He is a free man. NBA is a communist society. Fuck them all.Quote:
Originally Posted by T Park
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He is a free man. NBA is a communist society. Fuck them all.Quote:
Originally Posted by T Park
Yi looks like a nice enough person in that picture with Oden though. What's going on in that picture anyway?
exactlyQuote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
what is he, michael jordan?
Yeah, you were talking to the great wall, at least a big fat wall.Quote:
Originally Posted by michaelwcho
Now I finally realize why so many people got arguments with this fat prick on ST, man you lost any piece of my respect.
Come here to give answers and don't hide in your fast food eating, Tpork :oink (I know that you never replied to Aggie about the draft night dispute, so I don't expect any changes for this issue).
TPark STFU
Your political opinions stink. Could you please talk only about basketball.
His handlers forcing a trade would be the best thing for Milwaukee. Ji got lit up by the US Under 19 squad here in Dallas yesterday, he didn't even get a bucket until garbage time.
He looks weak and plays weak, anyone more athletic than him is going to own him in the NBA (which will be a lot of people).
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...7/05/yi.bucks/
Looks like the Bucks dont plan on moving him
Standing their ground
Bucks insist they won't give in to Yi's desire for trade
Posted: Thursday July 5, 2007 3:29PM; Updated: Thursday July 5, 2007 4:05PM
Yi Jianlian has had little to say about his NBA future since the Bucks drafted him No. 6.
Two years ago Bucks general manager Larry Harris got lucky in the NBA Draft when he landed the No. 1 pick despite having just a 6.3 percent chance after finishing with only the sixth-worst record.
This year he's getting his karmic payback.
Harris thought he was doing a great thing for his team last week when he selected Chinese prospect Yi Jianlian with the No. 6 pick in the draft.
Yi is a considered a potential NBA star. The 6-foot-11 forward can score, rebound, pass and play facing the basket. Some have compared him to Dirk Nowitzki.
Unfortunately for Harris, what should have been a happy occasion in Milwaukee has turned into a nightmare.
Yi apparently doesn't want to play in Brew Town. Or at least his handlers --including notoriously tough agent Dan Fegan - don't want him there. They want Yi in a big market, one with a large Asian population.
"[We] won't sit here and do nothing just because he was picked by Milwaukee," Zhao Gang, one of Yi's representatives, told the official China Daily newspaper Tuesday. "We are considering Yi's future at the Bucks and are looking at trade possibilities."
Harris has no plans to comply.
"We're not trading him," Harris told SI.com. "We like him and we think this is a great opportunity for him. He'll get a chance to play a lot of minutes right away for a good team. What more could [he] want?"
Harris hoped to make that case in person Thursday afternoon when he was to meet with Yi at the Las Vegas Summer League. Yi is scheduled to play with his Chinese national team, while the Bucks are also fielding a team there.
So far the Bucks haven't heard from Yi at all. They have tried to reach out to him, but his handlers have declined the invitation. Not even a personal letter from Bucks owner Herb Kohl -- who happens to be a U.S. senator -- has been enough to persuade Yi.
Attempts to reach Fegan have not been successful, but it's safe to say he isn't budging.
It has been widely reported that Golden State was at the top of Yi's list of potential trade partners. The Bay Area boasts a large Asian population, and the Warriors were said to have serious interest in the skilled big man. Golden State also has an attractive trade piece of its own in No. 8 pick Brandan Wright, a North Carolina freshman forward whom Milwaukee was said to be high on in the days leading up to the draft.
But Golden State has yet to call Milwaukee, according to a source, and it is unclear now whether the Warriors' interest in Yi was real or overhyped.
One telling indicator in the coming days will be if Golden State signs Wright to a contract. Once a player signs, he can't be traded for 60 days. That would seem to eliminate them from any deal.
Meanwhile, Harris is getting a lot of empathy from his colleagues. Not since Steve Francis forced his way out of Vancouver in 1999 has a high draft pick pulled such a stunt. Before that one might have to go back to Danny Ferry, who refused to play for the Clippers when they took him with the second pick in 1989.
"It just doesn't happen in our league very often," Magic president and former longtime GM Pat Williams said.
"I remember back in '92, Shaq didn't want to come here. From the time we won the lottery, his agent [Leonard Armato] made it clear he wanted to be in L.A. But we had to draft him. What else were we going to do?"
Fortunately for Williams, Shaq eventually came around. Of course, he didn't have much choice. The way the NBA system is set up, a player who gets drafted must sit out an entire year and not play professionally anywhere else before he can reenter the draft pool.
That's why Williams and most other NBA types believe Yi will probably be in a Bucks uniform next season. Or at least he'll be in some NBA team's uniform, depending on whether Milwaukee can get fair value back in a trade.
No matter how much Yi's handlers might want him in a bigger market -- and one with a larger Asian population -- they really don't have any leverage.
Some around the league, in fact, are applauding Harris for not being cowed by the demands of an agent, while acknowledging that he might have taken a bit of a risk.
"I thought it was pretty bold," said former Magic GM John Gabriel, now a scout with the Blazers. "They must have really, really liked him."
"They did the right thing," Williams added. "If he was really the guy they wanted, they should be applauded. They went with their gut and said, 'He's the guy and we'll teach him to like German food and bratwurst and 10-degree weather in January.' Yes, I would definitely respect them for what they did."
For Harris, of course, it's not about garnering the respect of his colleagues. It's about doing what he felt was best for his team. And though he probably wouldn't say it publicly, he no doubt feels it would be bad for the NBA to have a player refuse to play for a small market.
After all, what is the point of having a draft if players don't have to report to their new teams?
What if Greg Oden refused to play in Portland? Or Kevin Durant in Seattle?
"NBA marketing is not about [the size of the city]," Harris said. "It's a national sport. It's international. If you're a good player, that's the key. You will get [noticed]."
Harris no doubt has support in that thinking from David Stern and many if not all of his colleagues. Now he just has to convince Yi and his handlers.
I remember scouting Yi at the Hoops Summit back a few years ago in SA and honestly I don't think he's 19 so it's even worse. I would just trade him while his value is still high. He could really go either way and for a team like the Bucks I don't think they can absorb a negative outcome. They basically tanked a 1/4 of their season to go through all this? When it's time to reup in 4 years you know they would have to go through this all over again. Besides if you force him to stay you just raised the expectations he'll have to live up to or the local fans will go from a little bitter to all out angry not just at him but to Harris as well. There are just so many ways for this to get ugly even if he stays...
I wish Stern would just tell him to get his fucking ass to Milwaukee or kiss his dreams of playing in the NBA goodbye for good.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udKKufpvRvU
20 second mark, dirty
It doesn't affect the Spurs? To most people, San Antonio = Milwaukee. Small market town, small Chinese/Black/etc population, not a lot of endorsement opportunities, sleepy nightlife compared to NY/LA/Chicago/SF/etc., and so on. Once this Duncan/Parker/Ginobili era is over SA all of a sudden isn't the city players want to flock to, and I don't want one of our picks looking back and thinking, "wow it was easy for Yi to force his way out" and pull the same act. I really hope Milwaukee doesn't trade him, because Danny Ferry, Kobe Bryant, Steve Francis, and Baron Davis have all set a horrible precedent. At least the Hornets had the balls to stand up to Davis and tell him no, and he ended up signing a contract with them as a free agent. :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by michaelwcho
Then here's my simple solution. No Chinese citizens in the NBA anymore. I think it's great to have players from all over the world, but there's no fucking way I'm letting an enemy (or even a friendly) government come and destroy the competitive balance of this league.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kori Ellis
yeah USA is a democracy and a freedom country, go fuck yourself with your enemy/friendly shit as if the usa was a friendly country LMAO!Quote:
Originally Posted by baseline bum
And for the Yi basketball skills haters due to his first games, just watch oden and durant struggling in their first game.
Dude is going to play in Milwaukee or miss out on lots of opportunities to make cash and become an icon in the US. Simple as that, unless his "people" can negotiate a great trade for the Bucks. Yi is going to suck, no doubt about it.
Jackass Dan Fegan strikes again.Quote:
Yi apparently doesn't want to play in Brew Town. Or at least his handlers --including notoriously tough agent Dan Fegan - don't want him there. They want Yi in a big market, one with a large Asian population.
I back baseline. Tell China it's simple - either he deals with Milwaukee, or all Chinese players are out of the NBA. Who the fuck are they to tell an NBA team how to run its business?Quote:
Originally Posted by Admidave50
Second, I guess I qualify as a Ji skills hater, whatever that is. Your comparison doesn't hold water. Oden and Durant are playing against NBA players.
Ji got balled by a bunch of 18 and 19 year old kids, some of whom haven't even played their freshman year of college yet.
Talk bad about my nation all you want, but your ass is putting money into its economy as a fan of the NBA.Quote:
Originally Posted by Admidave50
Chen Haitao, owner of the Guangdong Tigers - Yi’s former team - said the 6-foot-11 power forward will "definitely not" sign with Milwaukee and could be headed back to the Chinese Basketball Association.
"If the Bucks insist, Yi will go back to the CBA," Chen told the Chinese-language Beijing News on Tuesday.
Yi was the sixth player picked in the NBA draft and had his first meeting earlier this month with Bucks general manager Larry Harris and coach Larry Krystkowiak. His agent, Dan Fegan, has pushed for a trade and wants Yi in a city with a large Asian influence - or at least a larger city.
It won’t be Milwaukee, and the main sticking point is not the lack of Chinese-Americans in the city, Chen said.
"And it’s not about Yi’s commercial interests," Chen said. "We want to find a team that is good for Yi’s development. That’s the root of the problem."
Chen was unclear why the Bucks were a poor team for his development, but said Milwaukee had too many tall players like Yi. He also said the 2008 Beijing Olympics were a factor.
"The national team and the Olympic Games are now a key factor in considerations," Chen said. "If Yi goes to a team where he can’t keep up his level of play, that wouldn’t be good for the national team."
The whole situation has left the Bucks bewildered."We have seen confusing reports on what was said," Bucks spokesman Dan Smyczek said Tuesday night. "We’re looking into getting more information to verify what was reported."
In a poll earlier this month by the Beijing-based China Daily newspaper, 68 percent of 9,000 respondents wanted Yi to join the Bucks.
Former China national team coach Qian Chenghai also supported playing with Milwaukee.
"We don’t want to see Yi destroy his reputation in the NBA and return to the Chinese Basketball Association," Qian said last week. "That’s horrible."
Chinese fans urge Yi to play for Bucks
BEIJING–Chinese fans are urging Yi Jianlian to sign with the Milwaukee Bucks.
Drafted two weeks ago by the Bucks, Yi has declined to talk about his prospect of signing with Milwaukee. His agent, Dan Fegan, has pushed for a trade and wants Yi in a city with a large Asian influence.
"Fegan will hamper Yi's future," former national team coach Qian Chenghai was quoted as saying in yesterday's state-run China Daily newspaper. "I don't think Yi refused to join the Bucks; it is Fegan who doesn't want him to join.
"We don't want to see Yi destroy his reputation in the NBA and return to the Chinese Basketball Association. That's horrible."
Results of an online poll published in the China Daily showed 68 per cent of 9,000 respondents want the 7-foot centre to play for the Bucks.
"Yi, stand up and speak for yourself," the China Daily said, citing an article in the Beijing Evening Post. "Don't hesitate any more and don't let anybody control your life."
Yi, the sixth player picked overall in the draft, had his first meeting last week with Bucks general manager Larry Harris and coach Larry Krystkowiak. He is playing in the NBA's Summer League in Las Vegas.
Fuck him. Send him back to China for good.
I really hope the Bucks stand firm and don'to comply with the trade request.