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Let's not get a persecution complex. The world is not out to get us.
Mike and Mike are always idiots about everything...especially the Mike Greenberg or whatever the other Mike is, not Mike Golic. That guy is such a pussy-faced cunt, he couldn't get enough bitching out of the result of the Spurs-Suns series.
Well LeBron should think he was fouled - because he was. I was surprised about the non-call as well. I was really expecting a whiny, excuse-ridden post-game (thanks Phoenix) - I was impressed that LeBron handled it so well. That speaks well of him.Quote:
Originally Posted by PHAT TONY
I really prefer Colin Cowherd to M&M, because he makes sensational claims but then allows people to call in and dispute....to which he distorts their arguments and makes them look like idiots, but still, it makes for good radio.
M&M are "general" sports fans and they're going to chase the big headlines and talk about the controversy...it's what they do.
Agreed on all counts...Quote:
Originally Posted by coopdogg3
Fine, be blind homers.
It was a foul, and it was a blown call. The issue isnt whether he would have made all 3 shots (doubt it), the issue is he should have had the chance to.
All in all, that game was butt ugly. I expect a very friendly whistle for the Cavs next game.
They never give a continuation call when the player throws up a shot after contact, especially when it's near the end of the game and the shot is taken 5 feet behind the 3-point line.
Kobe tries that stuff all the time and he never gets it.
it was a bad call, but there were so many bad calls.Quote:
Originally Posted by dav4463
Lebron wasn't going up to shoot until AFTER the foul occurred. Mike Brown even admitted as much in the post-game, he said he told James to look for the foul and James told him that if Bowen fouled him on the floor he was going to go up immediately and try and get the refs to call it a shooting foul.
Woulda been two on the floor if they called it. LeBron didn't get screwed, the refs were trying to let him get a shot at a clean three instead of sending him to the line for two.
Yeah, that idiot saying the Finals are not like the bulls atmosphere with flash and highlights. If that is the case get the hell off that seat go home and pop in the DVD of the 90's NBA finals with the bulls. His show on ESPN sucks that idiot does not belong there with barry's brother and grant hill.
Again, it's not the Spurs fault the refs didn't call the foul. As Aggie says, they were probably doing LeBron a favor (letting him shoot a 3 rather than lose the game with 2 FTs).
Didn't the Spurs have a foul to give? If so, and it was not a continuation play, there would have been no FT's anyway.
Oh yeah, I forgot about that. I've slept since then. Can you imagine James hitting the three and the officials waving it off to give them the ball out of bounds? No win situation for the zebras.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoMoneyDown
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Originally Posted by Obstructed_View
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Oh, man. No wonder they didn't call it, I forgot they had a foul to give as well.
Man, Spurs played terrific D last night, and all we hear about is what a boring game it was and... oh, so-and-so had a no-hitter in baseball.
Why is it so impressive to have a no-hitter, but when we hold the Cavs to 72, it's just boring?
That was an exciting game, but it was incredibly bad basketball on both ends.
Come on guys, it's media....they HAVE to say this stuff to fill newspapers or radio segments, who cares?
Are you kidding me? Ginobili gets that call all the time, and so do alot of other players.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spurminator
Having said that, I don't think he should've expected the call as it was the waning moments in a playoff game...refs hardly call anything in that situation.
They don't get those calls at the end of games when they throw up a three pointer 5 feet behind the basket after the foul. Ginobili gets continuation when he's driving towards the basket.
Have any of you seen some of the rediculous continuation fouls refs have given?!?! I've seen guys get hacked at the three point line, keep the dribble alive, then put the ball in for the layup after the whistle had been blown and STILL get continuation.
James got hit as the ball was coming up, so he decided to shoot figuring that he'd get the call. He didn't put the ball back on the floor....it would've been continuation.
The foul was before the shot anyway so the whole fucking argument (hey Wilbon I'm talking to you too) is irrelevant.
lol
Wrong. One of Ginobili's pattented moves is to pick up his dribble, pump fake, get the defender to commit in the air, wait until the contact is created, then jack up a shot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spurminator
Listen, I'm not complaining about it...it's a savvy veteran move and I love it when Gino puts it on guys. But it's the same thing.....wait until contact is initiated and throw up a shot to get continuation.
But, I agree with your point about the ref's no-call in the last seconds of an NBA Finals game.
No, Manu fouled at the 1:55 mark.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoMoneyDown
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Ginobili Foul:Shooting (2 PF) 1:55
1:55
[CLE 64-67] James Free Throw 1 of 2 (20 PTS)
1:55
[CLE 65-67] James Free Throw 2 of 2 (21 PTS)
The ball was off the floor, he never put it back down, and he immediately went into the shooting motion once the contact was created....Quote:
Originally Posted by Budkin
IF it was a foul, it was a continuation foul.
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Originally Posted by PHAT TONY
How is Ginobili's pump fake shot anything like what I described? When has he ever done that 5 feet behind the three point line in an instance where everybody knows he had no intention of shooting from there?
A pump fake, usually, is part of a shooting motion. It's a whole lot different from being fouled behind the line and turning to launch a shot after contact was made.