Varejao, or Devin Harris....
I personally am going with Harris. That little bastard ALWAYS seems to get those damn flopping calls against us. And it always seems to be right when we are making a run or something.
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Varejao, or Devin Harris....
I personally am going with Harris. That little bastard ALWAYS seems to get those damn flopping calls against us. And it always seems to be right when we are making a run or something.
Floppers don't really bother me.
What bothers me is that they get away with it. And that is on the refs.
If a child gets away with snagging a cookie from the jar when he's not supposed to, do you blame the child because he knows he'll get away with it? Or do you blame the parent for allowing it to happen?
Manu
but he doesn't flop as much anymore
I thought the obvious answer was...Manu?
Did anyone else consider Devin Harris has a growing BBall IQ, is coached by a point guard,is being coached by a product of Pops, and is one of the fastest players in the league.
manu on the other hand comes from a country that worships soccer.....
Manu has become a "flailer" more than a "flopper"Quote:
Originally Posted by nkdlunch
Varajao is rediculous, but as much as it pisses me off when the charge gets called, when it doesn't he takes himself out of virtually every play....and that's dangerous when Tim Duncan is looming around the basket, because you almost have to put two bodies on him to box him out.
Varejao is the worst kind of flopper. he actually flops into his own teamates affecting their shot and with possibility of injuring them.
Varejao by a mile. Harris looks like a stick figure. I have no trouble believing that at least half the time he's legitimately being knocked on his ass. Varejao acts like he's been shot no matter who hits him.
Raja Bell
That's some of the worst logic I've ever heard. Manu is one of the smartest, most savvy players in the league.Quote:
Originally Posted by mFFL03
varejao. i think it's in his hair....
I don't know. that Harris just freakin annoys the hell out of me. Varajeo does flop alot, but he also gets freakin hammered alot too. So he gets it back alot if the time. I just wish that someone would clothesline that little turd Harris one good solid time.
Didn't one of the commentators (JVG?) actually say that Varajao might get more calls because the refs see his hair going all over the place? It's not a bad theory....though having him laid out on the floor is a good way to sell it too.Quote:
Originally Posted by childsafetylock
yeah, i caught that comment on sunday's game i think it was. he made the comment about how varejao's hair is all over the place and can be obstructing to the refs and they can't always make the right judegement. they end up giving the foul to the opponent when varejao deserves it. then of course varejao ends up getting the chance to make the free throw.Quote:
Originally Posted by PHAT TONY
i think in every team, there's at least one flopper. some are just wild out crazy and some just happen to flop. but it get ridiculuous and even dangerous cos you can actually end up hurting your opponent(s) or worse, a teammate(s).
Varejao by far.
But on the other hand when he goes down he actually brooms the floor with his hair and there's no need for the floordryers to come in...
Varejao.
I don't think Harris is too bad....all NBA players flop a little, some are just more pronounced.
WTF is that supposed to mean??Quote:
Originally Posted by mFFL03
Varejao.
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Originally Posted by vanvannen
:rollin
I'm going with Varejao because at least Harris, Bell, etc. actually have some kind of other skill whereas Varejao doesn't. Varejao also is worse because he's bigger. When the Pistons and Cavs were playing, I told a friend that I hope the Cavs lose because Varejao against the Spurs would annoy the hell out of me. Unfortunately that prediction has come to fro'ition. :fro
I vote for the inventor of the flop...Laimbeer. God I hated that guy.
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Originally Posted by Spurminator
How many flopping calls has Varajeo actually gotten so far in this series? It hasn't been many has it? With Harris it just seems he always gets Parker with that BS charge call right when he is in the middle if driving to the basket. Plus like I said Varajeo does flop, but he often gets hammered big time too. That McDyess foul on him was vicious! :lol
I define a flop as acting with little or no contact. Making the officials blow the whistle by accentuating actual illegal contact is just good basketball to me. Devin Harris is the guy for whom I'm most embarassed watching him play. He and Nash have really stepped up the flopping this year and Devin has thrown the head snap and the petulant face to go with it.
The only two flops I've seen in the finals were Verejao's fall on the missed alley oop to Timmy and the JV flop that Mark Jackson pointed out. Both of those occurred with no contact and the defenders fell to the floor.
Devin Harris annoys the most.
Vlade Divac used to make me laugh the most.
Andrew Bogut. He jumps under and seldom has position. He does it to excess.
Derek Fisher back when he played for the Lakers.
Varejao had more regular-season flops (offensive fouls drawn) than Manu, Bowen, and Oberto combined. That, ladies and gentlemen (and Mouse), is a flopper.
Harris: Because when he does it, people don't call it flopping, they call it good defense.
A flop is not an offensive foul drawn. If he drew more offensive fouls than those three then he's a great defender.Quote:
Originally Posted by CubanMustGo
Harris was a good defender last year before he started flopping. His defense didn't improve when he started snapping his head upon contact.Quote:
Originally Posted by Testing
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Originally Posted by mFFL03
So when a Maverick player does it it's pure brilliance, and when a Spur does it it's flopping and just dumb?