Re: Splitter In, Scola Out?
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Originally Posted by FromWayDowntown
Two things:
1. It makes perfect sense to use late 1's on draft-and-stash candidates. Much more sense than using 2nd rounders for the same purpose. I think Mr. Body and ploto have made that abundantly clear; but I also think it's readily apparent to anyone who stops to think about the issue for even one moment.
2. I don't get the idea that the Spurs were going to draft a difference-making player at 28 or 33. You get lucky every so often and land a Parker, a Barbosa, a Howard, an Arenas, or a Boozer or something like that. But more frequently, at those spots you end up with an Udrih, a Dickau, a Kleiza; players like Wayne Simien, David Harrison, Ndudi Ebi, Frank Williams, Chris Jeffries, Brandon Armstrong, or Erick Barkley.
If the Spurs are truly going to get better in a meaningful way for 2007-08, their best bet to do so is through free agency. Given their cap commitments for next season, their best chance to improve through free agency is with a sign-and-trade. And now the Spurs have some pieces that they can include in such a deal without gutting their existing roster to get it done.
Besides Barry, Udrih and Butler what other pieces were you referencing? IMO the Spurs do not have a lot of assets (outside of the big three) that teams would find attractive.
Re: Splitter In, Scola Out?
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Originally Posted by Beno Udrih
What's interesting to me was during the telecast, ESPN said that he had a ridiculous buyout just like Scola. Hmm...
Yeah, but Splitter can opt out of his contract or his contract ends next summer, something like that. Thus making him avaliable to joing the club next off season
Re: Splitter In, Scola Out?
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Originally Posted by O-Factor
Yeah, but Splitter can opt out of his contract or his contract ends next summer, something like that. Thus making him avaliable to joing the club next off season
The Scola saga continues ....... :lol
Re: Splitter In, Scola Out?
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Originally Posted by Kori Ellis
So you wanted them to draft players who will dominate?
How would they do that unless they were in the top 5?
I'd rather be dominating the NBA, winning rings, and hope to get lucky with some of these foreign players who might become stars(like Parker and Gino), than have a team that is picking at the top of the draft year in and year out.
Re: Splitter In, Scola Out?
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Originally Posted by SenorSpur
Besides Barry, Udrih and Butler what other pieces were you referencing? IMO the Spurs do not have a lot of assets (outside of the big three) that teams would find attractive.
Scola and Splitter, to name two. Barry's contract is much more likely to be enticing now than it was last year or two years ago. Beno certainly is viewed in some quarters as having upside. Add in the rights to someone like Scola (who is now more readily-movable for the Spurs because of the plethora of foreign big men whose rights they possess), and you have the makings of a fairly realistic deal.
My point is that the Spurs weren't very likely to get a player who would make an immediate impact on this roster at 28. They acquired another asset and now can proceed into free agency looking for some more immediate fixes to the few minor problems they must correct. It doesn't even have to be a big score in free agency to offer some incremental improvement. In any event, it seems to me that they're far more likely to get immediate help that way than they were in the draft.
Re: Splitter In, Scola Out?
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Originally Posted by FromWayDowntown
Scola and Splitter, to name two. Barry's contract is much more likely to be enticing now than it was last year or two years ago. Beno certainly is viewed in some quarters as having upside. Add in the rights to someone like Scola (who is now more readily-movable for the Spurs because of the plethora of foreign big men whose rights they possess), and you have the makings of a fairly realistic deal.
My point is that the Spurs weren't very likely to get a player who would make an immediate impact on this roster at 28. They acquired another asset and now can proceed into free agency looking for some more immediate fixes to the few minor problems they must correct. It doesn't even have to be a big score in free agency to offer some incremental improvement. In any event, it seems to me that they're far more likely to get immediate help that way than they were in the draft.
Understand and agree. It will be interesting to see what "small-to-medium" sized fish the Spurs can land in free agency. Problem with most of the mid-career FAs (Wallace, Pietrus) is they are seeking the highest dollar - and I certainly don't blame them for that.
The point is they'll surely be out of our price range. I still hold out hope that perhaps James Posey can be had at a reasonable price.
Re: Splitter In, Scola Out?
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Originally Posted by koopa
no, the person above brought up the word dominate so that's why i said dominate, i want us to draft players that could help now, not 20 years from now, our window to win is only open till tim leaves, so we got to get players that can come in now, cause after tim is gone, we are back to just a playoff team that will never win...... this drafting and stashing is pretty pointless, and keeping the team we have now is not gonna get it done, beno and barry are as useless as it gets in the nba, horry is declining more and more ever year, sure he did good on defense this year but that will be gone soon too........ we got lucky we didn't have to face the mavs this year, now next year we won't be as lucky and we'll be older and slower............. there had to be one american that could help now, but rc and pop busted a nut when splitter dropped so they went with another guy that will rot overseas....... they should have went with tucker, except he goes to one of the teams that is a legit threat to our chances of repeating
What makes you think that Alando Tucker could even get into the rotation on this team in 2007-08?
Re: Splitter In, Scola Out?
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Originally Posted by koopa
what's the point of drafting and stashing??? so far it's only worked once and that was with manu, and none of these guys we draft and stash have the potential manu had....... drafting and stashing is fucking pointless
Technically...it hasn't failed yet either. I guess Karualov....
Re: Splitter In, Scola Out?
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Originally Posted by whottt
Technically...it hasn't failed yet either. I guess Karualov....
It's a half-full/half-empty dichotomy that will have this forum arguing for years.
It's just as easy to say that none of the post-Manu picks have panned out at all, since none of those players have ever made it into a Spurs uniform. In essense those were non-picks.
Really, no team has done better than the Spurs at being successful while 'not having draft picks'.
Re: Splitter In, Scola Out?
Any chance Tiago is playing on our Summer League team?
Re: Splitter In, Scola Out?
If the Spurs wanted a bigman, this was the best available.
Its just a shame he can't play this year. Dude looks like on youtube like hes got skills.
Will be interesting to watch him in the qualifying tournament playing for Brazil.
Re: Splitter In, Scola Out?
I think this may actually affect Oberto more than Scola. If there is truth to the rumors that it's possible for Splitter to get out of his contract early and join the Spurs next year, that gives the Spurs a fall back option in case Oberto's agent drives up the asking price to an unreasonable level.
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next year as in 07 -08???
REEEALLLYYY
Re: Splitter In, Scola Out?
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Originally Posted by T Park
If the Spurs wanted a bigman, this was the best available.
Its just a shame he can't play this year. Dude looks like on youtube like hes got skills.
Will be interesting to watch him in the qualifying tournament playing for Brazil.
If Tiago was able to come over this year, the Spurs wouldn't have been able to pull his name outta the hat at 28. I don't expect him to come over this year.
