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And your reading comprehension is that of a first grader. This is about Mark Cuban not being able to accept LOSING. Last year is was that the NBA Officials cheated and now it is because the coach he fired whipped his ass in the first round. Deal with it !!Quote:
Originally Posted by Findog
Fell down too many times in the shower after the games.Quote:
Originally Posted by T Park
Problem is, this is 10,000% consistent with everything else Cuban has ever done in his life.Quote:
Originally Posted by Findog
now this i actually agree with. Cuban just needs to move on and not worry about the loss. he is taking this way too far. despite 90% of Spur fans on here not knowing what is going on, (including me, i have no idea) this really is the answer. Cuban needs to just not worry about itQuote:
Originally Posted by Aggie Hoopsfan
Regardless of the reason for this. The wording is what is in question. He comes off as a crying baby. If this was such a big deal, why bring it up after the loss and not as soon as nellie was hired.
Even the dallas media(the ticket) is embarrassed for such a douche act.
Funny how worried little Mavs fan only wants to plug his ears and hum until all the critics go away.Quote:
Originally Posted by Findog
I don't have a problem with any of that, I was bitter for a while after the Finals, but ultimately I came to realize that the refs didn't cost us. I think the team realizes that as well. I don't think Avery allows them to indulge that mindset. But this is just jumping to conclusions based on an article by Eddie Sefko when apparently the only person he talked to was Nellie.Quote:
The Mavs will never win anything of substance (the Finals) as long as they are constantly playing the victim card instead of stepping up and taking responsibility for their actions.
It's why they lost to the Heat last year (crying about Wade drawing fouls) and then again this year (boo hoo, Nellie knows us).
Who did you listen to, the Musers? I only caught the first part of that segment as I was pulling into work. I enjoy the Ticket but they don't break news, the only thing I heard was conjecture about how Del Harris "must've been" the "mole" and how Cuban fired him...which is weird because if Cuban honestly feels like Harris was actively aiding the Warriors in that series, it's rather strange he continues to pay him.Quote:
You might have a point if Dallas radio wasn't talking about this in the morning on the drive to work, and were citing sources close to the Mavs. They weren't even talking about this article, they were talking about hearing from within the Mavs organization, and were also wondering about the impact this would have on Donnie Nelson and his relationship with Cuban.
I'm pretty curious about Donnie's feelings and role in all of this, but if he really had a problem with Cuban and what's going on with his dad, don't you think he would've left the team by now?
Yeah, according to Nellie. It's fine to put stock in it if you want, but the whole idea is so asinine and stupid. Hate on Cuban all you want, but the man is not dumb. If true, it makes the Mavs' franchise look terrible and dampens enthusiasm for coaches and players to come here.Quote:
So, yeah, I'm going to give it some credence, certainly more than Cuban's incessant whining that Nellie used trade secrets to beat the Mavs.
What criticism am I ignoring? That our perimeter d sucks? That we lost our composure and poise against Mia/GS?Quote:
Originally Posted by Aggie Hoopsfan
I'm just not going to run with this solely on the basis of Nellie talking on the phone to Eddie Sefko.
If what Eddie Sefko reports is true, he's a giant douche. All I'm defending here is due process.Quote:
Originally Posted by smeagol
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Originally Posted by Aggie Hoopsfan
agreed.
also the original article says that Nellie signed with GS only after Cuban had stopped paying him. no pay = no job.
I've alwasy thougth that stopping paychecks was the pussy version of ending someone's employment.
And as you ppinted out - it's not like Nelson signed with GS in April of this year....
Findog apparently has a man crush on Cuban, since he continues to give him credit for all the work the Nelsons did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aggie Hoopsfan
Due process has about as much to do with peoples' opinions as truth has to do with legal rulings. All you're defending here is the owner of your team, to whom you are unnaturally devoted.Quote:
Originally Posted by Findog
Cuban gets credit for paying the luxury tax and for signing off on transactions to bring in more talent. I never said he was a player personnel guru.Quote:
Originally Posted by Obstructed_View
Must be a tough position to be in. On the one hand, there's probably no better setup in the NBA (other than maybe the Portland gig now). Onthe other hand, it's got to be an emotional strain for him. Even if this particular story isn't what it appears, it's clear that Cuban and his dad hate each other.Quote:
Originally Posted by Findog
With all due respect, I don't see how that bears the slightest relation to what I've been posting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Obstructed_View
If it's true, I'll be dismayed. But one side in a legal dispute doesn't have a monopoly on the facts.
The fued between Big Nellie and Cubes is nothing new. Donnie has made his peace with it if he continues to work for the Mavs.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShoogarBear
Oh all you Spurs fans can fuck me especially hard up the anal tract with a ten foot poll. you guys make me so sick. you make me want to vomit, eat my vomit, and vomit again. two words, WESTERN CONFERENCE CHAMPIONS! how did it feel to get beat at home in game 7 last year? oh nevermind, you guys disappeared like cockroaches after that game. im not even worried about that greasy trash dunghole you call San Antonio, home to the world's only toilet museum. you'll want to sue me after we're done sweeping you guys next year in the playoffs. then i'll ride through San Antonio on my white stallion shitting all over your town, not even SAM HOUSTON WILL BE ABLE TO STOP ME!!!!! :devil
as far as this case goes, stay the fuck out of it. all you San Antonians know about the courtroom is that you arent allowed to bring in yer guns or burritos. what do they teach you guys in your school system anyway? oh yeah, RECESS! in fact, i might just make up my whole jury full of Mav fans, and i know they will back me against that assShard Don Nelson. he doesnt stand a fucking chance!
my son!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mav Troll
I think, on a side note, that I have just found the biggest whore in Professional sports.
His name is Donnie Nelson, aka Don Nelson Jr., who proceeds to work for this ass Cuban even though Cuban has taken every shot possible at his father. I can't imagine working for anyone treating my father this way. This isn't business anymore, these are personal attacks and personal vendettas being carried out behind lawyers. If Donnie Nelson doesn't walk into Cuban's office and resign then he's the biggest whore in sports. Money isn't worth selling out your family.
You mean like the luxury tax that he saved by cutting Michael Finley? Cuban gets credit for not bleeding the franchise like Perot did, but not much more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Findog
Uh, I bet the current situation is something he can't just "make peace with" one time and move on. He has to deal continually with escalating levels of acrimony, and, assuming he's still got a good relationship with Don, there's potentially a limit to what he can take.Quote:
Originally Posted by Findog
You're right, the man is not dumb. He is, however, a spoiled freakin' brat who pouts and holds his breathe in a lame attempt to get what he wants.Quote:
Yeah, according to Nellie. It's fine to put stock in it if you want, but the whole idea is so asinine and stupid. Hate on Cuban all you want, but the man is not dumb. If true, it makes the Mavs' franchise look terrible and dampens enthusiasm for coaches and players to come here
Last year he blames his team's meltdown on the league hooking up Wade and Miami, calls it all fixed, and threatens to sell the team.
This year, a month after his season ends, he pulls this crap and acts like his team only lost because Nellie was getting passed the game plans or something stupid like that. GS didn't need insider info. to beat the Mavs, they were in their heads (from the players to AJ to Cuban) before the series even started, and it was already over at that point.
Sadly, a lot of people up here in Dallas do. My cousin already had a meltdown over this today via email, and he idolizes Cuban.Quote:
Originally Posted by Obstructed_View
I just don't understand how Jerry Jones is criticized because people think he does all the things Mark Cuban is loved for actually doing.
you know that's next. what a f-ing tool.Quote:
Originally Posted by Warlord23
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Originally Posted by BeerIsGood!
Excellent point.
I'll be on the look out for a newsbite about Jr leaving the team.
blood should be thicker than $$.
I think when this is all said and done, we will discover that is was really all about $6.5 million dollars. As an attorney, I will add that so far all we have is a polemic from Nelson's side, which is not evidence.
In the final analysis, this would not be a smart move for Cuban, since established coaches would now be leery of taking the Dallas job. Also, it certainly doesn't look good to the outside world. That said, 6.5 million dollars buys a LOT of pride.