Re: Who is worse - Tafoya, Gray or Sager?
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Originally Posted by ANGEL LUV
Also I am disappointed in myself because I apparently did not do a good job of getting my point across.
I have no strong feelings one way or the other about Michelle's question. I just feel like people should be allowed to think about the interview as they do- i.e everyone is entitled to their ( right or wrong) opinion.
Good journalists do not have opinions! The first tenet of journalism is to be impartial!
Labelling Tafoya, Gray and Sager "journalists' is an insult to real journalism. They are gossip-mongers, no more.
Proper journalists lay out the facts, ask the right questions, and let the audience decide for themselves.
Unfortunately, journalism today is so blurred with entertainment that few people know the difference.
Oh, and I'm not having a go at you Angel, just explaining a point in my own thread over here... ;)
Re: Who is worse - Tafoya, Gray or Sager?
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Originally Posted by jn77
I don't think Tafoya is that bad! I think she does a prety good job, plus she is hot!
Who gives a shit about hotness when she drenches us with phlegm everytime she opens her damn mouth?
Re: Michele Tafoya is a Bitch!
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Originally Posted by gino>yourlife
the only good thing about ESPN is Rachel Nichols.. and that ain't sayin much
She's alright, but so green. She must be fresh out of journalism school.
Re: What did Tim say to Suzy Colbert?
Without seeing the interview for myself...the first question is bad because she asks it as a yes/no, but I still don't see where she injected her opinion into it by asking "Do you think...?"
Re: What did Tim say to Suzy Colbert?
She doesn't just say "do you think", she prefaces the question with information that biases the question towards a particular set of answers, and that's why Tim basically said "That's the NBA's problem, and fuck you".
Tim is admirable though - he stood there and listened to the question for what must've been 30secs (she framed it agonizingly poorly) - before giving her a clipped answer and getting out of there.
As I said, we are all so used to terrible journmotainment that no-one even notices the horrible crap that passes for journalism today.
Re: Michele Tafoya is a Bitch!
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Originally Posted by Tek_XX
She's alright, but so green. She must be fresh out of journalism school.
...or a strip club.
Re: What did Tim say to Suzy Colbert?
My problem isn't with the questions. As pop would say, "I would do the same thing if I had your [reporters/journalists] jobs."
What annoyed me a little bit was her "Fair enough" response after Tim's thoughtful, honest answer.
I hate when journalists or reporters refuse to believe the person they're interviewing and show their utter disappointment when they don't get the answer they're fishing for or want to hear.
"Fair enough"....It's not fair enough that you have that job and some more qualified, less annoying person is doing something else. Like...he gave you a damn answer. He should be in the damn locker room with his teammates but he stopped just to talk to you and answer your (pointed) question. Don't fuckin' call his answer "Fair enough." It's extremely fair, bitch.
Shoot, I would loooove Suzy Kolber...I'm sure she knows something about basketball. If not, I'm pretty sure she's a competent researcher. She's hot.
Rachel Nichols would be fine too (although I think she's over-rated). Seriously, she doesn't seem nearly as annoying and even if she slips up, her looks would make it less annoying. (I know all this about looks may be a bit superficial but it's very true, and is a big factor in tv journalism/reporting...and Suzy Kolber IS hot.)
Re: What did Tim say to Suzy Colbert?
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Originally Posted by RuffnReadyOzStyle
Good journalists do not have opinions! The first tenet of journalism is to be impartial!
Labelling Tafoya, Gray and Sager "journalists' is an insult to real journalism. They are gossip-mongers, no more.
Proper journalists lay out the facts, ask the right questions, and let the audience decide for themselves.
Unfortunately, journalism today is so blurred with entertainment that few people know the difference.
I was speaking about the opinions of the readers.
Re: Who is worse - Tafoya, Gray or Sager?
had to pay for that journalism school somehow
Re: What did Tim say to Suzy Colbert?
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Angel, I think you are missing the point. It's not that she asks the question, it's that she LOADS it up with opinion first. Good journalists ask unloaded questions, flat questions not loaded with the journalist's or anyone else's opinions. Good journalists keep their egos and opinions out of the way when interviewing, something Tafoya, Gray and Sager are incapable of because it's all about THEM, and about CONTROVERSY.
She was doing an interview, not a research paper.
I like it when reporters for television have a conversation with a player. For me, it makes the interview they are conducting more real to life and interesting. I would hate for being nitpicky about technicalities to interfere with the fun of watching sports broadcasting. Wouldn't you?
As long as reporters use proper grammar and etiquette in their interviews, and don't interview people in the middle of the game ( :lol), I am satisfied.
Re: What did Tim say to Suzy Colbert?
She is a great sideline reporter you spurs fans should not be so critical.
Re: What did Tim say to Suzy Colbert?
Re: Who is worse - Tafoya, Gray or Sager?
Free Suzy Kolber...
Rachel Nichols would be OK (slightly over-rated like umm...shawn marion???? but still ok...better than Tafoya, Gray, or Sager)
I wouldn't mind Ahmad Rashad or Bob Costas at all. Bob Costas...reminds me of NBA on NBC...
http://www.ilovewavs.com/TV/Sports/T...NBC,%20NBA.wav
gonna post that song at every opportunity...
Re: Who is worse - Tafoya, Gray or Sager?
Gray. Why? Why is he trying to be a journalist? It is entertainment. Leave the journalism to the newspapers.
Nothing wrong with Tafoya. Sager is a breath of fresh air. I like Sager, in fact. Because of the clothes. It is amusing. He doesn't push it when interviewing, but isn't a complete pushover. I liked Tafoya's interview with Tim, a little rougher than Sager, but not being a prick like Grey. Greay is like Vescy, I don't know why they have jobs.
Re: Who is worse - Tafoya, Gray or Sager?
I would say sager because he doesnt work for ABC
Re: What did Tim say to Suzy Colbert?
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Originally Posted by angel_luv
She was doing an interview, not a research paper.
I like it when reporters for television have a conversation with a player. For me, it makes the interview they are conducting more real to life and interesting. I would hate for being nitpicky about technicalities to interfere with the fun of watching sports broadcasting. Wouldn't you?
As long as reporters use proper grammar and etiquette in their interviews, and don't interview people in the middle of the game ( :lol), I am satisfied.
Well, their loaded questions, which take 3/4 of the interview to ask, let alone the fact that the interviewers are really trying to trap the interviewee into giving them a controversial soundbite, piss me off so much that it reduces my enjoyment of the telecast! So, no, can't agree.
Anyway, what I have realised is that these people ARE NOT journalists. They are glorified gossip columnists given a microphone and told to dig some dirt, so I guess I have to let them off the hook. However, there should be a disclaimer on the screen while they do their interviews which states:
"Attention! This is not journalism. The opinions of the interviewer will be interposed on the interview." :lol
I'm obviously the only one who feels that way so I'll leave it at that.
Re: What did Tim say to Suzy Colbert?
See this is what I was advocating- opinions and discussion. Caring and sharing.
Yes I am deliriously tired. :)
I was tired when I went to sleep- ended up doing so too early which is why I am awake at this hour when I have to be awake again by 8:15 am. :dizzy
Re: What did Tim say to Suzy Colbert?
Good night / morning :) all
Re: Who is worse - Tafoya, Gray or Sager?
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Originally Posted by Agloco
Larry Merchant is the biggest idiot of all time IMO.
I don't know. He must be living a charmed life. I always got fired from my jobs when I showed up drunk every day.
Re: What did Tim say to Suzy Colbert?
They are just commentators and sideline reporters, not investigative journalists or even writers. I didn't see anything wrong with the question she asked and I didn't think she injected her own opinion in it. Considering it was the topic on every website, newspaper, tv, radio broadcast in the country that was covering the series, I wouldn't have expected her to NOT ask about the series being tainted.
