Duncan's Orlando decision

Whew!
Did anyone see this in today's Dime?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/dailyd...ilydime-070610

I wonder what ultimately made his decision. Whatever is was, I'm glad he stayed! :spin

Cover your eyes, Orlando.

We've got more this close heartbreak for you.

Tim Duncan unexpectedly announced on the eve of Game 2 that his decision in 2000 to spurn free-agent riches from the Magic to stay with the Spurs "was probably a lot closer decision than people even think or even know."

Gulp.

"It's worked out the right way, to say the least, and I can't even go through all the factors that went into making the final decisions to come back," Duncan said.

So for those of you in the Magic Kingdom who are brave enough to keep score ...

Orlando's nine-figure contract offer to Shaquille O'Neal wasn't enough to convince Shaq to stay in 1996 ... and Duncan was apparently more serious about joining Grant Hill four summers later than the basketball world ever realized ... and Billy Donovan just set a land-speed record for backing out of the lucrative coaching agreement that had folks in Central Florida believing that their string of free-agent miseries -- Shaq, Duncan, Hill and Tracy McGrady are the most prominent four -- had finally been broken.

-- Marc Stein, in San Antonio

I'm glad he stayed too.

Why is the press so concerned about the past? In all the media availability sessions so far some reporter has asked Duncan about Orlando and about the Kidd/Parker issue. They asked Parker about the Kidd issue also.

Is there nothing better to ask? Have they run out of questions regarding this year's Finals already?

I thought I was sick of LeBron hype. But at least that's current!

I'd still be a Spurs fan, and I'd be booing Duncan. I've been booing Barry Bonds since he left the Pirates.

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Originally Posted by duncan228

I'm glad he stayed too.

Why is the press so concerned about the past? In all the media availability sessions so far some reporter has asked Duncan about Orlando and about the Kidd/Parker issue. They asked Parker about the Kidd issue also.

Is there nothing better to ask? Have they run out of questions regarding this year's Finals already?

I thought I was sick of LeBron hype. But at least that's current!

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I don't know why they asked about this now either...but now that it's been brought up, I am curious. I wonder if Robinson swayed him to stay.

They're just looking for Spurs related feature material to use when the series shifts back to Cleveland.

:lol

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Originally Posted by Obstructed_View

I'd still be a Spurs fan, and I'd be booing Duncan. I've been booing Barry Bonds since he left the Pirates.

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I've been booing Barry Bonds since his head expanded.

-Mars

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Originally Posted by SpursFanFirst

Whew!
Did anyone see this in today's Dime?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/dailyd...ilydime-070610

I wonder what ultimately made his decision. Whatever is was, I'm glad he stayed! :spin

Cover your eyes, Orlando.

We've got more this close heartbreak for you.

Tim Duncan unexpectedly announced on the eve of Game 2 that his decision in 2000 to spurn free-agent riches from the Magic to stay with the Spurs "was probably a lot closer decision than people even think or even know."

Gulp.

"It's worked out the right way, to say the least, and I can't even go through all the factors that went into making the final decisions to come back," Duncan said.

So for those of you in the Magic Kingdom who are brave enough to keep score ...

Orlando's nine-figure contract offer to Shaquille O'Neal wasn't enough to convince Shaq to stay in 1996 ... and Duncan was apparently more serious about joining Grant Hill four summers later than the basketball world ever realized ... and Billy Donovan just set a land-speed record for backing out of the lucrative coaching agreement that had folks in Central Florida believing that their string of free-agent miseries -- Shaq, Duncan, Hill and Tracy McGrady are the most prominent four -- had finally been broken.

-- Marc Stein, in San Antonio

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david came to the rescue

david can get superstars to sign with the team duncan can not

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Originally Posted by SpursFanFirst

I don't know why they asked about this now either...but now that it's been brought up, I am curious. I wonder if Robinson swayed him to stay.

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Duncan wasn't specific in the interview, he said it was "the people, the organization" that led him to stay.

I've read different things over the years, one of which was that Robinson played a big role in helping him decide.

I think it was a combination of all of it. Duncan fits the Spurs, or maybe the Spurs fit him. Pop has been his only pro coach, it's been said many times they get along beautifully. I think Duncan had begun to build his life in SA by the time Orlando came calling, it would make sense that "riches" wouldn't sway him if he was happy there.

All in all it worked out well for Duncan, the Spurs, and the fans.

I just don't understand why they're asking now. I don't remember them asking in the '05 run.

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Originally Posted by ClingingMars

I've been booing Barry Bonds since his head expanded.

-Mars

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Literally or figuratively? Just so I know the timeline.

The media is searching for controversy to spice up this series so they have to go back 7 years when TD was a free agent.

"Free-agent riches"?

Holt Cat's not getting his services for minimum wage.

Wasn't the most Orlando could offer something like 10% over what he was getting?

It's not like they broke open Fort Knox and he said no thanks...

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Originally Posted by Marcus Bryant

The media is searching for controversy to spice up this series so they have to go back 7 years when he was a free agent.

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:lol

He really needs some street cred.
Getting a ref tossed wasn't enough.

I love they way he handles the press though. A simple "Let's just leave it at that" shuts them all up.

I think it was the cold cuts.

According to Buck Harvey, it was the Magic's refusal to let Tim's girlfriend, now wife, Amy ride with him on the team plane that had a lot to do with his final decision. Something Pop never had a problem with either Tim or any of the players. I remember Buck wrote an article about it, don't know how much truth there is in it. But it's something that points to the laid back style that Pop has about team rules off the court. There is no laid back in his rules about playing the game on the court.

Didn't David just sit him down and convince him to stay basically?

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Originally Posted by pjjrfan

But it's something that points to the laid back style that Pop has about team rules off the court. There is no laid back in his rules about playing the game on the court.

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I don't think it's "laid back" as much as "family first."
I've always understood the entire Spurs organization has a "family" feel to it. For a player that's on the road half his season it has to be nice to have your family with you (if you want them with you!)

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Originally Posted by Obstructed_View

Literally or figuratively? Just so I know the timeline.

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Since I noticed it...around 02, 03

-Mars

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Originally Posted by fuckespn

Didn't David just sit him down and convince him to stay basically?

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It would appear that Robinson was part but not all of it.

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Originally Posted by pjjrfan

According to Buck Harvey, it was the Magic's refusal to let Tim's girlfriend, now wife, Amy ride with him on the team plane that had a lot to do with his final decision. Something Pop never had a problem with either Tim or any of the players. I remember Buck wrote an article about it, don't know how much truth there is in it. But it's something that points to the laid back style that Pop has about team rules off the court. There is no laid back in his rules about playing the game on the court.

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I've never actually heard that, but, if that's true, it says a lot about his relationship with her. That's cool.

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Originally Posted by pjjrfan

According to Buck Harvey, it was the Magic's refusal to let Tim's girlfriend, now wife, Amy ride with him on the team plane that had a lot to do with his final decision. Something Pop never had a problem with either Tim or any of the players. I remember Buck wrote an article about it, don't know how much truth there is in it. But it's something that points to the laid back style that Pop has about team rules off the court. There is no laid back in his rules about playing the game on the court.

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Could be. It's like any other job: Morale = Productivity

He's just trying to butter up Dwight Howard.

'08 plan just officially kicked off.

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Originally Posted by pjjrfan

According to Buck Harvey, it was the Magic's refusal to let Tim's girlfriend, now wife, Amy ride with him on the team plane that had a lot to do with his final decision. Something Pop never had a problem with either Tim or any of the players. I remember Buck wrote an article about it, don't know how much truth there is in it. But it's something that points to the laid back style that Pop has about team rules off the court. There is no laid back in his rules about playing the game on the court.

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Was that actually written? I thought that was just a rumor by disgruntled Magic fans to make it seem like it was Amy's fault he didn't move.

He was certainly thinking about it can't blame him for that. Tim is never leaving SA now though he and POP are like father and Son and this team will be contenders for at least another 3 years.

Will Howard be unrestricted in '08?

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Event #24,568 where David Robinson saved the franchise.

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Originally Posted by timvp

Event #24,568 where David Robinson saved the franchise.

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Might as well give him 50% share

-Mars

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Originally Posted by ClingingMars

Might as well give him 50% share

-Mars

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David saved the franchise and then Timmy came along and made them one of the great franchises in all of sports.

do you remember those black and hot pink posters that HEB gave out that said WE LOVE TIM on them??? ohhh mannn I remember those days. places had flags that said WE LOVE TIM too...good times

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Originally Posted by Marcus Bryant

Will Howard be unrestricted in '08?

:stirpot:

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Howard has a qualifying offer in 08-09, so does that make him restricted?

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Originally Posted by Despot

Howard has a qualifying offer in 08-09, so does that make him restricted?

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If Orlando makes it, yes.

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If Orlando makes it, yes.

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Well, it is obvious that they would, if they can't agree on a contract.

I can't see the Spurs working out a sign and trade, so I guess that takes him off the board.

Anyways, it would take something catastrophic for the Spurs to lose TD at this point. Obviously he would expect them to show a commitment to winning championships from this point forward, but the Spurs have the pieces in place, from the coaching staff to having established 2nd and 3rd stars and a proven track record. Maybe I'm wrong and he feels like he's proven everything he could in SA and would like the challenge of winning with another team for his legacy, but that doesn't seem like him. If he was to leave SA, that would've happened 7 years ago.

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Originally Posted by fuckespn

Didn't David just sit him down and convince him to stay basically?

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Pop had asked David to go to the VI's, from his vacation in Hawaii, and try and convince TD to stay.... Anyways.... TD said that David had put on this hour long speech about why he should stay, and after it was over TD said "David, David, David.... You had me from hello" and gave david a hug.... He said over all that was why he decided to stay...

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Originally Posted by sheriee84

Pop had asked David to go to the VI's, from his vacation in Hawaii, and try and convince TD to stay.... Anyways.... TD said that David had put on this hour long speech about why he should stay, and after it was over TD said "David, David, David.... You had me from hello" and gave david a hug.... He said over all that was why he decided to stay...

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Where did you get this?

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Originally Posted by duncan228

I'm glad he stayed too.

Why is the press so concerned about the past? In all the media availability sessions so far some reporter has asked Duncan about Orlando and about the Kidd/Parker issue. They asked Parker about the Kidd issue also.

Is there nothing better to ask? Have they run out of questions regarding this year's Finals already?

I thought I was sick of LeBron hype. But at least that's current!

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Because the national media is just now figuring out that all these things happened...... Come on now.... You know they don't pay attention to the Spurs!

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Anyways.... TD said that David had put on this hour long speech about why he should stay, and after it was over TD said "David, David, David.... You had me from hello"

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:lol Damn, that was funny!

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Originally Posted by Summers

Was that actually written? I thought that was just a rumor by disgruntled Magic fans to make it seem like it was Amy's fault he didn't move.

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I remember Doc Rivers waiting in a limo of a bunch of girls in bikinis picking him up and everyone said they lost Timmy right there. I don't know how much truth there is to that and wasn't it Shaq who offered to rent his house out to Tim just to get him out of the West?

But still Orlando was getting excited about possibly adding Duncan, Hill, and McGrady that offseason....I would have definitely been scared

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Originally Posted by sheriee84

Pop had asked David to go to the VI's, from his vacation in Hawaii, and try and convince TD to stay.... Anyways.... TD said that David had put on this hour long speech about why he should stay, and after it was over TD said "David, David, David.... You had me from hello" and gave david a hug.... He said over all that was why he decided to stay...

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:clap *sniffles* Just beautiful. DRob certainly is da man!

The Buck Harvery reference I believe is correct - it's been a few years but I do believe he wrote this in his column.

Doc with hookers for Timmy? :rollin Oh, man. I can certainly imagine Timmy's face if that had happened.

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Originally Posted by sheriee84

Pop had asked David to go to the VI's, from his vacation in Hawaii, and try and convince TD to stay.... Anyways.... TD said that David had put on this hour long speech about why he should stay, and after it was over TD said "David, David, David.... You had me from hello" and gave david a hug.... He said over all that was why he decided to stay...

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Hand me a tissue. I wanna cry.

Tim should demand a trade after this season if they don't bring Scola