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Originally Posted by Buddy Holly
Thats what I'm saying. If we gear our defense to stop the other players around James. Like you said we geared our D to slow Mash which worked. Just let James get his scoring wise. We just can't let him score, AND dish out 15 assist. Then we will be in hot water. I just hope Parker, Manu and Tim can score against them.
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Originally Posted by Buddy Holly
The Bucks aren't good enough to make the Finals...
The Cavs are.
Figure it out.
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Originally Posted by whottt
The Spurs have taken the Cavs about as seriously as the Bucks...the East might be just THAT weak. You figure it out.
Really, so you didn't sense the sarcasism?Quote:
Originally Posted by whottt
The Cavs are in the finals, yes we all know this. They deserve to be there, yes we all know this.
But your argument for why Bowen can't guard Lebron is weak.
No...it's also the games where he gets 10 assists or 10 boards or 8 and 8 with 4 or 5 steals.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buddy Holly
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So then how do you go and make the statement that Bowen can't defend him? If we can get Lebron to have just good games, the Spurs sweep the Cavs.
LeBron is getting better and better....it's not a vacum...he's a better player now than he was before these playoffs began. And the Cavs are not a one man team...you guys just don't know basketball.
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Originally Posted by Buddy Holly
No my argument for why he cannot guard him is not weak...
Your arrogance and assumption that this is going to be a cakwalk is weak and lazy...
This aint fucking Utah here.
LeBron's going to get his. That's okay, and the Spurs can win even with that.
The matchup I'm most worried about is Ilgauskas. He's exactly the kind of center who gives the Spurs problems: huge, not very mobile, but can hit from outside. Hopefully the Cavs will still run that uggggglyoffense and not develop some plays with team ball movement.
The Cavs' athleticism will also be a problem, and the Spurs will have to use the same magic that kept Utah from killing them on the boards.
Here's a thought - you can double Lebron without leaving Gibson or Hughes. The only time you should double is on his penetration, and at that point the weak side defenders need to rotate leaving Lebron with a very difficult pass across court. The Spurs do it better than anyone and recover better than anyone in the league. No one will stop him, but the Spurs will make him work his ass off for everything he gets, and that will wear the Cavs down over the series. It's no secret with the Spurs - use all 48 to win and wear down the opponent. Everyone so far has gotten worn down - Denver, Phoenix, Utah. That's why the Spurs close out game is usually a pretty good margin of victory.
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Originally Posted by easjer
:lol The Jesus thing was funny. I think Whott ws making the point that Cleveland plays very good defense as well. But on the offensive end of the floor I feel alot better playing against James and scrubs who can only hit when wide open, than Phx & Den. But like I said I haven't a clue on the Cavs D except for that Whott says it is good.
And just how does Bowen stop him from getting assists and steals? :dramaqueeQuote:
Originally Posted by whottt
No one has said otherwise.Quote:
LeBron is getting better and better....it's not a vacum...he's a better player now than he was before these playoffs began.
Um, yes they are. Oh wait, one game speaks for an entire playoffs, huh?Quote:
And the Cavs are not a one man team...
It's Lebron and a bunch of other guys who can either make a shot or not, and on most nights it's a not.
Says the person who dismissed Bowen as a defender and then used Lebrons assists and steals to prove it. :clapQuote:
you guys just don't know basketball.
Just like pheonix in 05 let the main guy get his and shut down everyone else.
An easy way to beat the Cavs is let Lebron score 50 points, but have everybody else score like 2.
Utah's matchup frontline of Boozer, Okur, and Kirilenko was scarier than this matchup. There is absolutely no reason why the Spurs should have dominated that front line and hung in there on the boards - but they did through disciplined play within the system.Quote:
Originally Posted by whottt
Don't underestimate how good Phoenix's defense was this year. They hung in there tight on defense, but the Spurs wore them down.
Sorry, it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by whottt
I know you think you're the man because you attend rec league basketball games, but no, you're not.
Explain, wait, quote me, where in this thread I said it would be a cakewalk. Please, do so.Quote:
Your arrogance and assumption that this is going to be a cakwalk is weak and lazy...
If Utah were in the east they'd be in the finals. But I agree, Cleveland isn't Utah.Quote:
This aint fucking Utah here.
I wish search was enabled....
Because I've had this arument routinely every time we play the Cavs for the last 2 years...
Their regular season success against us, is not a fluke. It's not a letdown, it's not us taking them lightly...it's because they know how to play us, and have the personnel to do it.
Beginning with their coach, and their GM...who they hand picked from the Spurs...
And ya'll act like those guys aren't even aware the Spurs play in the NBA.
They know us inside and out...and that's why they've had the success against us that they have...
Just like Nelly and the Mavs.
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Originally Posted by florige
Whott keeps arguing a couple of things, and I am primarily talking about his arguments about LeBron v Bruce.
Cavs do play defense, and maybe better D than we've seen from anyone else in the playoffs (but I'll believe it when I see it - Denver and Utah were supposed to be huge defensive threats too). But Cavs D better than Detriot's 2005 D? Don't think so. And we have improved offense since then and have more threats and more reliable threats. If the ball is being moved well and enough screens are set, we can get around good D.
It's like did anyone see all the crap AJ gave us last season...because he knows the Spurs and Pop?
This is worse...these guy knows the Spurs better than AJ does, and they have a Superstar that gives us bigger matchup problems than Dirk does.
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Originally Posted by Trainwreck2100
As long as Stern and his henchmen exist, you're not going to beat the cavs.....not with a guy name LeBron on it.
Z is gonna have big trouble with Parker and Manu if the officiating is consistent. He's big and strong but his footwork is questionable at best. Spurs will spread the floor and Cleveland won't be able to pack the lane like they did with Detroit. He can't hurt us if he's sitting on the bench in foul trouble.
Yeah, regular season games are exactly what anyone should expect to see in the playoffs. Brillance again.Quote:
Originally Posted by whottt
Well no, they hand picked their coach from Indiana.Quote:
Beginning with their coach, and their GM...who they hand picked from the Spurs...
And yeah, Flip > Pop
No contest.
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They know us inside and out...and that's why they've had the success against us that they have...
You're just god like with your takes. :clapQuote:
Just like Nelly and the Mavs.
Mavs also had an entire team that was capable of stopping the Spurs and beating the Spurs in addition to corporate knowledge. They were designed that way and Spurs had the mismatch issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by whottt
We are mismatched against LeBron, but the rest of his team can't beat us like the Mavs did.
Besides, I don't think there is much secret about what the Spurs do. They've been consistently doing it for awhile now. Corporate knowledge isn't going to help that much.
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