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Re: espn pti: 'if the suns were in the finals like a lot of us think they should be'
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Originally Posted by Spurminator
That's not how I remember it. I remember most fans wishing they could play the Suns at full strength, but admitting that the NBA had no choice on how to enforce the rule.
Actually, I believe that most polls conducted showed about 60-75% of people didn't think that Boris or Amare should've been suspended.
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Re: espn pti: 'if the suns were in the finals like a lot of us think they should be'
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Originally Posted by OldDirtMcGirt
Actually, I believe that most polls conducted showed about 60-75% of people didn't think that Boris or Amare should've been suspended.
I was strictly talking about Spurs fans. And there were even a good number of us who wanted to see the league make an exception.
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Re: espn pti: 'if the suns were in the finals like a lot of us think they should be'
I was ambivalent about whether they should have been suspended, I also didn't think it really helped us in a one game situation since I saw the rest of the Suns digging deep as a result of their feeling of injustice. I did think the anger of the Suns' fans was entertaining, though.
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Re: espn pti: 'if the suns were in the finals like a lot of us think they should be'
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Originally Posted by Shred
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Re: espn pti: 'if the suns were in the finals like a lot of us think they should be'
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Originally Posted by Shred
Translation: "Hopefully, the Spurs won't have to face the Suns on even ground next year.
Been there, done that. WON.
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Re: espn pti: 'if the suns were in the finals like a lot of us think they should be'
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Originally Posted by OldDirtMcGirt
What are some examples of racist action against white people? As far as I know, very few institutions actually use racial quotas, they're just required to look at just as many minorities as they do any other race. And for the record, I don't support affirmative action or any sort of racial quota anyways.
I consider the term "colored people" to be a racist term.
You make a bad name for black people everyone. Consider yourself an embarrassment. :cry
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Re: espn pti: 'if the suns were in the finals like a lot of us think they should be'
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Originally Posted by __JaG__
You make a bad name for black people everyone. Consider yourself an embarrassment. :cry
Should I turn my black card in?
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Re: espn pti: 'if the suns were in the finals like a lot of us think they should be'
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Originally Posted by OldDirtMcGirt
Actually, I believe that most polls conducted showed about 60-75% of people didn't think that Boris or Amare should've been suspended.
The majority of American voters also thought G Dubs should be president back in '04. The lesson we should all learn from this is that the American people are stupid, and polls/elections just serve to repeatedly prove that point.
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Re: espn pti: 'if the suns were in the finals like a lot of us think they should be'
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Originally Posted by OldDirtMcGirt
Should I turn my black card in?
i'm surprised you could understand that. "a bad name for black people everyone"
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Re: espn pti: 'if the suns were in the finals like a lot of us think they should be'
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Originally Posted by conqueso
The majority of American voters also thought G Dubs should be president back in '04. The lesson we should all learn from this is that the American people are stupid, and polls/elections just serve to repeatedly prove that point.
I'm pretty sure that every race can agree on that. :lol
I just misunderstood his point, I thought he said that majority of fans thought that the suspensions were justified.
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Re: espn pti: 'if the suns were in the finals like a lot of us think they should be'
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Originally Posted by ImpartialObserver
Yes, that is true but that wasn't the case imo during the series. After Game 4, most Spurs fans were making posts supporting the enforcement of the rule. There were a very few Spurs fans that stated they wanted to play Phoenix at full strength, and for good reason because deep down they knew like every oddsmaker, most basketball analysts, and most non-Spurs fans that Phoenix would have most likely won a best 2 of 3 series with homecourt advantage.
That's wrong. Immediately after game 4 (go check the game log) most Spurs fans were hoping that the league would just allow everyone to play. The Suns fans then came in stating some combination of Duncan and Bowen should be suspended too with Amare and Diaw should be allowed to play and Horry should be suspended. When Suns fans then began to say that the rule was bullshit because a)Amare was just checking in, b)he just stepped away from the bench (lie), c)he was just checking on his teammate (lie), d)he was going in to be a peacemaker (irrelevant), e)David Stern wants the Spurs to win (haha), f)the Suns already got screwed by the blood rule and should have won game 1, the Spurs fans began to take issue with the willingness by those that want the Spurs to lose, seemingly no matter the reason or the cost to the integrity of the sport. As a result, any sympathy for the Suns fans dried up as they were, almost to a man, unwilling to accept that leaving the bench was the fault of the players that did it and the coaches that allowed them to leave. They weren't looking for fairness, they were looking for any chance to win and an excuse to lose.
In my heart I knew that the Spurs were a vastly better team, as evidenced by the Spurs winning all but one game against the Suns where they showed up ready to play for the entire game since 2005. There's no historical evidence that the Suns can beat the Spurs in a seven game series, and they couldn't even do it in game six. Those of us that wanted the Suns at full strength wanted to make sure the Suns didn't have any excuse for losing, because the Spurs were going to whip them no matter what.
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Re: espn pti: 'if the suns were in the finals like a lot of us think they should be'
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Originally Posted by conqueso
The majority of American voters also thought G Dubs should be president back in '04. The lesson we should all learn from this is that the American people are stupid, and polls/elections just serve to repeatedly prove that point.
Remember that Kerry was leading in the exit polls by a large margin. It says more about the value of polls than anything else.
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Re: espn pti: 'if the suns were in the finals like a lot of us think they should be'
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Originally Posted by OldDirtMcGirt
I just misunderstood his point, I thought he said that majority of fans thought that the suspensions were justified.
The majority of Suns fans wanted Bruce Bowen suspended for jab stepping into Nash and/or for stepping on Amare's shoe. The Suns fans showed how they wanted to win the series from the very beginning, and tipped their hand that they believed they couldn't win it fairly. That they went out and enlisted the help of everyone who hates the Spurs in their campaign to circumvent the rules is hardly surprising. It doesn't change the fact that the suspensions were indeed justified.
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Re: espn pti: 'if the suns were in the finals like a lot of us think they should be'
I am still curious as to why Suns fans think the Suns players are above the rules.
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Re: espn pti: 'if the suns were in the finals like a lot of us think they should be'
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Originally Posted by Shred
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One * next to one, or two, or three, or four Titles is better than no * next to none.
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Re: espn pti: 'if the suns were in the finals like a lot of us think they should be'
if the Suns had pushed the series to 7 games, maybe I'd understand the attitude displayed by Suns fan.
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Re: espn pti: 'if the suns were in the finals like a lot of us think they should be'
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Originally Posted by samikeyp
I am still curious as to why Suns fans think the Suns players are above the rules.
:tu
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Re: espn pti: 'if the suns were in the finals like a lot of us think they should be'
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Originally Posted by Oh, Gee!!
if the Suns had pushed the series to 7 games, maybe I'd understand the attitude displayed by Suns fan.
Remember when most of the Suns fans were saying that the series would be "untainted" only if it went seven games? Do you think a seven game series would have shut them up or made them scream even louder?
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Re: espn pti: 'if the suns were in the finals like a lot of us think they should be'
Hey, there's a guy over at http://nohuddleoffensive.blogspot.com that says he's glad that no one cares about the spurs, maybe we should go post over there for a bit and let him know that some people do!
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Re: espn pti: 'if the suns were in the finals like a lot of us think they should be'
I'm glad no one cares about the Spurs. Makes it more fun for the rest of us.