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Re: How will Manu feel, Part II
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Originally Posted by rob5
using your analogy, why don't we try starting Beno and bring Tony off the bench. Maybe he'll get 25/12
I know you're kidding, but in all seriousness Beno has been pretty decent this year in the games Tony was out injured. He had some good games against Houston, Memphis and Portland.
But yeah... I think I'll stick with Tony. Barely. :depressed
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Re: How will Manu feel, Part II
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Originally Posted by Alamode
...to be left out of the prestigious starter introductions on the world's biggest stage? When the Spurs show their finals video of players does his picture now come in sixth since the starters are higlighted first? Being called "one of the big three" but being introduced as an afterthought is sh*tty. It's like doing a lot of work with little recognition.
You can say, "who cares, he probably doesn't," but, that still has to suck to be relegated to being a bench player in the freakin' finals when he was starting in the finals a mere two years ago.
No need to suggest that the current system is working, it's obvious, I just think it has to annoy him to appear 'demoted' (esp. to the casual finals fan.) No matter what he says, everyone has an ego and his has been shot down for these finals.
I know, I know, "who cares as long as they win the series." I just had to offer one other possible reason why he looked so pissed at the Western Conference ceremony. :p:
ok, now you're posting just to post.
and... he looked pissed at the western conference championship ceremony?
goddamn you people are lame
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Re: How will Manu feel, Part II
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Originally Posted by BeerIsGood!
Because the Spurs are usually against having the PG commit 10 turnovers and getting the ball stuck on the rim in the 1st 5 minutes resulting in a nice double digit deficit to start the game.
getting the ball stuck on the rim...hey that's hard to do! :toast
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Re: How will Manu feel, Part II
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Originally Posted by rob5
getting the ball stuck on the rim...hey that's hard to do! :toast
That's the one area where Beno has Jordan, Magic, Bird, and TD beaten. Or at least tied.
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Re: How will Manu feel, Part II
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I just think it has to annoy him to appear 'demoted' (esp. to the casual finals fan.)
If there is anything that Manu cares about more than the perception of the casual finals fan, I haven't seen it yet.
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Re: How will Manu feel, Part II
I would love to see Manu put on a performance that would warrant him being voted MVP.
That would be great to add to his already impressive resume.
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Re: How will Manu feel, Part II
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Originally Posted by aaronstampler
I strongly doubt Manu will get Finals MVP. He'd probably have to outscore Tim by 10 points per game to do it. There is nothing wrong with this, Tim is the team's (and the league's) best player. He deserves every accolade he gets and deserved several that he hasn't gotten.
Seriously though, if Manu didn't get it in '05, when he was the team's best player in 3 of the 4 wins, he's never going to get it. He can't play any better than he played that year.
Who ever gets the finals MVP will be:on the winners team and will have the best Stats numbers most likely,and Manu,like any other player in the finals has a chance to win it,regardless on who is the best player of the league SO FAR.So if Manu does play like vs the suns,he has a shot to ¨finally¨win the finals MVP aword
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Re: How will Manu feel, Part II
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Originally Posted by Alamode[B
]...to be left out of the prestigious starter introductions on the world's biggest stage?[/B] When the Spurs show their finals video of players does his picture now come in sixth since the starters are higlighted first? Being called "one of the big three" but being introduced as an afterthought is sh*tty. It's like doing a lot of work with little recognition.
You can say, "who cares, he probably doesn't," but, that still has to suck to be relegated to being a bench player in the freakin' finals when he was starting in the finals a mere two years ago.
No need to suggest that the current system is working, it's obvious, I just think it has to annoy him to appear 'demoted' (esp. to the casual finals fan.) No matter what he says, everyone has an ego and his has been shot down for these finals.
I know, I know, "who cares as long as they win the series." I just had to offer one other possible reason why he looked so pissed at the Western Conference ceremony. :p:
He'll probably be relieved as that NBA finals spotlight would really show off his big ol' bald spot.
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Re: How will Manu feel, Part II
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Originally Posted by mabber
He'll probably be relieved as that NBA finals spotlight would really show off his big ol' bald spot.
too bad dirk wont be able to show off his ugly teeth in the finals. :lol
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Re: How will Manu feel, Part II
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Originally Posted by ArgSpursFan
too bad dirk wont be able to show off his ugly teeth in the finals. :lol
He got to show those fake things off last year :p:
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Re: How will Manu feel, Part II
You know, there is always something to complain about, isn't there?
Manu starts and people complain that he doesn't get the ball enough, because he's out there for most of the time with Timmy and Tony. Manu doesn't start, but plays the same minutes and has the same role and gets the ball more often because he's out there as the primary playmaker/scoring option, and people complain because he's not a starter.
You can't have it both ways, and there are benefits to the team with Manu coming off the bench - Finley/Barry's improved play, improved bench productivity, the ability to stay in games and rest others longer because there isn't such a drop off.
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Re: How will Manu feel, Part II
:p:
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Originally Posted by easjer
You know, there is always something to complain about, isn't there?
Manu starts and people complain that he doesn't get the ball enough, because he's out there for most of the time with Timmy and Tony. Manu doesn't start, but plays the same minutes and has the same role and gets the ball more often because he's out there as the primary playmaker/scoring option, and people complain because he's not a starter.
You can't have it both ways, and there are benefits to the team with Manu coming off the bench - Finley/Barry's improved play, improved bench productivity, the ability to stay in games and rest others longer because there isn't such a drop off.
you´re right lets bench TP. :p:
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Re: How will Manu feel, Part II
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Originally Posted by spursgrl20
The Detroit announcer says "Rosha" instead of Rasho...
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Re: How will Manu feel, Part II
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and... he looked pissed at the western conference championship ceremony?
actually he didn't look to happy or really wasn't into celebrating with the others. I even noticed that Tim tried to push him in there but it didn't work :lol
http://www.lanacion.com.ar/anexos/imagen/07/673113.jpg
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Re: How will Manu feel, Part II
I bet He was already thinking about the NBA finals.
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Re: How will Manu feel, Part II
As my coach used to say, it ain't about who starts but who finishes.
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Re: How will Manu feel, Part II
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Originally Posted by thispego
ok, now you're posting just to post.
Um, no. But thanks for the warm thought.
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Re: How will Manu feel, Part II
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Originally Posted by ArgSpursFan
Who ever gets the finals MVP will be:on the winners team and will have the best Stats numbers most likely,and Manu,like any other player in the finals has a chance to win it,regardless on who is the best player of the league SO FAR.So if Manu does play like vs the suns,he has a shot to ¨finally¨win the finals MVP aword
Hopefully Manu doesn't play like he did versus the Suns. The Spurs need him to show up for more than half the series.
As far as the 2005 MVP goes, I still can't believe fans can't get over it. Duncan easily deserved it. If the award was called "Best Offense Player During The Finals Games That Were Played At Home", then yeah Manu should have won that award hands down.
As far as what this thread is about ... the thread starter must not understand how Manu works. He's Tim Duncan-esque as far as not caring out recognition. He doesn't GAF if he gets the credit, the limelight, the accolades or anything like that. Manu just wants to win. That's it.
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Re: How will Manu feel, Part II
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Originally Posted by timvp
... the thread starter must not understand how Manu works. He's Tim Duncan-esque as far as not caring out recognition. He doesn't GAF if he gets the credit, the limelight, the accolades or anything like that. Manu just wants to win. That's it.
Yep
Yep.
Pop has said that Manu is the fiercest competitor that he has ever been around in all his years. Manu could care less if he gets credit or not, as long as they win.
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Re: How will Manu feel, Part II
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Originally Posted by timvp
Hopefully Manu doesn't play like he did versus the Suns. The Spurs need him to show up for more than half the series.
As far as the 2005 MVP goes, I still can't believe fans can't get over it. Duncan easily deserved it. If the award was called "Best Offense Player During The Finals Games That Were Played At Home", then yeah Manu should have won that award hands down.
As far as what this thread is about ... the thread starter must not understand how Manu works. He's Tim Duncan-esque as far as not caring out recognition. He doesn't GAF if he gets the credit, the limelight, the accolades or anything like that. Manu just wants to win. That's it.
True.The team needs him 110% focused for the whole series.At the same time we all know that manu lives and makes his paycheck out of these kind of games.Hopefully He´ll find the way to do something positive(scoring or rebounding or asisting or stealing) in order to get another ring.
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Re: How will Manu feel, Part II
If Manu plays like he did in the first few games of the Jazz series, then the Finals will be ugly.
You know Timmay and TP will show up.
Could you imagine if TP got to have a hurt Hughes, Eric Snow, and a rookie try and guard him? Not to mention Drew Gooden on Duncan. That would be 100x better than Billups and Sheed/McDyess.
Manu might not matter in a series against Cleveland.
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Re: How will Manu feel, Part II
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Originally Posted by timvp
Hopefully Manu doesn't play like he did versus the Suns. The Spurs need him to show up for more than half the series.
As far as the 2005 MVP goes, I still can't believe fans can't get over it. Duncan easily deserved it. If the award was called "Best Offense Player During The Finals Games That Were Played At Home", then yeah Manu should have won that award hands down.
As far as what this thread is about ... the thread starter must not understand how Manu works. He's Tim Duncan-esque as far as not caring out recognition. He doesn't GAF if he gets the credit, the limelight, the accolades or anything like that. Manu just wants to win. That's it.
I think Manu fans will be disappointed because Manu will only go apeshit, when he sees the team struggling. I think he'll play well, but not anything insane or anything like that. This team has everyone pitching in, even moreso than 2005 .
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As far as the 2005 MVP goes, I still can't believe fans can't get over it. Duncan easily deserved it. If the award was called "Best Offense Player During The Finals Games That Were Played At Home", then yeah Manu should have won that award hands down.
I still think it could have gone either way. Manu singlehandedly was responsible for some wins just as much as Tim. It's not like Manu can compete with Tim defensively, but his crafty steals and defensive plays come in handy for a SG.
Hypothetically, If Manu does have a great Finals performance, I don't see a problem with him winning it, because on the 80's Laker teams, though Magic was the best player, it got passed around a couple times.
But it doesn't really matter, I want to see everyone play well.
Some Spurs fans are spoiled for Manu, can you imagine if Tim or Manu, thought the same way some of us do? It'd be a repeat of the Lakers 2004 Finals implosion.
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Re: How will Manu feel, Part II
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Originally Posted by Corn on the Colb
If Manu plays like he did in the first few games of the Jazz series, then the Finals will be ugly.
You know Timmay and TP will show up.
Could you imagine if TP got to have a hurt Hughes, Eric Snow, and a rookie try and guard him? Not to mention Drew Gooden on Duncan. That would be 100x better than Billups and Sheed/McDyess.
Manu might not matter in a series against Cleveland.
What make you think manu may not show up?
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Re: How will Manu feel, Part II
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Originally Posted by ALVAREZ6
The Detroit announcer says "Rosha" instead of Rasho...
He also calls both Manu, and Tony, basketball "gods" from Argentina, and France.
(or it least that's what it sounded like, :lol)
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Re: How will Manu feel, Part II
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Originally Posted by ArgSpursFan
What make you think manu may not show up?
Did I say that he wouldn't?
People are saying they hope he doesn't play like he did in the beginning of the Suns series.
So I simply made an argument that it might not even matter if he plays terribly or brilliantly with the matchups that the Spurs would have against the Cavs.
Read the post again or something.
