Just heard it on local radio. Hopefully I can get a link online.
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Just heard it on local radio. Hopefully I can get a link online.
is he serious?? shouldn't he be just grateful he was drafted in the first place??
This guy seems like a super-douche, he will quickly alienate US fans with his attitude if he keeps it up
Come to Dallas. 67 wins, playing next to an mvp, big market city, and SOUTH WEST DIVISION CHAMPS BABY!! :elephant :elephant
fuck this guy. i hope he ends up like eli manning
Did I hear correctly last night when they said that Milwaukee was prevented from watching him work out in LA? WTF is that?
Yea, his "people" wouldnt permit it.Quote:
Originally Posted by steppy
wherever he ends up, i hope they boo him hard
And the pussification of the U.S. continues.
Just play some basketball; guy must think US fans know him very well. Next thing we know he's gonna be another Wang Zizi.
I think it shows his immaturity. However, its not all his fault. I am sure the people around him are the ones who built him up making him think he was only worthy in playing in a big market city w/large Chinese population.
The Chinese government is powerful force.Quote:
Originally Posted by mardigan
What a dumbfuck you are.
bucks aren't probably expecting to keep him anyway. it was pretty clear that he didn't want to play there before the draft. either the bucks are fucking retarded, or they're planning on making some upcoming trades.
I have an idea! trade him out of the NBA! is that possible? :lmao that would be funny as hell
I have no say in who is allowed to post but this is way over the top and should be grounds for a ban. This crap should not be tolerated.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fillmoe
They could send him the D League.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaNuMaNiAc
I fucking hate attitudes like this. The most notable douchebag that I can think of that pulled this was Kobe. Who else has pulled this bullshit with success in the past?
golden state, here yi comes
players who pull this shit should be prevented from playing the nba, period. you should have no choice where you play when you come into the league, end of story.
Ship his fucking sorry ass back to China and tell him we don't need his bullshit.
What a piece of shit complaining about making millions of dollars and being a free country.
I'd tell this communist fuck to screw off.
If I were the NBA I'd take the attitude of, look, you were drafted, you should be gratefull. Don't like it? Get fucked.
Milwaukee though knew what they were getting into.
Not to mention the complete stupidity of drafting a guy you never watched in person or had only gotten a reccomendation from DADDY.
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Originally Posted by Vito Corleone
http://www.225.ca/ivan/nov03/crybaby.jpg
BOOO HOOO mothafucka
This shit piss me off way more than a Kobe type situation. Kobe has been in the league and somewhat has paid his dues. It's not necessarily right to demand a trade, but at least he has played for a while.
This cocksucker has barely set foot in the USA and thinks he runs this motherfucker.
...AND first round chokers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dirk Nowitzki
i hope he gets traded back to china where theres a huge chinese population..... than they could all watch him play in their shitty ass league
Scola his ass for a few years, then trade him. Nobody should ever reward these guys by giving them what they want. I know it's his kung-fu crew that's running things, but they should know better. Fuck'em.
Wow, what a bunch of idiots and playerhaters on this thread.
We see the racists and the children come out of the woodwork here. And I think "Commie" as an epithet is pathetic--as if he chose the political system of his country of birth. This power play is not communistic at all, but actually fully capitalist and free-market in nature. Of course that will fly over most of your heads.
Do you really think this 20 year old is calling the shots here? His agent made it very clear he wanted to play in a city with an Asian presence. And, the playerhaters don't like it, but extremely talented players can force a team's hand. I don't recall people talking sh_t about John Elway anymore. I may be wrong, but didn't Danny Ainge even do the same thing?
I suppose most of the racists and p'haters shouting him down, would gladly play in the miserable depths of the Midwest when it was within their power to force a trade to Boston or LA.
:lol at comparing him to ElwayQuote:
Originally Posted by michaelwcho
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Originally Posted by Vito Corleone
Totally agree with the above statement.
Sincerely,
charlie
fucking racist prick. ban this asshole. :rolleyesQuote:
Originally Posted by Fillmoe
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Originally Posted by michaelwcho
I would like to think that most of the posters are bitching about an 19 year old unproven commodity from the lower-echelon Chinese Basketball Association being fortunate enough to be a lottery pick in the top basketball league in the world, and then complaining that he was picked by Milwaukee.
Elway went #1 in his draft, not #6. And comparing these two situations is an act in futility. The schizophrenic Colts and their asshat of an owner moved to Indianapolis in the dead of night less than a year after Elway was drafted. The Bucks are a proud franchise with deep civic roots owned by a U.S. Senator.
Milwaukee was good enough for Lew Alcindor when he was the most celebrated draft choice of his era. It's damn good enough for this kid.
playerhaters?Quote:
what a bunch of idiots and playerhaters on this thread.
We see the racists and the children come out of the woodwork here. And I think "Commie" as an epithet is pathetic--as if he chose the political system of his country of birth. This power play is not communistic at all, but actually fully capitalist and free-market in nature. Of course that will fly over most of your heads.
Do you really think this 20 year old is calling the shots here? His agent made it very clear he wanted to play in a city with an Asian presence. And, the playerhaters don't like it, but extremely talented players can force a team's hand. I don't recall people talking sh_t about John Elway anymore. I may be wrong, but didn't Danny Ainge even do the same thing?
I suppose most of the racists and p'haters shouting him down, would gladly play in the miserable depths of the Midwest when it was within their power to force a trade to Boston or LA.
:lol What are you friggen 15?
It has nothing to do with "hating"
So get out of here with your reverse racism BS.
True. By the end of the summer Brandan Wright and a future pick or cash are going to Milwaukee for Yi.Quote:
Originally Posted by itzsoweezee
that would be stupid... because brandan wright is better than yi dingaling
I'm surprised the Atlanta coaching staff beat out the chinese ownership on their draft pick. The owners wanted yi jianlian. I am personally concerned if teams are going to be baught by groups outside of the US and demand their players be part of the team. I mean what else is going to be outsourced. Let players be picked on merit and not forced on a team no matter what their nationality is.
Jessica biel does things to me, i'm mesmerized.Quote:
Originally Posted by 50 cent
I wouldn't want to go to Milwaukee either.
Milwaukee's a nice cityQuote:
Originally Posted by JamStone
Kobe was drafted by the Hornets and immediately demanded a trade to a big market city.Quote:
Originally Posted by 50 cent
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Originally Posted by Fillmoe
Robert Traylor is better than Dirk Nowitzki.
Guys, stop blaming Yi. Yi is fine in Milwaukee and said hed play (obviously tho, he probly didn't know "Milwaukee" existed before this month.) Its Yi's reps/Chinese basketball that's making the big stink about Yi not going there. This isnt quite Kobe or Franchise 2.0
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So get out of here with your reverse racism BS
And what about you with your "communist fuck" BS?
Yi and his people made it clear that he didn't want to play in Milwaukee. I don't like it, just like I didn't like it when Francis and Manning and Drew pulled that shit, but it is what it is. Milwaukee saw this coming and clearly they still felt this was the best thing to do.
The only person this hurts is Yi.
Francis fucked up Vancouver. He is one reason why the team left from here. Had he played, they could have won more games.
All we needed was to trade for his lover Mobley.
Eric Lindros pulled the same shit back in the day, refusing to play for Quebec. Philly traded for him, about half dozen players, one of them being Peter Foresberg.
Bucks could have drafted Brewer. Brewer/Charlie combo would have been awesome. If not that, they could have traded one of them a better center.
The Bucks are probably going to get a large cash reward from the Chinese government to trade this dude. I think Stern will step in before that, though. Time will tell if this is a smart move.
I'm not sure why the government of China cares how many Chinese live in the local market, as the average person in China doesn't care about the difference between Milwaukee and St. Louis.
Meh, Vancouver fucked itself up.... They knew Francis didn't want to play there and they drafted him anyway. Then they traded him for dogshit when they had dogshit to begin with.
Hopefully Milwaukee has a better plan, but they certainly have better players to fall back on.
I'm all for teams calling the bluff of a cocky punk who gets picky about which NBA team pays him multimillions of dollars, but for the teams' sake it's good to have a plan.
who cares, why are all of yall worked up for:lol
Yea Vancouver was fucked up the day they put Stu in charge. He drafted some of the worst players possible.
Interesting to see what happens with Yi, or E. Let him be in China? trade for future firstround pick? get back an allstar?
Steve FrancisQuote:
Originally Posted by spurs_fan_in_exile
John Elway
Danny Ferry
eli manny
manning
[QUOTE]If they know Atlanta loves him so much, they could turn him around for a package including Josh Smith, or Josh Childress or of somesort.Quote:
I'm all for teams calling the bluff of a cocky punk who gets picky about which NBA team pays him multimillions of dollars, but for the teams' sake it's good to have a plan.
Who originally drafted him? LakersGround?Quote:
Originally Posted by ducks
manning
is that where you hang out :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by ShoogarBear
JD Drew in a way successfully did it. Rooting for him in the little time he was with the Cardinals, or what little time he played seeing as he was Paino Udrih's long lost american 2nd cousin.
I also watch the NBDL from time to time.Quote:
Originally Posted by ducks
Eric LindrosQuote:
Originally Posted by ShoogarBear
True.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vito Corleone
:lol
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Originally Posted by adam8065
Not if I had a powerful government from the biggest nation in the world prepared to do anything to allow me not to play there.
NorCal AND Fillmoe banned simultaneously?
:elephant:elephant:elephant
Way to go, Kori.
:clap :clap :toast
T Parker, I like the word "playerhater". It concisely describes the motives of those who attack out of pure jealousy and impotence. Few people on this board are in Milwaukee, and no Spur fan is adversely hurt by a player putting his chips on table and trying to win a hand. Thus this inchoate rage at his trying to get ahead can only be accounted for by jealousy.
Also, I sadly have much less hops than when I was 15, T Parker. Please explain to me how your invective against Communism can be squared with your contempt for Yi excercising his rights in the free market. I don't get it, but I'm sure you have strong logic behind your strong words.
As far as the reverse racism, I like French fries and wine and have no beef with Frogs such as yourself :)
It always puzzles me when fans take the side of fat, old, multi-billionaire Enron-ish owners than guys who must rely on their legs to make a living, guys who we love, and love to watch. If I were in the NBA, I would be great to my fans, a great team player, but if necessary, give the Chinese finger to the owners, Yi-style!
NorCal got banned, too?Quote:
Originally Posted by ShoogarBear
NorCal was banned for just one day by LJ yesterday.
Why is everyone surprised that a foreign born player is using American tactics to get what he wants?
A lot of people aren't getting it in this thread that it's not young Yi's decision to say he won't play in Milwaukee and wants traded. Prior to the draft the Chinese government already said which teams he was going to be allowed to play for. That's why "his people" didn't allow teams like Milwaukee to be present at the some of the workouts etc. And it's why some teams weren't targeting him - they weren't on the short list of cities. Milwaukee knew that this might happen and they drafted him anyway.
The comments here cussing him (the player) out and telling him to go back to China are obnoxious as hell. You guys act like this kid is dictating what's happening.
We may not be hurt, but its a pathetic showing from a guy who is recieving a priveledge, NOT A RIGHT, in playing in the NBA. To say ""Im not going to Milwaukee" is complete bullshit.Quote:
T Parker, I like the word "playerhater". It concisely describes the motives of those who attack out of pure jealousy and impotence. Few people on this board are in Milwaukee, and no Spur fan is adversely hurt by a player putting his chips on table and trying to win a hand. Thus this inchoate rage at his trying to get ahead can only be accounted for by jealousy.
Also, I sadly have much less hops than when I was 15, T Parker. Please explain to me how your invective against Communism can be squared with your contempt for Yi excercising his rights in the free market. I don't get it, but I'm sure you have strong logic behind your strong words.
As far as the reverse racism, I like French fries and wine and have no beef with Frogs such as yourself
It always puzzles me when fans take the side of fat, old, multi-billionaire Enron-ish owners than guys who must rely on their legs to make a living, guys who we love, and love to watch. If I were in the NBA, I would be great to my fans, a great team player, but if necessary, give the Chinese finger to the owners, Yi-style!
The NBA draft is not a free market. You get drafted, you should be LUCKY to be drafted. You act like getting drafted is some sort of GIVEN.
Also the thing about me not liking the french would be wrong, one of my favorite players is from the Spurs, another plays for the lakers. I have nothing against the french other than their stupidity when it comes to world relations.
And uh, the whole BS about enronish owners?
I see you have the typical "They are out to get us" mantra.
"Fight the man" :rolleyes
You said it yourself: Few people here are in Milwaukee, so there's no personal stake wrapped up in this, but we're all NBA fans and there' a question of fairness and following the rules. There's a reason there's a draft order, and there's a reason there's a draft. The players that make millions of dollars to play a kid's game only have a couple of requirements in order to do so, and for people to get annoyed when a player and his handlers decide that they alone are above the system and don't have to play by the rules, even before they've even proven anything, is hardly surprising.Quote:
Originally Posted by michaelwcho
The term "playerhater" is intellectually lazy and narrow-minded, and is intended to shout down opposing viewpoints much the same way as a cry of racism is. The fact that you lack the imagination to think of a reason for opposing viewpoints other than jealousy or impotence speaks more about you than of others.
You play for who picks you, or you sit at home for a year. I'd like to see him on the court, but fuck him if he's going to come in and grandstand. I understand that he's being handled, but he's the face of it, so he will bear the brunt of the backlash. Many people loathe a prima donna. China's going to fuck up and cost themselves dearly in the PR department if they aren't careful.
bravo Obstructed. Bravo.
"It's a surprise to me. ... I'm not really familiar with the city as well, but I'm happy to be playing with the team and happy to play in the NBA." - Yi
Good that he has that attitude.
Now he needs to tell his "peeps" to STFU.
At least Yi wore the Bucks cap for photos.
Not so simple when you are dealing with the Chinese government. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by T Park
But the endless attacking of him in this thread is crazy when it's not really his opinion.
The fact that he says all the right things when a microphone's in his face has little to do with what he actually thinks. You of all people should know that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kori Ellis
So you know what he actually thinks? Bravo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Obstructed_View
Um, only one of us is acting like they know what he actually thinks, and it ain't me. I'm not attacking him, I'm annoyed at the situation, and I'm withholding judgment for now. That's all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kori Ellis
You guys kill me. you do realize this guy is from comunist china. he is not speaking his mind. he is saying whatever his peeps tell him to.
he is like ivan drago...
that being said, I beleive its his peeps who do not want him to play in milwakee. he is a kid who is under controll of comunist goverment. do not blame the kid.
Why is anyone surprised? There are holdouts each year in every major sport aren't there?
Thanks for taking the time to express your point of view.Quote:
Originally Posted by Obstructed_View
It's not surprising that they are "annoyed" (ie call out racial epithets and tell him to go back to China), but it is petty. Especially when it's not backed up by anything other than a negative emoticon.
When you say fairness and following the rules, fair to who? The NBA does not exist in a vacuum, as you know, and most things that occur have reasons that are far from readily apparent. As far as I am concerned, fairness first stems from the sort of individual rights that the Founders called for... if you can show a higher good than that, fine.
It's true that "playerhater" can be intellectually lazy, but in looking at the object of my wrath, are you really going to say I am wrong. Against TPark and those guys who just got banned? What do you really think?
I would say that there is one other reason besides jealously, and that is allegiance to the idea of rules, of order. In other words, the rules say this, he seems to be circumventing the rules, so he's wrong. I understand that many people have a strong emotional attachment to rules themselves; but the true ethics lie beyond the rules, to the rights and human reasons for which the rules exist. Again, I yield to one who goes this deep, but blind allegiance to rules for rules sake is ridiculous.
I have noticed that most people take the owners' sides in any sort of contract holdout situation, perhaps because the player is "breaking the rules". But it isn't it tempting to think that these people are also merely jealous of the athlete as it is, and this colors, if not creates, their emotions? Again, it's important to realize that the owners made the rules. Yes, the same owners who manage to get the public to buy them stadiums and then make money off them, the same owners who pay virtually no taxes by virtue of corporate power. Realize that the owners, and the entire class of powerful corporations to whom they belong, actually wrote many of the laws under which they benefit! So be wary of blind allegiance the rules!
TPark, I see we are not really on the same level here. You see, I was making a joke that you WERE French, since your name is TPark. Get it now?Quote:
Originally Posted by T Park
Actually the French are quite good at international relations. They also happen to be one of the few countries that will stand up to the US when their interests and ours don't coincide. You do realize that each country has its own interests, and just because we want something, doesn't mean it's morally wrong for someone else to refuse? It's called Realpolitik (google it).
Because he is working in our great country, Yi actually DOES have a right to play in the NBA--that is, if someone will pay him. His extraordinary talent also gives him a bit of leverage. Maybe it will help him get to Boston or LA, maybe it will land him in Siberia. You also have a right to work and a right to demand more money from your employer. If you're a valuable enough worker, you will get it, too. You would deserve it too...wouldn't you? Or maybe we should take your boss' side, since he's probably a big corporation and thus deserves our support.
Dude, they have buffets in Milwaukee also.. WTF?
Everyone knows how the Chinese government tried to shut Yao up for speaking up about his Olympic teammates and threatening to not send any more players to the States. The Chinese government sucks, don't blame this all on Yi. Milwaukee sucks huge donkey nuts by the way for anyone who has not been not there. It's right next to Minnesota, both places suck actually.
I apologize, I've directed most of my anger at Yi, when it should be at the situation of the government, and I'm hopefull the NBA tells the government to shove it.
Actually the french are hypocritical thieves in their govt wise, but thats neither here nor there.Quote:
TPark, I see we are not really on the same level here. You see, I was making a joke that you WERE French, since your name is TPark. Get it now?
Actually the French are quite good at international relations. They also happen to be one of the few countries that will stand up to the US when their interests and ours don't coincide. You do realize that each country has its own interests, and just because we want something, doesn't mean it's morally wrong for someone else to refuse? It's called Realpolitik (google it).
Because he is working in our great country, Yi actually DOES have a right to play in the NBA--that is, if someone will pay him. His extraordinary talent also gives him a bit of leverage. Maybe it will help him get to Boston or LA, maybe it will land him in Siberia. You also have a right to work and a right to demand more money from your employer. If you're a valuable enough worker, you will get it, too. You would deserve it too...wouldn't you? Or maybe we should take your boss' side, since he's probably a big corporation and thus deserves our support.
I am not french, I am 100% american. Like I said, I have nothing against the french, just their wuss attitude.
Where your wrong is, he ISNT working in our country.
Hes working in China, and he applied to be drafted in the NBA.
he was lucky enough that the Bucks are stupid enough to draft him.
But just because hes drafted, doesnt give him the right, if he was dictating where to play, to say "Im not playing here"
Excuse me? You are who again?
No one, from JD Drew and John Elway, to Yi, to Albert Pujols, when they are drafted by a major league sports club say "I am not playing there"
You suck it up, you zip your lip, work hard, play well, and when your a free agent, you go where you want.
BTW, boycott Chinese products.
Almost impossible I know, but I try and do it as much as possible.
You guys do realize that if Yi speaks out the Chinese governments response would likely be to ask him if he has preference for which prison his family will spend the rest of their lives in....
Just kidding...they wouldn't ask him if he has a preference.
Very true.
I don't see what the big deal is, Milwaukee knew a LONG time ago he didn't wanna play in that city. They weren't even allowed into his private workouts. What did they expect?
I freakin' love Milwaukee. They basically gave China the bird by drafting someone that was coming to play for a team in a free country. They're BS doesn't apply over here. When another country comes into the U.S. and starts trying to make their own rules with respect to a business with the majority of its interests in America, I say piss off.
Well hey, at least he's not named after a duck's dork.
As long as it is China that is pushing for this...that is lame.
I'd say fuck China but they will own the world in about 40 years.
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Originally Posted by T Park
Not that easy!