Yeah but Melo doesn't play defense.
I'd put Lebron in front of Wade as well, but Kobe's untouchable in that 1 spot.
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Yeah but Melo doesn't play defense.
I'd put Lebron in front of Wade as well, but Kobe's untouchable in that 1 spot.
It's a tossup really. I mean Wade is a great player and I think I'd take him over LeBron simply because he's a better free-throw shooter. Carmello I don't know though. He can hit from anywhere, yes, but he's soft and doesn't have a killer instinct. Melo and Kobe are probably the best scorers but Wade and James can get it done in other ways.
So I think it's a tie right now as far as Wade and James are concerned. But Kobe is untouchable as the #1 wing in the NBA.
I would take LeBron over all those other chumps. Combination of youth, size and skills unmatched by any in the NBA.
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Originally Posted by Thunder Dan
that pretty funny , but I don't know if Melo is as far down as a Dodge Dart, if Lebron is a Ferrari :clap
The Spurs OWN lebron, like they own Amare
After one game? I doubt it, LeBron will still average close to 30 in this seriesQuote:
Originally Posted by O-Factor
Unless its a one-game series....no one is owning anything yet.
D-Wade can't shoot, has or has had a security blanket of Shaq and a couple of other future HOF players, and gets his scoring numbers padded by the ridiculous calls he gets.
Carmelo is a great scorer but doesn't distribute and can't get a pretty damned talented team out of the first round. Plus he's a knucklehead.
Kobe is the best pure player of the four, but he doesn't lead, and as much as he's lauded for his 4th-quarter heroics, he goes 1-on-5 and shoots his team out of games too. And the way he quit in Game 7 against PHX last year was damn near shameful.
LeBron does more with less than the other three, and puts up his numbers despite almost never having someone else create easy offense for him.
LBJ >>>> the rest
finally, someone gets it :elephantQuote:
Originally Posted by michaelwcho
Here is a Private Message this idot (O-Factor) sent to me, notice how the bold relates to his last post, and pretty much every post he has:Quote:
Originally Posted by O-Factor
Your a cavs fan that would be happy if the Spurs won the finals huh? You are nothing but a piece of shit troll. We come here for intelligent analysis of the finals and people like you start shit and get pissed when we go on the offensive. Simple as that. Look I've come across your posts and no one is a bigger asshole than you. But there are some of us can be bigger assholes. You don't like me messaging you? Too bad prick.
this guy hasn't an objective bone in his body
:lol and Lebron plays defense? :drunkQuote:
Originally Posted by bdictjames
When they go head to head, Lebron doesnt even want to man up on Melo. He always pansies out and one of his teammates takes Melo :smokin But on the other hand, Melo has asked in past games to man up on James and loves the challenge of it.
Lebron wouldn't know D if it hit him on the head.
Lebron vs Denver this season - 24ppg (40% shooting, 14% from 3)
Melo vs Cleveland - 27ppg (63% shooting) only one game though, he missed the 2nd game
It doesn't matter what Lebron averages in these 4 games of the series. We are still going to own him. He wont win a game in this series, that much is obvious!Quote:
Originally Posted by Cleveland Steamer
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Originally Posted by Thunder Dan
Glad you are getting my message out. I stand by every word of it....Its kind of hard to be objective when we completely controlled every facet of the game, and that is because we were rusty, especially offensively. You don't like it, too bad, this is a Spurs forum!
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Originally Posted by O-Factor
you have never posted one thing that shows any knowledge about basketball. You just ra-ra the Spurs in every post, and I'm not just talking about your posts against the Cavs, its the Suns, the Mavs, anyone who isn't the Spurs. Your a complete idiot and have never posted anything with any sort of intelligence ever. It doesn't suprise me seeing that you are either a)12-15 years old, b) a older uneducated gent. say 25-32 who lives with his parents working a dead end job and lives only for the Spurs and nothing else. Somehow I know one of those hit it right on the head.
Typical post by you:
"The Suns suck, we own them period"
http://damnhomie.ytmnd.com/
make sure sound is on
:lol
How the hell is Melo on that list? He's one of the top offensive players in the league, but he doesn't play an ounce of defense. Both ends are equally important.
and since that dunk on Sheed... LeBron is better than Wade, somethin switched on in his head at that moment, he's a completly different player. He's just got no chance in this series. Wade woulda got swept too
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Originally Posted by Dro210
WTF are you talking about, he had a mediocre game 6 and a shitty game 1 on thursday.
BTW, you say Melo doesn't play defense? Has anyone ever accused James of playing defense?
If I'm starting a team and can pick any wing right now, I'd pick LeBron hands down. It's not even close.
LeBron can score. He's a very good rebounder. He has turned in to a very good defender recently. He gets blocks and steals. But above all, LeBron is one of the best passers I've ever seen from a guy his size. He has amazing court vision and is a very willing passer.
LeBron's intangibles are off the charts. He's a great leader who is all about winning. His teammates love him and will go to war for him. LeBron is damn smart on the court and off of it. He's been in the spotlight since he was 15 so he can handle pressure.
Wade is a great player but he's injury prone. Kobe is the best scorer in the game but he's a horrible leader and a horrible teammate ... and he's a very unwilling passer. Carmelo is probably the second best scorer in the league but he doesn't play defense, isn't a good passer and doesn't have many intangibles.
There are some horrible takes in this thread. LeBron has an off game so Spurs fans throw him under the bus :lol
If you gave GMs the option of picking any wing in the league, almost all of them would take LeBron.
Melo is a damn human turnstile.... He's one of the worst defenders in the NBA along with Steve Nash...... Bron may not be All-NBA, but he's sure as hell alot better than Melo.
Game 6 wasn't a poor performance just because he didn't put up 48 again. It's not even about that. It's about him finally realizing that 'hey, i'm lebron james... im supposed to be doing this shit'...... he finally gets that... the sky is the limit for him now. Trust me.... one day...... sports people will universally look back on that play (the dunk on sheed) and say that's when it all started. LeBron up until that exact point had only played like a shell of himself. If you had really been paying attention to him over the years, you would have seen that happen right before your eyes too.
but like I said, he has no chance in this series.
Timvp, take everything you just said, and think about just how much more applicable it is to D Wade. Injury prone? Becuase of one injury?
Wade is as good if not better as a passer than lebron.
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Originally Posted by RobinsontoDuncan
I like Manu as much as anybody but he's in a system now that maximizes all his skills. He plays next to Bowen so he rarely ever has to guard anyone of consequence one on one. He has Duncan in the post and Parker driving the lane to open the perimeter for him. He's in a free flowing offense that let's him drive whenever he wants. And when teams prepare for the Spurs, their first two priorities are figuring out a way to handle Tim and keep Parker out of the lane.
What you see now is Manu at his peak. In no other situation would he be better. Spurs fans like to pretend he's like a Michael Jordan who Pop is mean to so he only gets to play 30 minutes a game. That's all Manu can play and be able to keep his energy from game to game. And that's without having many defensive responsibilities or teams gearing their entire defense to stop him.
Manu is a great player but he's not LeBron and he's not a player that could go to his own team and be a 30 points, 7 rebound and 7 assist superstar.
Uh, Wade has been hurt in three out of his four playoffs. He turned an ankle his rookie season, in '05 he got hurt in the ECF leading to the Heat not making the Finals and this year he had a hurt shoulder and when he got back, his knee flared up.Quote:
Originally Posted by RobinsontoDuncan
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Originally Posted by RobinsontoDuncan
On what planet? Wade is a really good passer but he also has much better teammates. LeBron has a natural ability to pass the ball that you find once in a generation in a player his size.
On top of that, LeBron is three years younger, has much more potential that he can reach and has much better size.
Lebron >>>>>> Wade
any day of the week
Wade is great but is constantly got something wrong with him.
He also doesnt play well with injuries like an Allen Iverson.
Jesus Christ you Cleveland posters are a bunch of homers, there is no way you can call LeBron a better shooter than Wade.
Wade Field goal percentage's per year
03-04 .465
04-05 .478
05-06 .495
06-07 .491
Career playoffs shooting percentage= .479
Here's LeBron's shooting percentages
03-04 .417
04-05 .472
05-06 .480
06-07 .476
career playoff shooting percentage .449
^LeBron's also shot over 1,000 more 3's in his career than Wade. Which is gonna make a pretty good dent in any field goal % comparison