Ahh yes! Good call! :tu
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Ahh yes! Good call! :tu
if gibson's out there and lebron is on parker, wouldn't manu or finley take gibson to school? hell, hughes would still be at a disadvantage, i'd think, since manu can get to the rim like tony.
I expect more Lebron on Parker. Which means... we need to pick and roll his ass to death.
First, Cleveland showed in game 1 they can't defend the PnR to save their lives. Second, by bringing say, whoever Ilgauskas is guarding out to set the pick, you just sprung Parker in a foot race with Z from the three point line. I like our odds there.
Third, every time you set a pick on James you are getting a free shot to beat him up and wear him down a little bit, kinda like a boxer hitting his opponent continually in the ribs. The first shot won't get him, but over time you wear him down.
We need to attack Gibson defensively and make Mike Brown HAVE to take him out. We can do this with isos for whoever he is guarding, putting him into PnR situations, and also posting him up. Manu and Finley should be able to easily post him up, and I've also seen Parker take smaller guys into the post before. Actually now that I think about it, we should pound on him with the pick and roll as well. Let's see how long he stays in his 'groove' after getting knocked on his ass a couple of times by Oberto, Duncan, Horry, and Elson.
Speaking of Gibson, we CANNOT leave him open. A lot of the shots he got in the fourth weren't a case of us doubling off of him, but rather Parker and Vaughn sagging off of him looking to help defensively. Those two have GOT to stay at home on him when he's in the game.
The only other thing to add is agreement with FromWayDowntown that we need to continue to do a good job on the defensive glass. Cleveland isn't getting easy looks, and we've got to keep it that way.
On one final note, I expect Mike Brown to take a page out of the playbook of the Lakers back when we struggled with them in the post-season. Namely, look for him to start sagging his defense into the lane to A) frustrate Duncan and B) keep Parker and Manu out of it.
He's basically going to challenge us to beat him with the jump shot, and we better be up to the task.
If Gibson is on Finley, I can see Finley posting him up a lot and hitting that turn around "J".Quote:
Originally Posted by td4mvp3
Spurs had only 3 players in double figures (vs 5).
3 starters scored total of 8 pts.
Excluding "fake bencher" Manu, Spurs bench scored 10 pts. Robert did have an amazing 6 AST, and Francisco 6 RBs.
The offense will need more balance to be reliable, to complement the hustle stats of RBs, STLs, forced TOs, BLK.
Shooting 45% @home is not championship offense.
Room for lots of improvement, by both teams.
DEFENSE! Go Bruce!
Also look for Oberto to get more done....
agreed on the added pick and rolls.
on defense, switch Parker off of Gibson and put Ginobili on him.
Someone with a better body size to body him up and stay in front and keep a long arm in front of him.
Maybe throw a little zone at em.
Force guys like Z and Gooden to shoot outside shots.
I'm betting the Cavs will try to isolate LeBron on Bowen at the top of the key some, flattening the offense along the baseline.
something that is missing for the spurs ,as far as adjustments is :start hiting the mid and long range jumpers.(mostly by Finley,Manu and Horry)
Brown is a Pop disciple. He probably wants the points off the bench with boobie, like we use Manu. But dont get me wrong. Boobie is no Ginobili...Quote:
Originally Posted by duncan228
you think it was jitters or the defense?Quote:
Originally Posted by ArgSpursFan
most of them were open looks.So I would say It´s something that the spurs need to adjust or improve.Quote:
Originally Posted by td4mvp3
Spurs held the 2nd best rebounding team in the NBA to 32 boards, 11 under their season average and outrebounded them by 11.Quote:
Originally Posted by FromWayDowntown
Hopefully the Spurs can duplicate the series vs UTAh against Cleveland.
Utah was a great rebounding team and the Spurs held them in check.
Another thing needed is Oberto needs to have a better game. He was pretty useless in game 1.
^He was... Elson really stepped it up in his absense tho. He was out there playing, going for loose balls, rebounds, and blocks (didn't get any, but he was after 'em) like he realized it was the NBA Finals. Good to see
The Spurs didn't have many open three looks at the beginning of the game, and the opportunities started to open up as the game progressed and the Cavs overplayed and double teamed. The Spurs just missed a lot of shots they normally make. As long as they keep taking the smart shot they will start going in.Quote:
Originally Posted by td4mvp3
here's hoping. i think cleveland takes game 2, though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Obstructed_View
I don't see how that's possible. The Spurs missed three out of every four outside shots they took in game 1. If they shot like that against Denver, Phoenix or Utah they'd probably lose by double digits. They certainly wouldn't be up by 20 in the fourth quarter.Quote:
Originally Posted by td4mvp3
The Spurs are capable of going out and failing to show up, as they've done once so far this postseason, but that's the only chance the Cavs have. I can't find a single legitimate basketball reason that the Cavs can win a game in this series if the Spurs are playing well. If they prove me wrong, then power to them.
not sure about your stat, they had above 45 percent shooting, which seems on par with the rest of their scoring this post season. and if the cavs do the same as they did in game one but james has a more 7-17 game (20 or so points) the cavs can win.Quote:
Originally Posted by Obstructed_View
According to the shot charts on ESPN.com for the game, here's how the Spurs shot from outside the paint:Quote:
Originally Posted by td4mvp3
1st quarter 3-10 = 30%
2nd quarter 2-11 = 18%
3rd quarter 3-13 = 23%
4th quarter 3-9 = 33%
11 of 43. 26% for the game, that's dismal outside shooting, and those shots weren't highly contested, so unless the Cavs play defense by ESP it was just bad shooting.
I checked, and the Spurs shot 34%, 39%, 45% and 39% from outside the paint in their four LOSSES in this year's playoffs, and the Spurs led by double digits until the last minute of the game. The only worse quarters they've shot than the four against Cleveland were the first against the Nuggets, the collapse against the Suns, and the fourth against the Jazz. I have to see them shoot that poorly again for four consecutive quarters to believe it's anything other than the effects of 8 days off.
If your FG% stat is correct, that means the Spurs made up for it in the paint. Unless the Cavs completely change their defense, the Spurs are going to kill them inside again. That means even more opportunities to shoot open jumpers, and the math dictates that those shots start to go in the more they are taken. Unless Hedo's ghost comes back for game 2 they are going to have a hard time losing, even if Lebron scores 30 on 15 shots. Nothing short of a complete Spurs collapse on both ends is going to save Cleveland, I'm afraid.
When you face a team with the best low post threat in the game, two star penetrators, and a plethora of outside shooters you won't be able to shut down them all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Obstructed_View
I'm perfectly ready to give Cleveland's defense credit, just as soon as the Spurs shoot that bad again in this series.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcus Bryant
well, you've got me there, i was just looking at the overall shooting stats. good numbers though, man.Quote:
Originally Posted by Obstructed_View
Thank you. My only goal was to keep you from worrying about game 2, so I hope the work was worth it. :toastQuote:
Originally Posted by td4mvp3