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Re: Ok, How do you beat the Cavaliers?
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Originally Posted by whottt
It's like did anyone see all the crap AJ gave us last season...because he knows the Spurs and Pop?
I thought it was small ball that killed us, well atleast that's what you couldn't stop whining about, not Avery and his half decade old inside knowledge.
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This is worse...these guy knows the Spurs better than AJ does, and they have a Superstar that gives us bigger matchup problems than Dirk does.
I'd think any coach in the NBA that reviews tape and studies teams basically knows what the Spurs do. No great inside detail to it.
What exactly on the inside does Brown or Ferry know that would hurt us?
They like to give the ball to Timmy every odd number minute of every second full moon on the 3rd day, so watch out for that.
Brown and Ferry knowing the Spurs on the inside is like an insider for a tobacco company coming out and saying "Hey, my company tries to use clever advertising to get younger people to start smoking." Everyone goes, "yeah, duh."
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Re: Ok, How do you beat the Cavaliers?
No...it was Dirk Nowitski that killed us...
Bruce couldn't guard him...yeah he got some stops and his moments...but he couldn't guard him.
LeBron is worse, the Cavs know us better, they have a better C, they play a better playoff style of ball, and they don't choke like the Mavs...and yes, the Mavs choked against us last season in game 7...we just outchoked them.
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Re: Ok, How do you beat the Cavaliers?
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Originally Posted by whottt
No...it was Dirk Nowitski that killed us...
Well fucking get it straight then.
It's small ball one minute the next it's Avery and now it's the pathetic MVP.
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LeBron is worse, the Cavs know us better, they have a better C, they play a better playoff style of ball, and they don't choke like the Mavs...and yes, the Mavs choked against us last season in game 7...we just outchoked them.
You just like to hear yourself talk, don't ya.
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Re: Ok, How do you beat the Cavaliers?
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Originally Posted by slayermin
I think rebounding will be the key to winning this series.
Good point sherlock...i think rebounding is key in any series. :lol
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Re: Ok, How do you beat the Cavaliers?
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Originally Posted by Buddy Holly
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That was your first mistake...
You also think regular season success is no indication of playofff succes...which is false...look at the Warriors VS the Mavs this year.
It's starting you right there in your face, and you cling to stuipidity as if it is a virtue. It isn't...
You guys act like the Spurs are some unstoppable powerhouse...they aren't. Were you watching last season?
We have bypassed teams we matchup badly with this entire playoff run...and we haven't looked that great. Utah is not that good.
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Re: Ok, How do you beat the Cavaliers?
dang Whott...
You should change you avatar to "witness" with a nike slash under it.
get a grip, man.
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Re: Ok, How do you beat the Cavaliers?
I agree w/ Whottt. Bowen will have a hard time containing James, because Bowen has a hard time against players stronger than him. Deron Williams was a bulk player and he went off against the Spurs, Carmelo averaged 27 against the Spurs and he was stronger than Bowen. The Suns didn't have any big SF/SG's. Obviously, Lebron is stronger than Bowen and in the season series he averaged 27 PPG on 49 percent shooting.
But if James is contained to 27 PPG in the series then the Spurs will sweep. At most this series should end in 6 games.
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Re: Ok, How do you beat the Cavaliers?
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Originally Posted by whottt
That was your first mistake...
You also think regular season success is no indication of playofff succes...which is false...look at the Warriors VS the Mavs this year.
And would you like to offer any other recent examples? I know the Warriors-Mavs thing was fairly recent so it's still wet on your brain, but besides them, any others?
I guess when most NBA players say the regular season doesn't matter, you the almighty know the real truth.
Instead of attending your local YMCA's rec league game or whatever reject academy basketball game you're scouting, why aren't you coaching in the NBA dispensing this stuff?
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It's starting you right there in your face, and you cling to stuipidity as if it is a virtue. It isn't...
Yeah, so you're still avoiding the whole, Bowen can't defend Lebron from asisting and stealing. :clap
You're right, it is a virtue.
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You guys act like the Spurs are some unstoppable powerhouse...they aren't. Were you watching last season?
Quote me, quote me.
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Re: Ok, How do you beat the Cavaliers?
This isn't last year.
Again, no one is saying they will sweep. But if the pick up where they left off, they will be playing, as a team, a much higher level of basketball than I have seen the Cavs play.
So they beat us in the regular season - so what? In some cases, it is indicative of something; in this case, it is not. Go back and study the games and tell me what is the same with the teams.
The Spurs are better than they were when they were playing last year and better than they were in November and in January.
Would you just like to hand the trophy over to the Cavs now, and spare yourself the pain? Damn, you make it sound like there is nothing that can be done, and it's not even at that level of worst case scenario.
There are some scary things, but nothing that can't be avoided, adjusted or dealt with. I think you harp on this shit over and over just so that you can later say you were right and have something to cling to in the midst of a depression if we lose. And if we win, you think no one will care about your defeatist attitude.
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Re: Ok, How do you beat the Cavaliers?
My bad...
No sense attempting an intelligent discussion with all the fucking homers here.
Spurs sweep.
Go Spurs Go...
Buddy Holly is a winner.
Happy now?
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Re: Ok, How do you beat the Cavaliers?
I haven't read the previous 4 pages, so some of what I say may be repetative.
The Spurs have 3 things the Pistons did not....which greatly hindered us.
Speed. Athleticism/ability to create. Post scoring.
Parker will kill Hughes with his speed. Billups is used to using his size as an advantage. He wasn't able to do that this time. He couldn't back him down or shoot over him. He also is a very slow PG. He couldn't effectively break down the D by getting to the hole like Parker can. Parkers speed will be just as effective against BooBie.
Manu's ability to create and get in the lane will pay huge dividends. He'll get knocked down a bunch by Gooden and Verajo. But as long as he keeps attacking he'll be fine. We didn't have anyone who could get to the hole like he can.
Duncan will kill their interior. Again, something the Pistons don't have, as Sheed more often shoots from outside.
Plus the outside shooting and the more dependable and physical D will give them hell.
I believe the Pistons worried too much about Bron (except for the last 15 minutes of game 5....) Tonights game was a perfect example. We doubled, trapped and sometimes tripled Bron only to see BooBie hit 3's all night long. Play him up straight, but also stay in front of the role players. Who cares if Bron scores 50 if everyone else only scores 10. And he's often very passive, mainly looking to dish the ball.
Rebounding will be important. Box the fuck out, and limit their second chance points.
Beware of Verajo. He'll sometimes get lucky with his J, but the big thing with him, is that he's always active. He brings energy. He also doesn't back down. He's not scared to be physical. And of course he'll get crazy whistles with his flopping.
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Re: Ok, How do you beat the Cavaliers?
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Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
dang Whott...
You should change you avatar to "witness" with a nike slash under it.
get a grip, man.
He is a witness, he goes to whatever 100 seat gym is hosting a whose whose of NBA rejects game so he can then absorb as much as possible so in time he can come here and talk down to people who don't get to witness that stuff. You should be more humble kid, you're in the sight of greatness.
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Re: Ok, How do you beat the Cavaliers?
Another huge factor, is that the Pistons were the Cavs goal. We were their target. They needed to get past us as their next baby step. Now that they've achieved it, there will be a let down.
They also gained confidence against us. from last year, and each game this year. They won't have the same confidence against the Spurs....unless you give them reason to.
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Re: Ok, How do you beat the Cavaliers?
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Originally Posted by whottt
My bad...
No sense attempting an intelligent discussion with all the fucking homers here.
Spurs sweep.
Go Spurs Go...
Buddy Holly is a winner.
Happy now?
Yeah, real intelligent discussion. Have you figure out a way to get Bowen t defend Lebron better? You know, so he doesn't asist on shots and steal balls or rebound.
We have the technology...
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Re: Ok, How do you beat the Cavaliers?
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Originally Posted by whottt
My bad...
No sense attempting an intelligent discussion with all the fucking homers here.
Spurs sweep.
Go Spurs Go...
Buddy Holly is a winner.
Happy now?
Nah man it nots like that. You make valid points. I just hope that we don't see a replay of the GS-Dal thing. I think our X-factor should be Pop. And I also think that AJ is alot smarter than Brown.
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Re: Ok, How do you beat the Cavaliers?
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Originally Posted by Buddy Holly
Yeah, real intelligent discussion. Have you figure out a way to get Bowen t defend Lebron better? You know, so he doesn't asist on shots and steal balls or rebound.
We have the technology...
What?
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Re: Ok, How do you beat the Cavaliers?
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Originally Posted by whottt
What?
What?
Really, you respond with what? Like you forgot what you just posted?
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Re: Ok, How do you beat the Cavaliers?
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Originally Posted by florige
Nah man it nots like that. You make valid points. I just hope that we don't see a replay of the GS-Dal thing. I think our X-factor should be Pop. And I also think that AJ is alot smarter than Brown.
The biggest reason you won't see a replay is that Mike Brown is not the guy who formed Duncan into the player that he is. He may know a lot about Duncan, but he didn't mold him. Nellie molded Dirk. Nellie was probably the only person on the planet who could neutralize him that effectively.
Additionally, there were more than 1 matchup problems for the Mavs. They didn't have the ability to go as small and athletic as GS. Sort of like us the year before.
This is 1 player posing matchups (2 if they work some plays for Z, but I think he'll be in foul trouble more often than not - dude is slower than molasses - makes Oberto look speedy).
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Re: Ok, How do you beat the Cavaliers?
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Originally Posted by Pistons < Spurs
I haven't read the previous 4 pages, so some of what I say may be repetative.
The Spurs have 3 things the Pistons did not....which greatly hindered us.
Speed. Athleticism/ability to create. Post scoring.
Parker will kill Hughes with his speed. Billups is used to using his size as an advantage. He wasn't able to do that this time. He couldn't back him down or shoot over him. He also is a very slow PG. He couldn't effectively break down the D by getting to the hole like Parker can. Parkers speed will be just as effective against BooBie.
Manu's ability to create and get in the lane will pay huge dividends. He'll get knocked down a bunch by Gooden and Verajo. But as long as he keeps attacking he'll be fine. We didn't have anyone who could get to the hole like he can.
Duncan will kill their interior. Again, something the Pistons don't have, as Sheed more often shoots from outside.
Plus the outside shooting and the more dependable and physical D will give them hell.
I believe the Pistons worried too much about Bron (except for the last 15 minutes of game 5....) Tonights game was a perfect example. We doubled, trapped and sometimes tripled Bron only to see BooBie hit 3's all night long. Play him up straight, but also stay in front of the role players. Who cares if Bron scores 50 if everyone else only scores 10. And he's often very passive, mainly looking to dish the ball.
Rebounding will be important. Box the fuck out, and limit their second chance points.
Beware of Verajo. He'll sometimes get lucky with his J, but the big thing with him, is that he's always active. He brings energy. He also doesn't back down. He's not scared to be physical. And of course he'll get crazy whistles with his flopping.
Thats what I'm hoping. But you never know.... I'm just glad that Bron already had his outrageous game of all time so Pop could take note.
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Re: Ok, How do you beat the Cavaliers?
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Originally Posted by Buddy Holly
What?
Really, you respond with what? Like you forgot what you just posted?
No douche....
The Cavs suck.
They don't present matchup problems with us.
LeBron is what...23 now? He's already on the decline. I doubt he's improved any.
Brown has been coaching them for what, 2 years now? He's probably had them playing as good as they could play the last 3 times they beat us.
And I agree...there's absolutely nothing to indicate Bruce can't guard LeBron or that they might present matchup problems for us...
Nothing but flukes.
The regular season never means anything.
We're the Spurs, we never lose, it's in the bag, this is the best Spurs team in history, it's our divine right to be champions.
This is the most impressive playoff run in Spurs history, we've had a brutal schedule and dominated without any series ever being in the slightest bit of doubt.
We'll win because Bruce will shut LeBron down, Duncan, Parker and Ginobili will be consistent, I mean they never get shut down...and the Cavs are a one man team that play D like the Suns.
No worries. Go Spurs Go...
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Re: Ok, How do you beat the Cavaliers?
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Originally Posted by td4mvp3
i think it's the cavs' year. i thinkl they surprise everyone and win game one and then win in 6.
What is this, the anti-jinx?
The Cavs are severely outmatched. Hardly a time for doom and gloom if you're a Spurs fan. I'm not superstitious, nor do I feel a need for low expectations. I say the Spurs dominate in a bad match up for the Cavaliers.
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Re: Ok, How do you beat the Cavaliers?
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Originally Posted by whottt
No douche....
The Cavs suck.
They don't present matchup problems with us.
LeBron is what...23 now? He's already on the decline. I doubt he's improved any.
Brown has been coaching them for what, 2 years now? He's probably had them playing as good as they could play the last 3 times they beat us.
And I agree...there's absolutely nothing to indicate Bruce can't guard LeBron or that they might present matchup problems for us...
Nothing but flukes.
The regular season never means anything.
We're the Spurs, we never lose, it's in the bag, this is the best Spurs team in history, it's our divine right to be champions.
This is the most impressive playoff run in Spurs history, we've had a brutal schedule and dominated without any series ever being in the slightest bit of doubt.
We'll win because Bruce will shut LeBron down, Duncan, Parker and Ginobili will be consistent, I mean they never get shut down...and the Cavs are a one man team that play D like the Suns.
No worries. Go Spurs Go...
Yes, keep avoiding the retarded argument and proof yu provided, maybe if you avoid it long enough it'll just go away.
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Re: Ok, How do you beat the Cavaliers?
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Originally Posted by ducks
put bowen on gibson
let james get his
or put finely on james
actually like that, but just double/triple him every time he drives in
Gibson won't be getting ANY 3's on the Spurs
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Re: Ok, How do you beat the Cavaliers?
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Originally Posted by whottt
No...it was Dirk Nowitski that killed us...
Bruce couldn't guard him...yeah he got some stops and his moments...but he couldn't guard him.
LeBron is worse, the Cavs know us better, they have a better C, they play a better playoff style of ball, and they don't choke like the Mavs...and yes, the Mavs choked against us last season in game 7...we just outchoked them.
Spurs have no one to guard Lebron? Cave have no one to guard Duncan. Spurs team w/o Duncan>>>>>>>>>>>Cavs team w/o Lebron.
Pop>>>>>>Mike Brown....it's not even close. There's no way he knows more about the Spurs than Avery does.
Duncan is not the choker Dirk is. That's the main difference between this series and Dal/GS.
