San Antonio/Cleveland 6.3 rating lowest ever for a NBA Finals Game 1
Sad...
But don't blame Lebron..
Blame the Spurs.
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San Antonio/Cleveland 6.3 rating lowest ever for a NBA Finals Game 1
Sad...
But don't blame Lebron..
Blame the Spurs.
Why? The Spurs have been in higher rated finals....have the Cavs?
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Originally Posted by whottt
Yeah everytime the Spurs are on the Finals the ratings go down a big deal!
And when the Cavs are on the Finals the ratings go down even further.
Took the Cavs to hit the all time low...
Question:
What makes Cleveland think anyone gives a fnck about it? It has a river that catches on fire? Last I heard...Cleveland was the anus of the USA.
Cleveland must think it's LA or something.
At least San Antonio never lost it's football team.
spurs in the finals = boring city.....
is it any shock that the 2 lowest rated finals series' have had the spurs in them?
Finals ratings since 1976
1976 CELTICS VS SUNS 11.5
1977 BLAZERS VS SIXERS 12.7
1978 BULLETS VS SONICS 9.9
1979 SONICS VS BULLETS 7.2
1980 LAKERS VS SIXERS 8.0
1981 CELTICS VS ROCKETS 6.7
1982 LAKERS VS SIXERS 13.0
1983 SIXERS VS LAKERS 12.3
1984 CELTICS VS LAKERS 12.3
1985 LAKERS VS CELTICS 13.7
1986 CELTICS VS ROCKETS 14.1
1987 LAKERS VS CELTICS 15.9
1988 LAKERS VS PISTONS 15.4
1989 PISTONS VS LAKERS 15.1
1990 PISTONS VS BLAZERS 12.3
1991 BULLS VS LAKERS 15.8
1992 BULLS VS BLAZERS 14.2
1993 BULLS VS SUNS 17.9
1994 ROCKETS VS KNICKS 12.4
1995 ROCKETS VS MAGIC 13.9
1996 BULLS VS SONICS 16.7
1997 BULLS VS JAZZ 16.8
1998 BULLS VS JAZZ 18.7
1999 SPURS VS KNICKS 11.3
2000 LAKERS VS PACERS 11.6
2001 LAKERS VS SIXERS 12.1
2002 LAKERS VS NETS 10.2
2003 SPURS VS NETS 6.5
2004 PISTONS VS LAKERS 11.5
2005 SPURS VS PISTONS 8.2
2006 HEAT VS MAVERICKS 8.5
Yep, Cleveland is dragging us down. If only Detroit had beaten you guys.
And the Nets and the Pistons too?Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
Fact of the matter put the Cavs with any other team and the ratings will go up quickly!
I'm surprised the 1999 Finals had better ratings despite the lockout, well maybe becuase it has to do something with New York
I'll tell you one thing in regard to all of these Lebron/Jordan comparisons, the Bulls could have played the Antartica Polar Bears and still would have gotten a 13....
Put the Spurs with any other team and the ratings will go up quickly!Quote:
Fact of the matter put the Cavs with any other team and the ratings will go up quickly!
It's no Cleveland, that's for sure.Quote:
I'm surprised the 1999 Finals had better ratings despite the lockout, well maybe becuase it has to do something with New York
Yeah, because the rest of the country was just completely on pins and needles anticipating the ratings grabber that could've been Cavs/Jazz, huh?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Dunk
It showed when the Spurs played the Nets and Pistons :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
And LeBron is certainly no Jordan....or Dwade even.
He said as he looked up....Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Dunk
Yes, the ratings were higher than when they played the Cavs :lolQuote:
It showed when the Spurs played the Nets and Pistons :lol
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Originally Posted by Condemned 2 HelLA
Ironically enough...the Jazz appear to be the greatest ratings draw in history. At least based on that ratings chart.
So Stern wanted Pistons/Jazz.
Got me there.Quote:
Originally Posted by whottt
No arguing my way out of that one.
:depressed
Maybe if Kingsfan realized that basketball is still played in June, the ratings would be higher. Alas...how are they to know?
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Originally Posted by Condemned 2 HelLA
jordan and bulls?
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Originally Posted by whottt
you sir are quite original...... and exactly what do the kings have to do with the spurs being boring as shit to watch?
He just told you.
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Originally Posted by Fillmoe
At least as much as you still being on a Spurs message board, when you should be reading draft boards....
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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
your comprehension skills are lacking......
Nah, a zero like you wouldn't even know what the word Rochester means to your ilk.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fillmoe
As low as the raitings were for the Spurs game the other night, I bet they got more viewers than the Kings did right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fillmoe
It's just a damn shame the ratings don't go back to 1951.
whatever kid...... holla at me when you can get more than 10 ppl to watch game 2 of the finals......
Whatever kid......holla at me when--
Well, never.
Fuck off and keep fishing.
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Originally Posted by MannyIsGod
i highly doubt that shit.... i bet more people are watching wnba monarchs games.......
:lmao Fillmoe just called the Kings a WNBA team.
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Originally Posted by Fillmoe
That's because they keep thinking the Kings are the WNBA team.
The only time the Kings make news is when their coach gets a DWI.
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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
i highly advise you go back and get your GED.... comprehension isn't one of your strong points
:lmao
Keep watching the Monarchs, kiddo. Maybe THEY'LL make the playoffs.
it must be sad when more people rather watch the wnba finals over a finals that the san antonio spurs are in......
Can you please post the television ratings to back up this statement?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fillmoe
Thanks.
It must be sad to have to hang around a Spurs message board during the Finals since the Kings suck that badly.
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Originally Posted by Fillmoe
It's really not sad at all...if your team could ever make the finals, you'd know that....that's sad.
well i will be watching with some of my friends, and thats all that fucking mattersQuote:
Originally Posted by Fillmoe
your guys jokes have something in common with your team.........
they both make me....
http://www.csmngt.com/eg%20sleep.jpg
Shows how much Cleveland blows dick. Every game the played, except Game 5 vs. Detroit was EXTREMELY boring. That Nets series where the teams scored like 6 points in the 4th quarter was God awful.
Wouldn't just be easier to use the :sleep emoticon?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fillmoe
Your whole lame act is making me :sleep
Why are you here? Honestly. I really wanna know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fillmoe
Having your team in the Finals is a great experience, Fillmoe.
With some luck and alot of hard work, your Monarchs could get there.
yah the cavs are boring as hell, besides wannabe jordan the whole team sucks major balls
He's basking in the reflected brilliance of fans with a team in the Finals.Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh810
Who could blame him?
Has it been that long since the Rochester Royals won the title? :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
yah i bet that horry shot against the kings still fucking hurts bad:lol:lol
Who the fuck are the Sacramento Kings? They're one of those garbage lottery teams, right?
:lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by whottt
2 things.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Fillmoe
http://www.highlandmint.com/ProductPics/KingsLogo.jpg
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http://www.nyc.gov/html/sports/gif/nba-lottery.gif
Also....
What the fuck does Crestside Cutthoat mean?
The only thing this shows is that the Cavs are just as weak as the Nets were, if not even weaker, when it comes to competition. Pistons/Spurs was rated an 8.2 because each team had a chance to win. The Cavs just suck as competition.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Dunk
So Fist Fuck, I mean Fast Dunk, what has your little history lesson shown?
All I see it showing is proof that your "prodigal son" isn't the ratings grabber you and the rest of your fellow tools seem to think.
The only way this series can get high ratings is if Lebron scores in the 40's in a cavs win. But he would have to ask Bruce permission to do that.
Los Angeles & New York.Quote:
1999 SPURS VS KNICKS 11.3
2000 LAKERS VS PACERS 11.6
2001 LAKERS VS SIXERS 12.1
2002 LAKERS VS NETS 10.2
2003 SPURS VS NETS 6.5
2004 PISTONS VS LAKERS 11.5
2005 SPURS VS PISTONS 8.2
2006 HEAT VS MAVERICKS 8.5
How you can beat Hollywood and Broadway? People are blaming the Spurs for the ratings. You think if Duncan is playing for the Knicks and they're in the finals instead of the Spurs, the rating would still be down?
I don't think so...:rolleyes
why is it SI reports:
Last year's Game 1 between Miami and Dallas earned a 7.8 rating and yours @ 8.5?
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Originally Posted by Fillmoe
Just wondering what the ratings were like when the KINGS were in the Finals?? :lol
It's doesn't help when the only people who tune in to watch are shooting each other in the head. This is one of those stories that reminds you how much you love San Antonio's "small town in a big city" atmosphere.
Finals Party, San Anto Style:
Party takes a bloody turn
Web Posted: 06/09/2007 01:26 AM CDT
Vianna Davila
Express-News
A shooting between two friends early Friday left a Taft High School graduate dead and another man charged with murder after one fired on the other at an all-night party, police said.
The death of Thomas Mauricio Farley, 20, came as a shock to those who knew him and suspect James Roy Montez, 20 — friends and fellow Taft High School graduates who had gathered at a party to watch the Spurs play in Game 1 of the NBA Finals, according to the victim's uncle Gerard Mauricio.
But no explanation Friday could bring back Lucy Farley's only child.
"They killed Tommy," she wailed, as friends and relatives tried to comfort her. "They shot him in the back of the head."
Montez remained at the Bexar County Jail on a $125,000 bond, charged with murder.
According to police, several people between the ages of 17 and 20 had gathered for a party at a town home in the 7800 block of Micron Drive.
Various guests at the party said Montez was carrying a handgun in his back pocket and had spent at least part of the night playing with the weapon, according to a police report. At least one witness thought the gun wasn't loaded, believing Montez had stuffed the magazine into his front pocket, and told police that the shooing appeared to be an accident, the report said.
Witnesses said Farley and Montez were drunk and "joking around" when Farley told his friend, "Shoot me." Montez did, striking Farley once in the eye, according to the report.
Montez ran out the front door and fired about five more shots into the air before he fled, the report said. Neighbors said the sound of the rapid-fire pops was followed by the screech of a car leaving the scene and the yells of partygoers as they spilled out of the townhome and into the parking lot of the complex.
Police arrived shortly after 3:00 a.m. and found Farley lying on the dining room floor, the report said. He was taken to Wilford Hall Medical Center, where he died from a single gunshot wound to the head around 6 a.m., according to the Bexar County Medical Examiner's Office.
Officers later picked up Montez at the Eagle Ridge Apartments in the 3700 block of Wurzbach, a little more than 2 miles away, according to police.
Evidence technicians recovered pieces of a gun in an overgrown field behind the apartments, but it was unclear if that was the weapon used in the assault.
Statements that Montez made to detectives while in custody led them to believe he "knowingly caused the death of (Farley)" by shooting him, the report said.
Montez' family had no comment Friday.
Friends and family could not say exactly how long Montez and Farley knew each other; but they said Farley, friendly and gregarious, was known to just about everyone.
The son of a retired San Antonio police officer, Farley had lived with his mother and grandmother since the age of 5 when his parents divorced.
Known as a ham and a health nut, he loved to work out, and was always fit and athletic.
"He had big dreams," said friend and next-door neighbor Keith Sanchez, 19, as he remembered the poems Farley had shared with him.
Farley joined ROTC at Taft High School and once considered joining the service, especially since his maternal grandfather served in three American wars.
But he changed his mind as he watched the conflict in Iraq unfold.
"He wanted to live his life," said his mother. "He wanted to live his life to the fullest."
He had been taking classes at Northwest Vista Community College since he graduated from Taft in 2005 and had nurtured an interest in communications, especially film, his mother said.
Framed pictures of Farley at various ages cluttered the living room coffee table Friday: a smiling baby in his mother's arms; and the mature high school student, smart in his blue ROTC uniform.
And among dozens of pictures in a Farley family photo album, one shows him standing in a classroom beside two classmates. One is Montez.
"All his friends were very good boys," said Farley's grandmother Sally Mauricio. "I'm sure that boy (Montez) was a very good boy."
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All we need is the racism and shitty weather and we'll be just like Phoenix/Arizona.
???Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny RIngo
By 1991, most states had adopted Martin Luther King Day except for Arizona.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shred
The NFL, which had an increasing percentage of African American players, and urged by the NFL Players' Association, voted to yank Super Bowl XXVII from Arizona, and awarded it instead to the Rose Bowl in Pasadena, California.
Faced with the boycott, Arizona voters finally approved the holiday by ballot in 1992, and on March 23, 1993, the NFL awarded Super Bowl XXX (to be played January 1996) to Tempe.
That's a stretch. Texas adopted it that same year, BTW. Phoenix was actually one of the first major cities in the country to adopt MLK Day. I know real racism when I see it, and I only need turn to:Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny RIngo
Outrage over Texas college MLK Day party
JANUARY 25--Students at a Texas college threw a Martin Luther King Jr. Day party that featured attendees wearing gang apparel and Afro wigs, carrying malt liquor, handguns, and fried chicken, and even one woman dressed as Aunt Jemima.
What am I doing? Arguing who's more racist with a TEXAN???!!!
City/State smack is very weak, but not quite as weak as city/state smack coming from the fan of a team that the Spurs ALREADY BEAT. Did you run out of bait or something?
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Originally Posted by Strike
Well that, and the fact that the ratings still aren't going to help the Cavs beat the Spurs in this series.
I still haven't gotten a good answer on why we're supposed to give a flying fuck about ratings....considering we're watching and loving it so far.
Texas was never threatened with a boycott from African-American athletes like Arizona was. At the end of the day Arizona's about as racist as you can get in the US of A.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shred
3.6% of Arizona's population is black. 11.7% of the Texan population is black.
A Phoenix-Cleveland Final wouldn't have done better.
At least we know the Spurs are boring. Whats the reason nobody wants to see Lebron?
Nah we woulda been blown out be Pheonix worst match up ever and no-one would watch...Quote:
Originally Posted by NBA Junkie
Exactly! :tuQuote:
Nah we woulda been blown out be Pheonix worst match up ever and no-one would watch...
You just contradicted yourself. :rolleyesQuote:
Originally Posted by Fast Dunk
What's funny is the lame trolls from other teams trying to hold up the Spurs as boring despite the fact that three of its four Finals appearances have had better ratings than a 1980 series between the Lakers and 76ers that featured Magic, Kareem, and Dr. J and among other things had the 'Magic at center game' and the infamous baseline, one handed reverse scoop layup by Dr. J that we all see all the time in the vintage NBA highlights.
So apparently the 'boring' Spurs > Magic, Kareem, and Dr. J.
Thanks for playing, trolls.
America will watch LeBron James in future years, when his opponent is legitimate. Right now, the country has its back turned to the cheater Spurs, just like they do for Barry Bonds.
it's because people already know what will happen
Spurs winning it's 4th title and i like it :)
Please, the Cavs bore the shit out of me, and everyone else for that matter. ESPN has an article titled "Lebroring" That should tell you something. They also have another article by Bill Simmons proclaiming that this Spurs team fun to watch. Nothing more exciting than watching manu and tony with their drives and finishes. And Horry throwing up a 3 ball, Tim owning the paint. The Cavs are really boring, but anyway, we don't give a shit about ratings when we are about to win our 4th championship!Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Dunk
LOL, you are such a whinny loser. Keep convincing yourself of that!Quote:
Originally Posted by Saguaro
You do realize the Spurs-Pistons finals was rated higher than the legendary 1980 Lakers-Sixers, right? Also, higher than Bird's win over Houston in a similarly lopsided Finals.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Dunk
:dramaqueeQuote:
Originally Posted by Saguaro
Can anyone here explain why the big market Mavs and Heats (Heat even had Shaq) did just .3 better than the Spurs and Pistons??
I guess their cities and teams were... yawn, huh.
Sometimes I wonder if these trolls think posting all their lame shit here will someone make them attractive to the opposite sex.
If NBC had kept the NBA contract over the past five years, the ratings would be about two points higer across the board for each Finals series since 2003.
The Spurs are boring
Sin,
ABC and ESPN
I love watching them take the ratings bullet in the azzzzzzz.
Any network that forces you to listen to Mark Jackson deserves no more than to go out of business.
I rather SAS than Mark Jackson.
Maybe its just really ABC and ESPN's fault. How can you continue to say a team is boring and make it seem like they are not worth watching. Well no one's watching. Its not the Spurs fault....
lol @ cavs fans moral victory of "low ratings" who the fuck cares? here is as much as i care about ratings ............i'd rather have 2 people watch my Spurs win another title then have millions watch my team lose(cavs,suns,heat,lakers)..........fuck your ratings lol im a fan what do ratings have anything to do with me???
Spurs ratings > 1980 Lakers (Magic, Kareem) vs. Sixers (Dr. J) ratingsQuote:
Originally Posted by Saguaro
:sleep
How are record-low ratings a "moral victory" for Cavs fans? They mean either that America is even less interested in the Cavs than they are in the Spurs, or that nobody thinks this series will be remotely competitive.
Associated Press
Jun. 8, 2007 04:36 PM
NEW YORK - Game 1 of the NBA finals drew the lowest rating ever for an opening-game in prime time, dropping 19 percent from last year.
The San Antonio Spurs' 85-76 victory over the Cleveland Cavaliers on Thursday night earned a 6.3 rating and 11 share on ABC. The previous low was a 6.4/11 in 2003.
Last year's Game 1 between Miami and Dallas earned a 7.8 rating and 14 share.
The rating is the percentage watching a telecast among all homes with televisions, and the share is the percentage tuned in to a broadcast among those households with televisions on at the time. A ratings point represents 1,114,000 households.
Yep, Lebron and the Cavs are just a shitty draw. I don't know why their fans expected any different.
:lolQuote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
What about all the people that watched the game at sports bars? What about groups of people that watched at other's houses?
The ratings aren't always accurate because it is mostly estimation based on a small sample size.
In another thread, I speculated that the NBA would move away from its current television strategy with ESPN and TNT.
WRONG.
The NBA is finalizing an eight-year extension of its current deals with Turner and Disney, for a substantial increase in rights fees.
In addition to getting the TV rights, Disney and Turner also will gain rights to streaming video broadcasts of games on their websites, and on-demand video for computers, cell phones, Ipods, and digital cable/satellite TV.
linko
"If a tree falls in the forest and no one is present to hear it, does it make a sound?"Quote:
Originally Posted by Extra Stout
This is the principle Cleveland is operating on.
Crestside Deepthroat is more like it :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Strike
That I believe is the culprit. The marketing of the NBA is horrendous on ABC. + I think the start times are affecting the east coast more so than the west coast. Those are fairly late start times.Quote:
Originally Posted by Extra Stout
This also shows the wave of the future. Its not so much more a "TV" thing.Quote:
The NBA is finalizing an eight-year extension of its current deals with Turner and Disney, for a substantial increase in rights fees.
In addition to getting the TV rights, Disney and Turner also will gain rights to streaming video broadcasts of games on their websites, and on-demand video for computers, cell phones, Ipods, and digital cable/satellite TV.
Nowadays with computers(internets), International marketing, Tivo, merchandising etc. The NBA and the networks make up their money in other areas.
I don't watch network TV except for Jeopardy and as of now basketball. I haven't watched network tv consistently for the last three years.
That's all we should really care about as far as this deal goes. Higher salary caps.Quote:
The NBA is finalizing an eight-year extension of its current deals with Turner and Disney, for a substantial increase in rights fees.
Even better.Quote:
In addition to getting the TV rights, Disney and Turner also will gain rights to streaming video broadcasts of games on their websites, and on-demand video for computers, cell phones, Ipods, and digital cable/satellite TV.
Perhaps others have already pointed this out...but even though the total number of people watching were fewer than in other years, the broadcast was still the most watched show that night. So, please, all the ratings mean is that Thursday night was not a night when most people in America were watching regular network tv. Stern is likely bright enough to know that. Also, since both teams in the finals have so many international players the coverage in foreign lands was likely higher than it would have been with some other teams (like Detroit). People really need to get a grip.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Dunk
who gives a FUCK about the ratings
no one
-Mars
The Spurs are 3 wins away from their 4th championship. Who gives a fuck about ratings?
I think it has to do about the western conference second round "robbery"
Many fans were really mad and made a commitment to boycott the Finals by not watching.
Ratings are important..Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcus Bryant
Too much money on the line.
At this pace we won't have NBA coverage in the near future...