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McDyess will not face additional discipline from league
McDyess will not face additional discipline from league
McDyess received a flagrant-2 foul after he unexpectedly clotheslined Varejao under the basket and was ejected. On Friday, league spokesman Tim Frank said McDyess will not face any more discipline.
That's good news for the Pistons, who trail the Cavs 3-2 in the Eastern Conference finals going into Saturday's Game 6 at Quicken Loans Arena. One of Detroit's top reserves, McDyess played just four minutes in the Pistons' 109-107 double-overtime loss.
McDyess' hard foul on Varejao drew a passionate response from Cleveland's LeBron James, who jumped over his fallen teammate and tried to confront McDyess as the referees and other players tried to keep order.
James was given a technical foul for charging after McDyess.
McDyess' ejection forced Pistons coach Flip Saunders to alter his rotations and he had to play Jason Maxiell and Dale Davis more than usual. James was able to exploit Maxiell, twice driving around the second-year forward for dunks down the stretch on his way to a career playoff-high 48 points.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/print...248&type=story
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That's it. If the league wanted to place Lebron in the finals, they surely would have suspended him. No more conspiracy talk - it's all down to basketball now.
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If Detroit comes back from 3-2, you think losers like fast dunk will blame Stern for not suspending McDyess?
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I don't think he deserved a suspension. It wasn't that bad anyway. He didn't get his neck or head, just his right shoulder and left arm... lifeguards do the same shit every day.
Anyway, now Detroit has a chance for game 6. Without McDyess, they have no depth down low. Oh wait, Nazr!!! I forgot. Nevermind.
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Just goes to show that you can beat the shit out of your opponent and get a slap on the wrist. What's the flagrant count up to now? 9 or 10 with one suspension? Thats the problem, a lame rule(suns) gets a suspension but a foul that could cause serious harm doesn't. Can we start calling the league the WWE now?
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Originally Posted by BeerIsGood!
That's it. If the league wanted to place Lebron in the finals, they surely would have suspended him. No more conspiracy talk - it's all down to basketball now.
McDyess is not even top 5 player in Pistons :rolleyes
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Originally Posted by RJF08
Just goes to show that you can beat the shit out of your opponent and get a slap on the wrist. What's the flagrant count up to now? 9 or 10 with one suspension? Thats the problem, a lame rule(suns) gets a suspension but a foul that could cause serious harm doesn't. Can we start calling the league the WWE now?
The whole Cavs bench staid on the bench during their altercation, why couldnt the Suns?
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So any blow in the neck/head area is automatically "clotheslining" now??
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Originally Posted by mardigan
The whole Cavs bench staid on the bench during their altercation, why couldnt the Suns?
bears repeating.
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Originally Posted by RJF08
Just goes to show that you can beat the shit out of your opponent and get a slap on the wrist. What's the flagrant count up to now? 9 or 10 with one suspension? Thats the problem, a lame rule(suns) gets a suspension but a foul that could cause serious harm doesn't. Can we start calling the league the WWE now?
Ask Rudy Tomjanovich if he was in serious harm while he was lying on the floor with spinal fluid draining into his mouth.
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Originally Posted by BeerIsGood!
That's it. If the league wanted to place Lebron in the finals, they surely would have suspended him. No more conspiracy talk - it's all down to basketball now.
The way it should be.
Has it been discussed in the conspiracy conversations that the Spurs are actually good for Stern's global reach? (Sorry if I missed it, I couldn't find it anywhere and search is turned off.)
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Originally Posted by duncan228
The way it should be.
Has it been discussed in the conspiracy conversations that the Spurs are actually good for Stern's global reach? (Sorry if I missed it, I couldn't find it anywhere and search is turned off.)
If so, a quick mention of Utah beating Houston would shut them up.
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And btw, McDyess foul was much, much harder than Horry's foul
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I'm not saying what's right and what's wrong, but I think there were different things that were taken into consideration. And, Charles alluded to this last night, but McDyess' flagrant happened in the first quarter and he was ejected. Horry's flagrant happened at the end of the game. McDyess got a de facto suspension for last night's game. Horry's ejection cost him a few seconds of game 4. Not saying that's right or wrong to consider, just that it was probably considered when determining whether there should have been a suspension or not.
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Originally Posted by JamStone
I'm not saying what's right and what's wrong, but I think there were different things that were taken into consideration. And, Charles alluded to this last night, but McDyess' flagrant happened in the first quarter and he was ejected. Horry's flagrant happened at the end of the game. McDyess got a de facto suspension for last night's game. Horry's ejection cost him a few seconds of game 4. Not saying that's right or wrong to consider, just that it was probably considered when determining whether there should have been a suspension or not.
Horry got two games because Stoudemire and Diaw didn't stay on the bench.
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Originally Posted by BeerIsGood!
Horry got two games because Stoudemire and Diaw didn't stay on the bench.
:clap
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dude was thrown out in the beginning of the game and missed 3 full qts and 2 OT
his absence cost the Pistons 1 game, makes no sense to further punish him
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Originally Posted by BeerIsGood!
Horry got two games because Stoudemire and Diaw didn't stay on the bench.
And thus it's SAS in the Finals instead of Utah or Phx.
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Originally Posted by RJF08
And thus it's SAS in the Finals instead of Utah or Phx.
If you say so. Whatever soothes your hurties.
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Originally Posted by RJF08
And thus it's SAS in the Finals instead of Utah or Phx.
Who was suspended from Utah?
You guys were the ones whining about Vacations...didn't even want to win... :oink
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Originally Posted by RJF08
And thus it's SAS in the Finals instead of Utah or Phx.
You make people think that Jazz fans are dumb with statements like this.
So....uh....stop.
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Well, I'm glad for the Pistons and McDyess that he was not suspended, given that I don't think it was an intention to hurt. But it does solidify my belief that Horry's suspensions were total crap and makeup overtures. Others may disagree, which is fine; I don't wish to debate the merit of my opinion on this particular topic, since it is now firmly irrelevant.
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The F2 on McD was bullshit. A suspension would have been a travesty.
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Originally Posted by easjer
Well, I'm glad for the Pistons and McDyess that he was not suspended, given that I don't think it was an intention to hurt. But it does solidify my belief that Horry's suspensions were total crap and makeup overtures. Others may disagree, which is fine; I don't wish to debate the merit of my opinion on this particular topic, since it is now firmly irrelevant.
Although it is irrelevant, I totally agree with you. Even if, as Barkley argued, McDyess served a de facto suspension because he missed most of the game, Horry served a two game suspension. IMHO his hip check was even less suspension-worthy than the clothesline move by McDyess.
I like the Pistons, I like McDyess, and I'm glad that he didn't get suspended, but it makes the Horry matter look like complete bullshit.
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Originally Posted by Corn on the Colb
You make people think that Jazz fans are dumb with statements like this.
So....uh....stop.
How do you figure? The Suns, barring the suspensions, very well could have, and in my mind WOULD have, beaten the Spurs in 7 games. Given our matchups with them it's wouldn't be beyond the realm of possibility that Utah would have beaten them. Shoulda, coulda, woulda, I know but I don't get to see my tem til November so I need something to pass the time.
Do you post on a jazz board anywhere or just here? Just wondering.
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Originally Posted by BreezeHillBill
If you say so. Whatever soothes your hurties.
Ya'll won game 1 because Nash missed the last 45 seconds, lucky break. Game 2 got the shit kicked outta you. Game 3 is a 7 point win. Infamous game 4 Suns win at SAS. Without 2 starters(37 pts) Suns get gassed and can't pull it off.
You got a fluke win in game one and got bailed out by Amare's and Diaw's stupidity. Jazz would beat the Suns, like they did all season.
And dont make fun of my hurties damnit! :lol
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McDyess' foul was WAY worse than Horry's. It was a blow to the head area, and it was made while the player was in the air. Horry's was neither.
This makes it crystal clear that Horry was suspended only because they were suspending Amare and Diaw, and there would have been even more of an outcry than there was if Horry was not suspended.
If Amare and Diaw didn't stupidly come off the bench, Horry would not have been suspended. Certainly not for 2 games.
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Originally Posted by YoMamaIsCallin
McDyess' foul was WAY worse than Horry's. It was a blow to the head area, and it was made while the player was in the air. Horry's was neither.
This makes it crystal clear that Horry was suspended only because they were suspending Amare and Diaw, and there would have been even more of an outcry than there was if Horry was not suspended.
If Amare and Diaw didn't stupidly come off the bench, Horry would not have been suspended. Certainly not for 2 games.
I think you are forgetting that Horry threw an elbow at Raja's face, so that is where one suspension came from. I'm not sure of the rule on flagrant two fouls, but what McDyess did last night should have been a suspension if they called a suspension on Horry for the elbow at Raja's face. McDyess's action looked dangerous to me, especially the way Varejo(sp?) landed while he was in the air. I would just like consistency in the way they decide what act is a suspension or isn't.
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Dyess didn't deserve and ejection. Now, because the refs don't get replay, a flagrant two was a good call. One shouldn't be wrapping somebody's neck in their arm. But you have to admit, Sideshow is quite the flopper.
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Originally Posted by RJF08
How do you figure? The Suns, barring the suspensions, very well could have, and in my mind WOULD have, beaten the Spurs in 7 games. Given our matchups with them it's wouldn't be beyond the realm of possibility that Utah would have beaten them.
Sorry, but that is possibly the most ridiculous shit ever. You're bitching about something that happened between the Spurs and Suns, because the Suns (in your mind) would have beaten the Spurs, and you would have been able to beat the Suns? You think the Suns were the better team, but them you could have beaten?
What do you think? The Suns would have lost their composure when the Jazz fans started throwing shit on the court? Maybe the Jazz players had mentally prepared to go home early, because they knew they couldn't beat the Suns - and couldn't get back into gear when the Spurs got handed that series?
It reminds me of that George Karl interview where he said that they should have won 1 more game, then they could have come back and won games 5 and 6. I swear, some of you are just like dogs that have to go around pissing on things.
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Originally Posted by Nashfan
I think you are forgetting that Horry threw an elbow at Raja's face, so that is where one suspension came from.
They said that, but it's bogus. It was just to justify the suspension. If you look at the tape, he did not "throw" an elbow. Bell came rushing at him and he put his arm up to ward him off. If anyone should have been suspended for that it should have been Bell. He didn't even get a tech.
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I'm not sure of the rule on flagrant two fouls, but what McDyess did last night should have been a suspension if they called a suspension on Horry for the elbow at Raja's face. McDyess's action looked dangerous to me, especially the way Varejo(sp?) landed while he was in the air. I would just like consistency in the way they decide what act is a suspension or isn't.
Exactly my point. It simply points out that the Horry suspension was a make-up call because they had to suspend Amare and Diaw.
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Originally Posted by YoMamaIsCallin
he did not "throw" an elbow. Bell came rushing at him and he put his arm up to ward him off. If anyone should have been suspended for that it should have been Bell.
EXACTLY. He walked on that one -- lucky stiff. Bell deserved some shit for rushing into Horry's face like that.
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It simply points out that the Horry suspension was a make-up call because they had to suspend Amare and Diaw.
Regardless of what some whiny Suns fans are still bitching about -- the Spurs would have still beaten down the Suns without Nashie's boo-boo and the suspensions. With the exception of one game (in which the Spurs actually kicked their own ass), beating the Suns with Nash, Stoudemire and Diaw in the game was just too easy.