasm just fueled the fire. He should have addressed the issue with the prudence of a judge or kept his mouth shut.

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

Stay near the bench.

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Unless you are Phoenix, and then you can do what you want and count on the American Idol voters to call in to have your suspensions overturned.

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Originally Posted by UV Ray

You're wrong. Sarcasm just fueled the fire.

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Fueled what fire? The internets whining fire?

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Originally Posted by UV Ray

You're wrong. Sarcasm just fueled the fire. He should have addressed the issue with the prudence of a judge or kept his mouth shut.

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What the hell does fire have to do with it? You guys have been whipping yourselves into a lather since game 2 of the series. David Stern wasn't involved. The Suns were the ones who sent a tape of Amare's flat tire to the league and started asking that Bowen be suspended. I wouldn't be surprised if he's just as sick of the crybabies as the rest of us are.

The fact that David Stern went to every media outlet and answered questions should be admired. He didn't snap at anyone on PTI or ESPNews, he just got pissed at Patrick. Dan Patrick suggested that he had no right to suspend Amare because he's a superstar. Then he followed up and told him that he had no right to suspend the Suns because they didn't go very far off the bench, and weren't going to fight. Dan then followed up and told him that he had no right to suspend them because Horry started it. Dan Patrick has always hated the Spurs and didn't even do a good job of disguising it, and he got his ass handed to him for it.

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Originally Posted by Obstructed_View

Unless you are Phoenix, and then you can do what you want and count on the American Idol voters to call in to have your suspensions overturned.

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His response was that of a buffoon. Never watched the show (American Idol) but I might pay to to see Shecky Stern open up for Nick Thinblood at the 3:00am lounge show at the AZ Casino.

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Originally Posted by Amare_32

Because he rewarded Horry's cheapshot by swinging the series in the Spurs favor. The suspensions were moronic. Is not like they went out there throwing punches. I find it almost comical that Stern tried to deflect criticism about his decision by throwing the owners under the bus saying is thier rule. But Game 5 is over the Spurs should be concerned that they managed to just get by and win the game. The Spurs should have won this game by 10-15 points.

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OK, OK, let's say HYPOTHETICALLY that what Horry did was on PURPOSE to bait the suns players off the bench. Who are the morons who fell for this devious plan?

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His response was that of a buffoon.

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Except that he was right and his logic was unassailable, you're correct.

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Originally Posted by lrrr

OK, OK, let's say HYPOTHETICALLY that what Horry did was on PURPOSE to bait the suns players off the bench. Who are the morons who fell for this devious plan?

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No shit, why weren't Burke and Banks designated to lose control of their animal instincts and rush the floor?

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

Except that he was right and his logic was unassailable, you're correct.

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I do not argue with you sir, only Mr. Stern's sarcasm.

Amare didn't get involved he was restrained before he did...keyword, BEFORE. Granted, there was a 50/50 chance he might have gotten involved. No one really knows what he would've done.

The one person who said that if Horry planned this all along and his jersey should be retired here, just shows how narrow-minded "new" Spurs fans are today. I don't think you would hear that coming from the "reasonable" ones who post on here.

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Amare didn't get involved

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He got involved when he left the bench area. That's why the rule is worded the way it is.

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Granted, there was a 50/50 chance he might have gotten involved. No one really knows what he would've done.

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So let's roll the dice and rewrite the rules to let players run out onto the court for any reason whatsoever.

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The one person who said that if Horry planned this all along and his jersey should be retired here, just shows how narrow-minded "new" Spurs fans are today.

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For a writer, you can't recognize sarcasm for shit.

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Originally Posted by UV Ray

I do not argue with you sir, only Mr. Stern's sarcasm.

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So? Anyone who didn't know Stern is a dick should know. That's as good a way as any.

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

For a writer, you can't recognize sarcasm for shit.

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I just get paid for it. :)

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

So? Anyone who didn't know Stern is a dick should know. That's as good a way as any.

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That was very funny.

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Originally Posted by pooh

Amare didn't get involved he was restrained before he did...keyword, BEFORE. Granted, there was a 50/50 chance he might have gotten involved. No one really knows what he would've done.

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What difference does that make? The rule, as written, doesn't embrace any discretion to consider intent or actual involvement. A player who is not in the game MUST -- keyword -- be suspended if he leaves the vicinity of his bench during an on-court altercation. "Must" doesn't mean "if the Commissioner thinks it's wise" or "as long as it's not against the perceived best interests of fans" or "if the player is a superstar and his suspension might impact the outcome of a playoff game." Must leaves no discretion.

Is it a bad rule? Perhaps. But I don't think that you can legitimately argue that the Commissioner could, in midstream: (1) ignore the rule in this circumstance; or (2) change the rule on his whim. There's a reason that the league has specific procedures for changing rules. It's curious to me that so many who complain about this Commissioner's power are so willing to give him carte blanche to change rules in the middle of a season.

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Originally Posted by pooh

I just get paid for it. :)

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Not for recognizing sarcasm.

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Originally Posted by pooh

The one person who said that if Horry planned this all along and his jersey should be retired here, just shows how narrow-minded "new" Spurs fans are today. I don't think you would hear that coming from the "reasonable" ones who post on here.

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From someone who thinks his team was "fucked" for being suspended for going into the stands and throwing punches at random fans, creating one of the most shameful incidents in the history of American sports, you have no high ground on which to stand. Your indignation is laughable.

If Horry were clever enough to deliver a hard foul and was so sure that it was going to bring only opposing players off the bench that he was willing to sacrifice game 4, which was still only a three point game at the time, he's got skills bordering somewhere between a savant and a clairvoyant, and it's a hell of a gamble for one of the biggest clutch players in NBA history. It's such a ludicrous thing to believe that I didn't figure even you would have a problem with it.

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Are you taking credit?

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Originally Posted by UV Ray

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Shocking. Proof that people can't place the blame where it belongs.

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

Are you taking credit?

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No, he doesn't need my help. He's deflating faster than the Microfiber ball.

Yeah, he'll be voted out by the fans any day now.

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

Yeah, he'll be voted out by the fans any day now.

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Well I guess we can dream...