i like tony. he's my favorite spurs player. duncan is a close second.
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i like tony. he's my favorite spurs player. duncan is a close second.
I disagree completely.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kori Ellis
There isn't a foreign country in popular US media that is more consistently stereotyped and made fun of than France. Look at sport writers, comedians, Hollywood movies... It's always the same jokes about the French.
And I believe that if rubs off on the average American, so although they might not know much about the country they will revert to what they are being fed by the media.
I also think it has gotten worse since the freedom fries bullshit.
Now I do hate quite a lot of French people, but these are people I've met personally and have made my life miserable - that's until I realize I was quite a bit taller than they were and started kicking the shit out of them, which probably created a large group of French people who hate Yugoslavians (yes it was a while back).
Despite that I don't hate the whole French nation (or any other nation for that matter) just the few assholes I know personally (and I know quite a few of those that are non-French as well).
As for Tony I really like the guy for a very simple reason - he improved every single season he's been with the Spurs. That's tough and requires a maturity usually not found in players his age.
Very few american people know anything or care anything about the French. It is true that if you watch (and believe...) Foxnews you may end up hating them, but, frankly, I hope american people are more clever than that - and based on the 3 years I've spent in the US, I believe so. About Texan people, actually I thought they were pretty cool (I met a few of them in New York and Houston) despite certain habits or customs we indeed do not share at all ...
Manu lover here. The foul was dumb but saying we lost it because of him it's ridiculous. Last time I checked it was a team playing 7 games against a very good team. And then there were the refs as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by MadDog73
My fave player is TP right now, but I just want Tim to get it becuase of what that 4th MVP finals trophy will mean. But like I said before if TP gets it. It won't be a bad thing at all, I will be happy for him!
If I had an MVP vote, I'd probably vote for Duncan or Bowen. But if Parker wins, not only will it be justifiable, it'd be some nice justice for all the crap he's taken over the years.
I think he's the most underappreciated star the Spurs have ever had. Parker has been hated on for nearly his whole career by Spurs fans and I've never really understood it. If you take a poll at a Spurs game asking who their favorite player is, Manu would get about 70% of the vote, Duncan would get about 15% and Parker would come in between third and fifth -- but no where near Manu or even Duncan.
Why? I think the following reasons:
--Manu might be the most well liked Spur of all-time. Seriously. Gervin had his detractors. Robinson had his detractors. Duncan even bores his own fans. Manu is not only Latin (or is it Hispanic?), but he's also one of the most exciting players in the league. Manu plays his heart out. I can't really admonish Spurs fans for their love affair with him because it's justified. He's awesome. But because they love Manu so much, Parker gets in the way because the only thing between Manu having the ball and not having the ball is Parker.
--He has that point guard arrogance on the court. Parker has to wave people off. He has to not pass it to Manu sometimes. He has to be a bit of an azz on the court sometimes. But without that arrogance, he wouldn't be a good point guard. Name any great point guard over the years and they weren't nice on the court. Without arrogance, you can't be a good point guard.
--Parker has the Hollywood girlfriend and he raps. The only thing San Antonio hates more than the Hollywood lifestyle is rap. San Antonio is about as anti-Hollywood as it gets. And rap and hip hop music is probably less popular in San Antonio than any other big city in America.
--Parker is French. I don't think this is a huge factor but you have to remember that San Antonio is a military city first. If any town in America is going to hold a grudge against the French, it's San Antonio. This is the town that booed Wang Zhizhi in one of his first NBA games because Wang is from China. This isn't a huge factor, but it is a factor.
Someone asked whether the MVP award would make Parker more or less liked in San Antonio and that's a good question. That's a good question that I don't know the answer to. I just hope that if it happens, it happens on the road because I wouldn't put it past Spurs fans to boo Parker if he won it at home.
That is a good question. I hope if he gets it people don't boo at him. If the media gives him the award it is because he deserved it more than TD in my opinion. But as a Manu lover, I would only want for Manu to have the opportunity at least of starting next year and don't be put back in the bench just because they play crap. I don't think it's fair making him pay for it regardless of the first team attitute. If they play crap, they play crap. For Manu I'm sure he doesn't feel this ring values more than that one he got 2 years ago. He made a comment when he won in 2005 where that ring was more valuable for him that the one in 2003 because of his involvement. I'm sure he doesn't feel 100% now. If you send him to the bench, he just goes under the radar like what happened to the sixth man award. I'm sorry but it's not Parker hate, its just being fair.Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
San Antonio is not LA so..people love nice guys not stars.. oups
its not hate just jalouesy (i guess love a little)... (just like the irak war, french was right..)
I hate these fascist bastards too...DiCanio has a freakin' Mussolini tatoo on his shoulder...the public boo their own black players whe they touch the ball !!! :dizzy :dizzyQuote:
Originally Posted by stéphane
tonys the shit right now, hes freaking rich, his soon to be wife is freaking hot, and hes about to be a freaking champ and might be mvp...the only reason why i think why you wouldnt like tony is JELOUSY!!!
You kidding? That's exactly how to properly colonize a place! :winkQuote:
Originally Posted by GrandeDavid
Seriously, I think Tony is the closest thing to an "anti-Spur" we have. Manu doesn't care if he starts. Tim never plays to the crowd, always talks team-first, etc. Pop thinks he's some joke of a coach. Tony, on the other hand, likes the limelight - the hot Hollywood GF, the rap album. He even said he sometimes gets a little frustrated about not getting more recognition.
Now I understand all that, but I admire the shit out of Tony because in spite of all of his peripheral stuff, he is all business. You can see that every year he adds a new element to his game. He plays through pain all the time and manages it well. He's relentless. He has turned the weaknesses in his game into strengths.
I have a soft spot for Tim among our big three, but we are unbelievable lucky to have three great talents who care this much about competing and winning. That's why we have this dynasty - the players may change, but those players work their asses off to be the best. Whether it was David, Sean, and Avery in 1999, or Manu, Tony and Bruce today.
Don't forget that Tony came out against the Spurs' pursuit of Jason Kidd after the 2003 season. I think subconsciously this still has some effect on people's perception of him, even if they've concluded that we are better off.
I dont know about you guys but TP is my second favorite Spur, in 2003 I wouldve been so devastated if they got rid of him.
Tony Parker will go to atleast 5 more all star games.
He's no Derek Anderson, but then again who is??
:lol I'd like to see you find that quote.Quote:
Originally Posted by SRJ
Tony is actually probably one of the humblest Spurs.
He always praises team first -- maybe moreso than anyone else outside of Bruce.
He clearly and repeatedly says this is Timmy's team.
Tony wanting to be an AllStar means that he wants to elevate his game to AllStar level. I don't see how that's a bad thing.
I think TD deserves to be the MVP, but I'm very happy to see TP playing in that level now.
I don't understand why some Spurs fans don't like him
He'll get his 3rd ring in 6 season
The guy is great and will only get better
Sometimes people don't realize how much Tim, Tony and Manu are humble guys for their status.
I mean Manu can easily be a superstar in another team, same for Tony...But why the Spurs are a dynasty? because o these talented guys who care about winning first and not about their asses...
Spursfans are SPOILED!!!!! : they actually have the best PF of all time, one of the best PG if is not the "best" close with nash, the best 6th guy or one of the best SG, the best defender , the best coach..........bla bla bla and they're bitching about who must win the MVP, or "I wish one of the big 3 had a bad game..." It's just WOW WOW WOW
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TP is earning his MVP tonight imo
MVP Parker. it is solidifying
The only shot he missed in the 1H was a foul the refs missed.
MVP up to now.
Parker has come out, like a man that wants to have a river parade and then start popping bubbly for a wedding, dude is awesome right now.
Hopefully his teammates can actually help him right now :lol
Yep. And as for duncan.....Quote:
Originally Posted by smeagol
He's being a :loser
Tony Is The Crossover Kid! The Teardrop Specialist! Mr. Break Your Ankles!!!
I can think of about 4 Spurs that could win MVP. They're all great. Bowen deserves MAJOR accolades. I love Tony and if I had to make a choice I'd pick him for MVP. If his name was Tony Perez, the rest of SA would love him too. Sorry, but that's a fact. And it's pretty sad.
He's the blackest player on your team.