Virgin Islands...Timmy

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Originally Posted by BWJACKETS

Last time I checked, last season and two out of the last three years the best from the East has beaten the best from the West. So you can shut your mouth.

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2 times in the last 8 years the East has won... WOOT!

coincidentally, no Eastern team has ever beaten the Spurs in the Playoffs.

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Originally Posted by hater

anything is possible but odds are heavily on Spurs side
Vegas odds:
Spurs win 1/4

Cleveland win 4/1

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That's a pretty good bet actullay! Better than alot I've seen... :toast

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Originally Posted by easjer

Well, see, that is where you are wrong. If we can win in Denver, Pheonix and fucking Utah, we sure as flying fuck can win in Cleveland.

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I can't wait to meet you on Thursday and finally hear you drop f-bomb adjectives like this in person. :lol

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Originally Posted by BWJACKETS

Hey clown, you are comparing common opponents when direct matchups are what determines games. First, Phoenix could beat alot of teams just by the way they get up and down the court, it makes them a bad matchup for any team. Second, don't flatter yourself, San Antonio got through that series as soon as the suspensions were handed down, it wasn't because they shut down the Suns offense.

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Yah we won because Horry was suspended in game 6 when the Suns were full strength! -or- did you mean that they had no spine and decided to lay down because they had lost game 5 unjustly?

Saying the Pistons were an offensive juggernaut that got shut down isn't exactly true either is it? The Suns were an offensive juggernaut that got shut down.

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Originally Posted by BWJACKETS

we would have an angry mob outside the arena ready to mug your whole team.

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I'm sure Pop already was prepared for that, even with a Cavs win...

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Originally Posted by BWJACKETS

OHHHHH HAHAHA....so there it is. For a second there, I thought Spurs fans were above all of the complaining about the refs. Sorry but if Dallas had made it to play you guys the Spurs wouldn't even be in the Finals.

Last time I checked, last season and two out of the last three years the best from the East has beaten the best from the West. So you can shut your mouth.

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I think I know bullshit officiating when I see it. It's not everyday your franchise player fouls out of a game because someone from the other team stepped on his foot.

And you really need to brush up on your NBA factoids a little bit if you are going to try and talk shit to the team that is about to bust your team's Final's cherry in seven different pieces on Thursday. The East has 2 of the last 3, sure. But why don't you dig a little deeper. The West has 6 of the last 8. Go fuck yourself sideways while you sit on the toilet and gain more NBA wisdom from the SportsCenter reruns you TiVo'd.

Do you think "2 of the last 3" helps your team any when they just cake walked to the Finals? "2 out of 3" is the odds any playoff team in the East had at making the Finals with the Cavs opponents. This Cavs team couldn't win the NCAA Championship, much less beat the Spurs for the NBA Championship. What a fucking joke.

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I'm not one for making up excuses, I'm just going to say right now that game 1 is one game, not seven. And in any event, the Spurs will not win any game via blowout, sorry it just isn't going to happen. Cavs came back from down 2-0 so you can't count them out under any circumstances. SA will not win any games in Cleveland in this series so hopefully you win all your home games.

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You're probably right. The Spurs will probably go up by 50 at half, then play Beno 1 on 5 against the Cavs the entire second half and only end up winning the game by 6.

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Originally Posted by easjer

Funny. Jazz had a perfect home record in the playoffs.


Worked out well for them.

And mugging our team? :rolleyes

First, VERY mature. Second, it's not like Pheonix and Utah weren't throwing shit at our team and calling bomb threats into the hotel. It's classless to do and equally classless to threaten.

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Hey, I'm not making any threats. I was just downtown on saturday and saw how crazy everybody was going over the ECF closeout game outside the arena and how there weren't enough cops and I thought out loud, "Wow, if these people wanted to they could storm the building and there wouldn't be a damn thing anybody could do about it." As things were, I saw a stop sign pulled out of the ground by a mob of people and carried away, as well as a fight or two breaking out between Cav and Pistons fans. Just an observation on my part, there were some pretty rowdy people down there.

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Originally Posted by J.T.

You're probably right. The Spurs will probably go up by 50 at half, then play Beno 1 on 5 against the Cavs the entire second half and only end up winning the game by 6.

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Oh, come on! It will be Beno, Bonner, Vaughn, Elson and Barry.

:toast

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Originally Posted by sandman

I can't wait to meet you on Thursday and finally hear you drop f-bomb adjectives like this in person. :lol

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:oops

I curse A LOT, particularly when talking about the Spurs.

At least you are forewarned. :lol

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Originally Posted by MadDog73

Oh, come on! It will be Beno, Bonner, Vaughn, Elson and Barry.

:toast

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That lineup could still torch everyone on Cleveland but James. Playing Beno 1 on 5 is much more fair and sportsman like. But since we are the bad boys now I don't see why gangraping them with our third string is such a bad idea.

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Originally Posted by BWJACKETS

Hey, I'm not making any threats. I was just downtown on saturday and saw how crazy everybody was going over the ECF closeout game outside the arena and how there weren't enough cops and I thought out loud, "Wow, if these people wanted to they could storm the building and there wouldn't be a damn thing anybody could do about it." As things were, I saw a stop sign pulled out of the ground by a mob of people and carried away, as well as a fight or two breaking out between Cav and Pistons fans. Just an observation on my part, there were some pretty rowdy people down there.

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I'm sure the Cleveland Chamber of Commerce is hustling to get this endorsement on their web site

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Originally Posted by BWJACKETS

Cavs can make this an ugly series and make the Spurs do things they don't want to do offensively. The Spurs can do the same, however in an ugly series I like the Cavs because of Lebron's leadership and ability to improvise and score.

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On the other hand, Tim Duncan, Tony Parker and Manu Ginobili cannot lead, improvise nor score.

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Originally Posted by ambchang

On the other hand, Tim Duncan, Tony Parker and Manu Ginobili cannot lead, improvise nor score.

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Haven't you heard? It's all about :worthy: LeBron now! :lmao

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Originally Posted by J.T.

I think I know bullshit officiating when I see it. It's not everyday your franchise player fouls out of a game because someone from the other team stepped on his foot.

And you really need to brush up on your NBA factoids a little bit if you are going to try and talk shit to the team that is about to bust your team's Final's cherry in seven different pieces on Thursday. The East has 2 of the last 3, sure. But why don't you dig a little deeper. The West has 6 of the last 8. Go fuck yourself sideways while you sit on the toilet and gain more NBA wisdom from the SportsCenter reruns you TiVo'd.

Do you think "2 of the last 3" helps your team any when they just cake walked to the Finals? "2 out of 3" is the odds any playoff team in the East had at making the Finals with the Cavs opponents. This Cavs team couldn't win the NCAA Championship, much less beat the Spurs for the NBA Championship. What a fucking joke.



You're probably right. The Spurs will probably go up by 50 at half, then play Beno 1 on 5 against the Cavs the entire second half and only end up winning the game by 6.

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Dude, you are a joke. First you come up with some weak excuses as to why you lost last season. Second, you can't even admit to yourself that an "inferior" team from the East could actually win it all, when in fact it's happened two of the last three years! Just because you are from the West doesn't mean your team is entitled to anything. And obviously I did dig deeper because in my original post I noted that the West dominated the Post-Jordan Era until the Pistons beat the Lakers, obviously you are an idiot that either can't read or can't judge anything without a heavy bias.

Hey, whatever, say what you are going to say and give the Cavs no respect. Nobody else has and they have all eaten their words, boy it must taste pretty good. It just shows how unintelligent you are. You can take your weak floppers Ginobli and Parker, talk all about the greatness of Tim Duncan and how the Cavs don't belong on the same court with them, how the Cavs can't possibly score with them, blah blah blah, I've heard it all before.

Well guess what? The supposedly superior Pistons team had it's players running around saying "WTF? What happened? I thought these guys weren't supposed to be any good? Why are we playing like crap?" What happened? They came out and got punched right in the mouth, that's what happened. And that is what's going to happen throughout this series, no way the Spurs match the intensity of the Cavs and no way they keep up defensively. Lebron is going to ball out in the Finals, anybody you put on him will be a mismatch and Gibson is going to hit his shots as well when your backcourt sucks in to help out. San Antonio is a great team but nobody is in awe and nobody is going to lie down for them, let's see what ya got.

I'm sorry, NO ONE with Sideshow Bob on their team gets to say ONE goddamned word about flopping.

And further, please explain to me how your team will stop penetration from Tony and Manu. I'm serious. Tell me how it will happen, remembering that both Tony and Manu can pass out of a crowd, that Oberto is great with backdoor cuts and that Tony, Manu, Bruce, Finley, Barry can consistently hit from outside (and that we have others, Duncan and Oberto who can reliably hit from mid-range).

Tell me how you will do it instead of continuing to tell me you will. You are Coach Brown. Spell it out.

Lebron in the open floor....ohh...on duncan's head again. Just tell Ginobli to watch his cheap feet. That'll be a quick ticket out of the series for him. :king

Aside: Did I just see (2) Cavs fan misspell "Ginobili" and then call Tony a flopper? I'm pretty sure for every one time that Tony legitimately flops, he gets slammed to the hardwood by defenders in the lane ten times.

Your "2 of the last 3" is the only leg you have to stand on right now, unless you want to include that half of a stump when you said the Cavs play better D than the Spurs :lmao

This is funnier than the time I got really baked and watched the ATHF movie.

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Originally Posted by BWJACKETS

And obviously I did dig deeper because in my original post I noted that the West dominated the post-jordan era

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Dug deep for that one, did you? Nuggets like that one don't just pop off the front page of ESPN, do they?

Fact: only the 04 and 05 Pistons were realistically thought of as Eastern Conference teams that should have won titles, and only one did. Miami got lucky, which is proven by their first round exit this year with essentially the same team.

Just because YOUR team made it out of the East doesn't automatically validate them as a jugernaut, because recent history shows the East as being a weaker conference. I doubt you would be on here making these same arguments if the Cavs were not in the Finals.

Seriously, the Miami Heat does not win that trophy without Wade selling his soul to Stern for a record amount of FTA in the series.

What am I saying the Mavs fucking choked.

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Originally Posted by BWJACKETS

All I am hearing is the overconfidence of the Spurs shining through just like it did with the Pistons. You guys will be the first ones to eat your words, Cavs will make this an ugly series like I said and Lebron will take over. Cleveland is playing better defense than the Spurs are right now, they have a coach who knows the in's and out's of your playbook, they have Lebron to carry the load offensively. Cavs in 5, we're gonna shock the world!

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Not that I am saying it's going to be an easy series, because I think any finals should be tough just by definition, but your logic is just deplorable.
You continued to mention how overwhelmingly dominant Lebron is (which I do not argue), but dismiss the same for Duncan. Is Duncan not dominant during this playoff run?
Why would you say the Cavs are playing better defense than the Spurs? True the #s are better in the playoffs, but I would say that a defense will always look better when playing the Wizards (sans Arenas and Butler), Nets (with a hobbling Kidd), and the Pistons vs. playing the Nuggets, Suns and Jazz, all three of which averaged more than 100 ppg in the regular season.
Finally, Mike Brown knows the Spurs playbook, big surprise! Where do you think he got it from? You got that right, the Spurs! So you are saying the Spurs wouldn’t know the Cavs playbook?
If the Cavs win in 5, it would indeed by a shock to the world.

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Originally Posted by sandman

Dug deep for that one, did you? Nuggets like that one don't just pop off the front page of ESPN, do they?

Fact: only the 04 and 05 Pistons were realistically thought of as Eastern Conference teams that should have won titles, and only one did. Miami got lucky, which is proven by their first round exit this year with essentially the same team.

Just because YOUR team made it out of the East doesn't automatically validate them as a jugernaut, because recent history shows the East as being a weaker conference. I doubt you would be on here making these same arguments if the Cavs were not in the Finals.

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"LUCK?", and who decides what is luck, you KATY? Who said Miami wasn't thought of as a legit title contender? you? I think Miami won and that's all there is too it. Have you ever heard "Act like you've been ther before?" . Probably not much of an athlete either, were you, you weren't lucky? huh?
Miami won, period. :sleep

If you want to know who belongs here and who doesnt just watch tape of the end of the Utah Series...

How much Jumping up and down did you see our players do?

How excited did they look?

I would be really scared if Lebron would have just accepted the Trophy and glumly walked off the floor...

Like Duncan and the Spurs

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Originally Posted by easjer

And further, please explain to me how your team will stop penetration from Tony and Manu. I'm serious. Tell me how it will happen, remembering that both Tony and Manu can pass out of a crowd, that Oberto is great with backdoor cuts and that Tony, Manu, Bruce, Finley, Barry can consistently hit from outside (and that we have others, Duncan and Oberto who can reliably hit from mid-range).

Tell me how you will do it instead of continuing to tell me you will. You are Coach Brown. Spell it out.

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Here is how they do it. Z/Varajao on Duncan, Gooden helps out. Hughes on Manu, Gibson on Parker. Cleveland's backcourt will be responsible for slowing their initial move to the basket, contesting jumpers and blocking the passing lanes, ripping the ball away when the ball is loose, other than that it will be up to our big men to contest shots and grab rebounds. The fact that Cleveland has a deciding size advantage across the board will give them an edge in rebounds so San Antonio's ability to score without turning the ball over will be at a premium.

And let's not forget, Varajao is the best in the league at drawing offensive fouls so Parker an Ginobili will have to actually think before rushing in, Varajao's footwork in keeping himself between the driving offensive player and the basket will keep these two off-balance.

It isn't rocket science, you get your players to play hard and play smart defensively, Mike Brown has turned this team into a very formidable defensive team. Case in point, just look at how they smothered Chauncey Billups, who if I am not mistaken had the best assist-to-turnover ratio of any PG in the league this season until he ran into the Cavs, where he had way more turnovers than assists. Cleveland has played championship-caliber defense last postseason and this year, last season they didn't have the scorers to compliment Lebron with however that has changed quickly and they haven't lost a beat on the defensive end.

Cavs fan is fooling himself thinking Daniel Gibson is the Pippen to Lebron's Jordan. :lmao

Or that anyone on his team's roster deserves to wear a finals patch other than James.