Thanks... I am relieved. For one second I believed our backup PG were the only one on earth not looking good when playing with Duncan.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArgSpursFan
Even Beno can't be that bad.
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Thanks... I am relieved. For one second I believed our backup PG were the only one on earth not looking good when playing with Duncan.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArgSpursFan
Even Beno can't be that bad.
This thread is tops. I have an exam tomorrow and i'm comparing TP to long passed french people....
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Originally Posted by mattyc
my exam was yesterday so i'm ready to compare tony to every frenchies, from Napoléon to Boris Diaw...
Christian Dior vs Tony Parker
Louis Vuitton vs Tony Parker
Astérix and Obelix vs Tony Parker
André the Giant vs Tony Parker
Who the hell is André the GiantQuote:
Originally Posted by mattyc
Here in France he is a total unknown (I needed to check on google)
actually, Asterix and Obelix are "gaullois", which means they were supposed to live before France even existed...
as for andré the giant, never heard of him...
I am sure Manu Ginobili is the best PG in the league right now, he is the best at everything according to his church.
Wrong he is only second behind LebronQuote:
Originally Posted by ambchang
improved a lot in playoffs, however, didn't shine in difficult moments yet, mostly in easy victories.Quote:
Originally Posted by SequSpur
BTW, you can say he's the best SCORING guard, cause when he shines, is when he scores a lot, he never shines by having a huge game regarding direction.
Complete and utter Bullshit. In case you haven't noticed, Parker has perfected his jumpshot. When he is on, he is unguardable.Quote:
Originally Posted by vand3537
Disproven as above. And his passing has improved as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by vand3537
He's looked great the entire playoffs! Every night he consistently score 20 points or more.Quote:
Originally Posted by vand3537
He hung with Steve Nash, the "best" PG in the game (although how many Finals as Steve Nash been in? How many rings has he won? Funny how someone can be so good, and not have the hardware).
I'll say tied with Parker. Rings count for something, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by vand3537
Is this for MVP of a team or for best point guard period?Quote:
Originally Posted by vand3537
Because Tony > Billups.
Yeah, that worked out for the Nuggets didn't it?Quote:
Originally Posted by vand3537
I love AI, but at this point in his career, Tony is better than AI now.
Deron is better than Tony how? Agreed that this guy will become a great point guard, but he's not at Tony's level yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by vand3537
This proves you're full of shit. How can the best player in the Finals be the number 7 PG on your list?Quote:
Originally Posted by vand3537
I know Cavs suck, but shouldn't Tim be getting 30+ points a game if it's so easy?
No, you don't. If you "loved" Tony, you'd rank him higher than 7. :rolleyesQuote:
Originally Posted by vand3537
Right, because our backup PGs look so good.Quote:
Originally Posted by vand3537
I'm not going to pull the stats of all those players, but please show me Parkers playoff numbers versus any of those guys, and we'll see who wins.Quote:
Originally Posted by vand3537
Parker has been superb. He is the MVP of the first two games.
Nah . . . that is only for the blind members of his Church.Quote:
Originally Posted by ambchang
I think it was about time this forum dedicated a thread to Parker. He has been the best spur in the finals
Parker for MVP!
church of Tony >>> Church of Manu
and I am a proud member of the 2nd
Tony has been stellar with his offense, but let's not forget about how good his defense has been throughout these playoffs.
Now look at that list of PGs and think defense...
P.S. Isn't Andre the Giant Canadian?
Don't forget Thierry Henry !
André the Giant is definitely not French (he is a wrestler right ? we do not have those in France)
André the [dead] Giant, nee André René Roussimoff, was born to French parents of Bulgarian and Polish descent in a small farm near Ussy-sur-Marne. (Wiki).Quote:
Originally Posted by Slomo
Tony is playing well enough to be MVP of the series if he continues at that level, but he's a combo guard and not a true PG. And that's OK as long as you have a PF like Duncan who can get 8 assists in a Finals game. Tony's play fits the Spurs' system now that Pop has quit trying to make a traditional PG out of him.
Laetitia Casta vs. Tony Parker.Quote:
Originally Posted by mattyc
Sorry, Tony . . .
I just voted for him as ESPN's King of the Night on Sports Center. Its not to surprising that the only states that have heavily voted for him are Texas, Oklahoma, and New Mexico.
Interesting that Mark Stein, even with Tony's very good play, thinks Duncan is the MVP at this point:
http://insider.espn.go.com/espn/blog...ame=stein_marc
I keep hearing it after just two games of these NBA Finals: Tony Parker for Finals MVP.
Sacre bleu.
Let's forget, for a moment, that (a) it might be a bit premature to be talking about this kind of stuff and (b) that real Frenchmen would never express astonishment so geekily.
Let's go ahead and skip ahead -- on the assumption that the Spurs will be finishing Cleveland off in five games (or less) -- and focus purely on the fact that Parker simply can't be favored to snag this hardware.
Over Tim Duncan?
Barring an unfathonable drop-off from No. 21 in whatever is left of this season, Duncan is still the most deserving Spur.
That's no slight to Parker, who truly was the most dynamic player in San Antonio's first two victories, using his speed, guile and peerless knack for getting into the paint -- as well as his sharpened jumper -- to ring up 27 points in Game 1 and another 30 in Game 2. Can't say it any better than my man Mike Wise wrote it in Monday's Washington Post: "Two games down, LeBron has been outplayed by Le Blur."
However …
Even though league officials reminded me Monday that this award is based purely on the Finals and not meant to go to the MVP of the entire playoffs by taking earlier rounds into account -- yes, I double-checked for confirmation -- I'd still go with Duncan.
I suspect Parker couldn't do what he does offensively if Cleveland's big men could leave Duncan the way San Antonio's big men give help on LeBron James.
Nor could Parker be an rim-attacking game breaker if the Spurs weren't controlling the tempo, which also flows from Duncan's mere presence.
In 2005, when Duncan beat out Manu Ginobili for Finals MVP by one vote -- sparking a fury in Argentina that still persists to this day among my colleagues in the prensa down there -- there was a genuine debate in play because of Duncan's struggles in that series. The Pistons were at the height of their powers and guarded Duncan as well as anyone has in a playoff series.
In this series, Parker is bound to be the flashiest Spur because Cleveland hasn't found anyone who can guard him … and I doubt starting Daniel Gibson over Larry Hughes on Parker would make much difference.
Either way, Duncan remains the most dominant player of this postseason. It's no different in the Finals than it was in each of the previous three rounds. The Spurs are winning battles all over the floor against the overmatched East champs, but their success still starts with Duncan just about anywhere you want to look.
If you don't believe me, listen to Spurs coach Gregg Popovich.
"[Duncan] does whatever he does offensively pretty naturally," Pop says. "But on defense, this was probably his best year defensively in three, four, five years. Not just blocking shots and rebounding, but being in position, guarding people one-on-one on the post or out on the floor. He had an excellent year defensively and it's continued in the playoffs and even increased based on blocked shots and that sort of thing."
If you don't believe Pop and me, listen to the Frenchman himself.
"Whatever happens, Timmy's the man," Parker said when someone asked after Sunday night's Game 2 victory if he should be listed now as the Finals MVP favorite.
"Timmy is the star on our team."
I liked that answer as much as anything I've seen in this series from Parker.
He might end up forcing LeBron to revise his rankings -- James said Sunday night that Parker was "probably the second-best point guard we've played in the postseason" behind New Jersey's Jason Kidd -- but Parker knows the deal.
Parker =MVP
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Originally Posted by Fast Dunk
"Mark my Words" ... :lol Oh god, another dire warning. *yawn*
Like the man said, were you even watching G2???
:rolleyes
Parker hasn't reached that pantheon as the best player in the league at his position, but he's within striking distance. He has a pretty tough competition though, with so many young, up & coming talented PG's around the league.
ITs parker time!
Don't forget The Spurs are playing against the Cavs.Parker is a very good point guard but he's not as good as Nash right now.Deron Williams was better than him in the West Finals.Is D-Williams better than Parker? You can't say "Parker is the best point guard of the league" even if he win the MVP.TD plays with SA.That's why TP had 3 rings and maybe the reason why Nash never played the NBA Finals.Do you think that you can make a championship team around Parker?
You can take out Parker of the team and we could play the NBA Finals too.Take out Duncan and tell me what happen