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Re: The 5 Greatest Teams in NBA History
The only reason why I still put the Bulls over the Spurs is because of 3 more titles, maybe just 2 more, and those dominating seasons, including quite possibly the greatest single season team ever with 72-10 regular season. The Spurs could catch them however with a few more seasons, thats to be seen.
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Re: The 5 Greatest Teams in NBA History
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Originally Posted by whottt
Yeah but still...the Sixers have been around for 60 years and have one of the best winning PCT's of all time...they've played over 4500 games and have a winning record...
The Spurs have been around for 30(NBA) years, have played about 2000 fewer games, yet are 150 more games over 500 than the Sixers.
It's not just that either...the Spurs started out as defacto minor league team...yet somehow they've made a conference finals in every decade of their NBA existence.
The Spurs have been adding 30+ games over .500 every year lately whereas the 76ers keep treading water in that category, so it's understandable for the Spurs to be ahead.
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Playoffs-Titles
San Antonio Spurs 26-1
:wtf
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That list also has the Heat at 0 titles. The wins and losses are accurate, but the titles over recent years are not.
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Re: The 5 Greatest Teams in NBA History
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Originally Posted by shelshor
If we're looking at the history of the franchises, the Warriors {1946-47, 1955-56, and 1974-75} and the Syracuse Nationals/Philadelphia 76ers {1954-55, 1966-67, 1982-83} also have 3 titles
Hopefully that logjam at 3 titles will be broken up in 2 to 2 1/2 weeks
As far as my 5 greatest teams:
Celtics
Lakers
Spurs
Bulls
76ers
in spite of both the Celtics' & 76ers' recent downturn in fortunes
True..there's a reason I ranked the Pistons and Spurs over the Warriors and Sixers having to do with titles when I first saw that list a few years ago and I can't remember now why I did it....
Also...the Spurs and the Bulls are the only teams undefeated in multiple finals appearances I believe.
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I think the Rockets are as well.
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Originally Posted by whottt
Mavfan, this is for you.
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Franchise All-Time Records:
Playoffs-
Team Games Titles W - L Pct Games +/- .500
Los Angeles Lakers 4647 53-14 2848-1799 .613 +1049
San Antonio Spurs 2510 26-1- 1493-1017 .595 +476
Boston Celtics 4757 44-16 2794-1963 .587 +831
Phoenix Suns 3166 27-0 1759-1407 .556 +352
Utah Jazz 2674 21-0 1439-1235 .538 +204
Philadelphia 76ers 4582 43-3 2461-2121 .537 +340
Milwaukee Bucks 3166 24-1 1684-1482 .532 +202
Seattle SuperSonics 3248 22-1 1725-1523 .531 +202
Portland Trail Blazers 3002 26-1 1588-1414 .529 +174
Chicago Bulls 3329 27-6 1703-1626 .512 +77
New York Knicks 4753 37-2 2399-2354 .505 +45
Houston Rockets 3248 23-2 1629-1619 .502 +10
Detroit Pistons 4644 37-3- 2302-2344 .497 -42
Miami Heat 1526 11-0 756-770 .495 -14
Indiana Pacers 2510 17-0 1235-1275 .492 -40
Atlanta Hawks 4584 36-1 2239-2345 .488 -106
Orlando Magic 1444 9-0 700-744 .485 -44
Dallas Mavericks 2182 12-0 1051-1131 .482 -80
Sacramento Kings 4647 28-1 2220-2427 .478 -207
New Orleans Hornets 1526 8-0 725-801 .475 -76
Denver Nuggets 2510 17-0 1162-1348 .463 -186
Golden State Warriors 4752 28-3 2190-2562 .461 -372
Washington Wizards 3729 24-1 1713-2016 .459 -303
Cleveland Cavaliers 3002 15-0- 1349-1653 .449 -304
Minnesota Timberwolves 1444 7-0 627-817 .434 -190
New Jersey Nets 2510 15-0 1082-1428 .431 -346
Toronto Raptors 952 4-0 388-564 .408 -176
Los Angeles Clippers 3002 7-0 1104-1898 .368 -792
Memphis Grizzlies 952 3-0 318-634 .334 -316
Charlotte Bobcats 246 0-0 77-169 .313 -92
- Pending playoffs
Check out the two Los Angeles franchises. The Lakers hold a 921.5 game
lead on the Clippers. If the Clippers went 62-20 every season, and the
Lakers went 20-62 every season, it would take 22 years for the Clippers
to overtake the Lakers!
im not surprised the Mavs are 80 games below .500.
our great records now wash out the dismal records in the mid-90's were we would always flirt with all time records as far as worst winning percentage goes. there was one season where we didnt even win 10 games i think :lol
and plus, the Mavs have been a steadily below .500 franchise forever not counting the Agguire/Blackman era.
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The Rockets lost the 1981 and 1986 Finals.
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From that same site:
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Best 1-Year Turnaround:
96-97 San Antonio Spurs 20 62 .244
97-98 56 26 .683
36 Games +.439
David Robinson injured 96-97 gives Spurs draft pick
for Tim Duncan, so if Robinson was not injured,
Spurs don't get Duncan, Robinson retires ringless.
88-89 San Antonio Spurs 21 61 .256
89-90 56 26 .683
David Robinson joins team 35 Games +.427
03-04 Phoenix Suns 29 53 .354
04-05 62 20 .756
MVP Steve Nash joins team 33 Games +.402
78-79 Boston Celtics 29 53 .354
79-80 61 21 .744
Larry Bird joins team 32 Games +.390
69-70 Milwaukee Bucks 27 55 .329
70-71 56 26 .683
Lew Alcindor joins team 29 Games +.354
Code:
Worst 1-Year Turnaround:
97-98 Chicago Bulls 62 20 .756
98-99 13 37 .260
49 Games (Full Season Equivalent: 40.7 Games) -.496
Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen and
coach Phil Jackson leave team
95-96 San Antonio Spurs 59 23 .720
96-97 20 62 .244
39 Games -.476
David Robinson injured all but 6 games in 96-97
DRob was so under-rated it's sickening.
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Originally Posted by whottt
True..there's a reason I ranked the Pistons and Spurs over the Warriors and Sixers having to do with titles when I first saw that list a few years ago and I can't remember now why I did it....
Also...the Spurs and the Bulls are the only teams undefeated in multiple finals appearances I believe.
Could it be because the Warriors have 3 losses in the finals, the Pistons 4 and the Nationals/76ers 6??
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5 Greatest Teams in NBA History ?? according to the media and other fans SPURS don't even exist and have to continually prove themselves year after year. IMO winning percentage alone put them in top 3.
GO SPURS!! maybe with this new BAD BOY image , and after thrashing the KING we'll get a tiny bit mo LOVE.
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Originally Posted by Chris Childs
Replace spurs and Jazz with bulls and knicks.
Diesel just stated facts....and you are saying the facts don't matter?
There is no way to dispute winning percentages by franchise. Unless you make up who won what games.
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i say in about 15 years the spurs will move up to #2 if things keep going good the way they have been in the last 10 years.
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Hmm, the Celtics and Bill Russell were just flukes, winning fluke games against teams trotting out slow-footed 6'7 white guys at center. And don't even get me started on the Lakers and all their fluke titles, or Jordan and the Bulls getting all the calls due to David Stern's marketing priorities. Adjusted for all of the bullshit, here are the five greatest teams in NBA History.
1. 1987-88 Dallas Mavericks:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/196/4...e333b6d9_o.jpg
Led by Rolando Blackman and Mark Aguirre, the Mavericks went 53-29 and advanced to the Western Conference Finals, before Stern and the refs screwed them.
2. 2005-06 Dallas Mavericks:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/185/4...2e798f4c_o.jpg
This squad went 60-22 and defeated the fluke Spurs on the way to the NBA Finals. Once there, they were well on their way to winning before David Stern and ABC executives took matters into their own hands.
3. 2006-07 Dallas Mavericks:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/197/5...e50ede89_o.jpg
The Mavericks went 67-15 during the regular season and would've won a title easily until Stern and ABC executives decided that a historic upset would make for a better storyline.
4. 2002-03 Dallas Mavericks:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/18/23...f9c3f53c_o.jpg
The Mavericks started out 14-0, were 35-5 at one point and finished 60-22, losing out on a tiebreaker to the Spurs. They would've beaten the Spurs in the Western Conference Finals and advanced to win the title. Unfortunately, Bruce Bowen whacked Dirk Nowitzki in the knee with a folding chair in Game 3, and the Mavs couldn't overcome the Spurs dirty play.
5. 1993-94 Dallas Mavericks:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/126/4...eec6019e_o.jpg
Thanks to the arrival of Jason Kidd, the Mavericks improved from 13-69 to 36-46. The team would've made the playoffs and gone on to win the title if Jim Jackson hadn't suffered a severely sprained ankle.
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Originally Posted by howbouthemspurs
i say in about 15 years the spurs will move up to #2 if things keep going good the way they have been in the last 10 years.
uh... theres a little problem there. For that to happen we would need another Duncan to drop in our lap like 10 years ago... which is to say... not very likely is it? No, I think Duncan has 3 or 4 more years of dominant to semi dominant performance and then he'll be relegated role player if and only if we happen to find ourselves a decent star to take us all the way. If not, Duncan retires and we will flirt with the bottom of the west for years to come.
This is why people need to enjoy these years while they last! Ask Boston fans if in the 80s they ever pictured their team being where they are now. Every fan thinks their good fortune is going to run forever, and ours has run for almost 2 decades now. I mean come on! How many franchises do you know who have had a David Robinson caliber player and then on top of that get possibly the greatest PF to ever play the game?
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Originally Posted by MaNuMaNiAc
uh... theres a little problem there. For that to happen we would need another Duncan to drop in our lap like 10 years ago... which is to say... not very likely is it? No, I think Duncan has 3 or 4 more years of dominant to semi dominant performance and then he'll be relegated role player if and only if we happen to find ourselves a decent star to take us all the way. If not, Duncan retires and we will flirt with the bottom of the west for years to come.
This is why people need to enjoy these years while they last! Ask Boston fans if in the 80s they ever pictured their team being where they are now. Every fan thinks their good fortune is going to run forever, and ours has run for almost 2 decades now. I mean come on! How many franchises do you know who have had a David Robinson caliber player and then on top of that get possibly the greatest PF to ever play the game?
Yes we got lucky twice with those draft picks david robinson and Tim duncan but you never know right?.. whats wrong with thinking that it might happen again?
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Originally Posted by howbouthemspurs
Yes we got lucky twice with those draft picks david robinson and Tim duncan but you never know right?.. whats wrong with thinking that it might happen again?
Yes, because players like The Admiral and Timmy come around every year... You can hope, everyone hopes, I hope we get another superstar to carry us to the promised land, but hope is probably all its going to be. Odds are against us buddy. So enjoy the years we've had, and the ones we've got left. Greatness doesn't come around often.
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Originally Posted by MaNuMaNiAc
uh... theres a little problem there. For that to happen we would need another Duncan to drop in our lap like 10 years ago... which is to say... not very likely is it? No, I think Duncan has 3 or 4 more years of dominant to semi dominant performance and then he'll be relegated role player if and only if we happen to find ourselves a decent star to take us all the way. If not, Duncan retires and we will flirt with the bottom of the west for years to come.
This is why people need to enjoy these years while they last! Ask Boston fans if in the 80s they ever pictured their team being where they are now. Every fan thinks their good fortune is going to run forever, and ours has run for almost 2 decades now. I mean come on! How many franchises do you know who have had a David Robinson caliber player and then on top of that get possibly the greatest PF to ever play the game?
Nice thoughts, unfortunately, this era of the Spurs won't be appreciated, even by SA, until it's over. That's the way it is for some teams...they'll be missed more once they are gone. And Spursfans will hurt for these days to come again.
The Spurs are arguably the only true small market dynasty in modern sports history....maybe the Edmonton Oilers or something...American sports anyway...
What Pop was able to do since becoming the GM of this team is a one of a kind thing in all of Sports I think. He's a great coach...but he's a genius GM.
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Originally Posted by MavericksDynasty
Hmm, the Celtics and Bill Russell were just flukes, winning fluke games against teams trotting out slow-footed 6'7 white guys at center. And don't even get me started on the Lakers and all their fluke titles, or Jordan and the Bulls getting all the calls due to David Stern's marketing priorities. Adjusted for all of the bullshit, here are the five greatest teams in NBA History.
1. 1987-88 Dallas Mavericks:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/196/4...e333b6d9_o.jpg
Led by Rolando Blackman and Mark Aguirre, the Mavericks went 53-29 and advanced to the Western Conference Finals, before Stern and the refs screwed them.
2. 2005-06 Dallas Mavericks:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/185/4...2e798f4c_o.jpg
This squad went 60-22 and defeated the fluke Spurs on the way to the NBA Finals. Once there, they were well on their way to winning before David Stern and ABC executives took matters into their own hands.
3. 2006-07 Dallas Mavericks:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/197/5...e50ede89_o.jpg
The Mavericks went 67-15 during the regular season and would've won a title easily until Stern and ABC executives decided that a historic upset would make for a better storyline.
4. 2002-03 Dallas Mavericks:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/18/23...f9c3f53c_o.jpg
The Mavericks started out 14-0, were 35-5 at one point and finished 60-22, losing out on a tiebreaker to the Spurs. They would've beaten the Spurs in the Western Conference Finals and advanced to win the title. Unfortunately, Bruce Bowen whacked Dirk Nowitzki in the knee with a folding chair in Game 3, and the Mavs couldn't overcome the Spurs dirty play.
5. 1993-94 Dallas Mavericks:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/126/4...eec6019e_o.jpg
Thanks to the arrival of Jason Kidd, the Mavericks improved from 13-69 to 36-46. The team would've made the playoffs and gone on to win the title if Jim Jackson hadn't suffered a severely sprained ankle.
Nice.
LOL
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Originally Posted by Chris Childs
Replace spurs and Jazz with bulls and knicks.
ARE YOU FUCKING BLIND? HE SAID WINNING %, WHICH IS NOT OBJECTIVE, IT IS A STATISTIC! I AM SO SICK OF YOUR FUCKING IDIOCY!!!
/rant
-Mars
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Originally Posted by MavericksDynasty
Hmm, the Celtics and Bill Russell were just flukes, winning fluke games against teams trotting out slow-footed 6'7 white guys at center. And don't even get me started on the Lakers and all their fluke titles, or Jordan and the Bulls getting all the calls due to David Stern's marketing priorities. Adjusted for all of the bullshit, here are the five greatest teams in NBA History.
1. 1987-88 Dallas Mavericks:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/196/4...e333b6d9_o.jpg
Led by Rolando Blackman and Mark Aguirre, the Mavericks went 53-29 and advanced to the Western Conference Finals, before Stern and the refs screwed them.
2. 2005-06 Dallas Mavericks:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/185/4...2e798f4c_o.jpg
This squad went 60-22 and defeated the fluke Spurs on the way to the NBA Finals. Once there, they were well on their way to winning before David Stern and ABC executives took matters into their own hands.
3. 2006-07 Dallas Mavericks:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/197/5...e50ede89_o.jpg
The Mavericks went 67-15 during the regular season and would've won a title easily until Stern and ABC executives decided that a historic upset would make for a better storyline.
4. 2002-03 Dallas Mavericks:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/18/23...f9c3f53c_o.jpg
The Mavericks started out 14-0, were 35-5 at one point and finished 60-22, losing out on a tiebreaker to the Spurs. They would've beaten the Spurs in the Western Conference Finals and advanced to win the title. Unfortunately, Bruce Bowen whacked Dirk Nowitzki in the knee with a folding chair in Game 3, and the Mavs couldn't overcome the Spurs dirty play.
5. 1993-94 Dallas Mavericks:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/126/4...eec6019e_o.jpg
Thanks to the arrival of Jason Kidd, the Mavericks improved from 13-69 to 36-46. The team would've made the playoffs and gone on to win the title if Jim Jackson hadn't suffered a severely sprained ankle.
Coulda Would Shoulda
WHINE WHINE WHINE
BLAME IT ON STERN AND THE REFS!!!
GET OVER YOURSELF!
-Mars
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Originally Posted by howbouthemspurs
IT was close but I had to put the Spurs ahead of the Bulls considering what they have done in the past decade by having a higher winning percentage than any sports franchise during that time.. That is just amazing.
Right there you just condraticted your subject when you base the Spurs accomplishments in the past decade and use that as a measure against the HISTORY of the NBA. I'll always be a Spurs fan, but give Michael and da' Bulls their respects.
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Originally Posted by whottt
San Antonio Spurs 2510 26-1- 1493-1017 .595 +476
Only 1 title? Kinda out of date, dontchathink??? :lol
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and what is your top 5 worst teams in NBA History?
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Originally Posted by whottt
The Spurs are arguably the only true small market dynasty in modern sports history....maybe the Edmonton Oilers or something...American sports anyway...
http://www.sportslogos.net/images/Fo...fbki5d7il3.gif
