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Re: Should Spurs try to buy Tau???
The point is that it doesn't have to be Tau. It could be any decent Euroleague team. Tau would likely cost a fair amount judging by their success, but a less successful team could likely be had for less money.
I really like this idea though. The EuroSpurs team would operate like any other Euroleague team but simply have a strong affiliation with the Spurs. If the Spurs drafted a Euro player (the Sanikidze and Karalov types) they would have them sign a contract with the EuroSpurs to develop overseas. Heck, even an NCAA standout that wasn't quite ready for the NBA could be drafted and stashed over there while he continued to grow. It would be a reciprocal relationship though. While EuroSpurs would send away their more developed prospects to the Spurs they would also receive new potential-laden players every year from the Spurs' draft. The EuroSpurs would not have to sacrifice their winning mentality, they would simply operate as more of a NBA prep team for the select players that they were sent. They could still pursue valuable free agents whose rights the Spurs did not own and develop them for the sake of EuroSpurs' future.
It'd be a great idea. I just wonder how the NBA would treat it.
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Re: Should Spurs try to buy Tau???
Yeah overall it seems like a great idea. If it would profit us a solid player every 5 years why not? Imagine getting a Manu or Parker out of it.
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Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
There is no way the Spurs would own their own european team just to have a place to stash a player or two every year...they operate much differently and there are way too many conflicts. NBA drafts 19+ and the euro leagues scout and scoop world talent at almost pre-teen levels to groom them...that why teams like Tau lock these kids into such long contracts with big buyouts...they want a return on their investment of time and resourses with these very young kids.
Well,right now they could stash 3 Euros at least,but they can make a kind of Eurpean scouting base in Tau,or whatever team they buy,in order to develope them better,with a coach like Pop,so they can get use to the system while they wait overthere.
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I think people are underestimating the actual value of a team like Tau. I don't think the Spurs can afford anywhere near what it would take to buy a top euro team.
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Ok, so maybe they can't afford to buy a team like Tau,
but couldn't they buy INTO the team, becoming a major investor???????????
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Logic just doesn't seem to work in here. There are NO tactical advantages for the Spurs to buy a euroleague team.
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Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
Logic just doesn't seem to work in here. There are NO tactical advantages for the Spurs to buy a euroleague team.
I think there would be advantages, but i dont think it's financially possible.
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Originally Posted by __JaG__
I think there would be advantages, but i dont think it's financially possible.
Oh, it's financially possible, just not financially smart. They are much better off leveraging their one sided deal on the ATT Center and their two fisted nut hold on the City/County into other sports/entertainment investment opportunities at home. Too many conflict of interest issues in trying to own a Euro basketball team.
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Just for the hell of it, what have been the last sale prices for Euroleague teams?
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Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
Oh, it's financially possible, just not financially smart. They are much better off leveraging their one sided deal on the ATT Center and their two fisted nut hold on the City/County into other sports/entertainment investment opportunities at home. Too many conflict of interest issues in trying to own a Euro basketball team.
If you can pull up some numbers for me i'll concede. But i think Euroleague teams cost a little more than you think.
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If you can pull up some numbers for me i'll concede. But i think Euroleague teams cost a little more than you think.
:lmao
Do your own homework :lol
Spurs have the lock on large venue sports and entertainment in South Texas. This is one of the fastest growing areas in the US. Spurs ownership group are a "who's who" of economic and political power in the city/county.
San Antonio is still a one sport town but looking out 20 years that can and will change. Every year the Alamodone fiasco sinks further into the past. When baseball or football comes to South Texas you can count on the Spurs ownership group being right in the middle of the mix. Thats their strength and their focus and thats where their long term investment plans are.
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Re: Should Spurs try to buy Tau???
doesn't parker own a euro league team? If we have players that can own a euro league team then why not Peter Holt? BTW is Duncan richer than Holt? I'm pretty sure Shaq Garnett and Jordan are.
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Originally Posted by Vito Corleone
doesn't parker own a euro league team? If we have players that can own a euro league team then why not Peter Holt? BTW is Duncan richer than Holt? I'm pretty sure Shaq Garnett and Jordan are.
:lmao
You forgot Kobe...he owns a euroleague team too.
WHY would the Spurs want one, though? It makes absolutely no sense.
Stern would shut it down in a heartbeat.
And personally I think Holts massively underrepresented in that list. 80 million doesn't cover his ownership interest in the Spurs, much less Caterpillar.
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what teams? names please! Parker owns a Euro league team?? since when?
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what teams? names please! Parker owns a Euro league team?? since when?
fuck, google it yourself. Parkers is in France, Kobe's is in Italy.
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The team that Parker owns is like a minor league euroleague team...it's not a top level team in Europe.
There are probably some 2nd tier Euroleague teams the Spurs could afford, but I don't think they could afford Tau. It might be an interesting idea for them to buy a team that has yet to move up to first tier status and then manage it into becoming a top level team in Europe.
But due to the different rules about signing players...the league would snuff this idea instantly...Stern hell..it'd be the other owners that went crazy over this idea. Some of them can't even manage the one basketball team they own. And the biggest opponent would be the Euroleague instelf...I don't think they want to sell themselves to the NBA. Stern might actually be in favor of the idea if left to his own devices...NBA owners buying Euroleague teams would increase the NBA's ability to influence the growth of Euroleague basketball and keep it from catching the NBA....it'd be a way to ensure that the Euroleagues stay a minor league in relation to the NBA.
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fuck, google it yourself. Parkers is in France, Kobe's is in Italy.
you're the one claiming they own teams. I've googled it already, found nothing. Anyone find any info on this?
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Originally Posted by whottt
The team that Parker owns is like a minor league euroleague team...it's not a top level team in Europe.
There are probably some 2nd tier Euroleague teams the Spurs could afford, but I don't think they could afford Tau. It might be an interesting idea for them to buy a team that has yet to move up to first tier status and then manage it into becoming a top level team in Europe.
But due to the different rules about signing players...the league would snuff this idea instantly...Stern hell..it'd be the other owners that went crazy over this idea. Some of them can't even manage the one basketball team they own. And the biggest opponent would be the Euroleague instelf...I don't think they want to sell themselves to the NBA. Stern might actually be in favor of the idea if left to his own devices...NBA owners buying Euroleague teams would increase the NBA's ability to influence the growth of Euroleague basketball and keep it from catching the NBA....it'd be a way to ensure that the Euroleagues stay a minor league in relation to the NBA.
Thought so
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Parker owns Paris Basket Racing....the team he was playing for when he was drafted by the Spurs. I think that's the name. I don't know what team Kobe owns...but he does own a team in Italy. It might be the team D'antoni played for...I'm not sure.
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Current basketball players, maybe/maybe not, but since you brought up Jordan... take these articles for what their worth, but...
Magic Johnson's net worth is nearly $900M.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005059/bio
Michael Jordan's estimated net worth in 2001 was $398M.
http://espn.go.com/nba/s/2001/0923/1254601.html
LeBron James' estimated net worth is nearly $300M.
http://www.hbcunetwork.com/modules/N...erceptions.cfm
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Re: Should Spurs try to buy Tau???
And for everybody saying the Spurs couldn't afford it (again, you're probably right and it'd never happen)...
What have been the sale prices for Euroleague teams recently?
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Found the name of the team the Kobe owns, its called Olimpia Milano. Its the team his father played for
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Kobe's team is a higher tiered team than Parker's I think...he bought it a while back, before 2002...and I think both the Euroleague and the Euro have made huge gains against the NBA and Dollar since then. So it's probably been a good investment....and it might actually be a top tier Euro team.
I think Sabonis and Divac both own teams in Europe as well...
You know...the team Javtokas played for won it's way to the Euroleague...I think the Spurs could have afforded that one easily a few years ago. It just depends on the team really...but Tau is one of the best teams with the richest histories...it wouldn't surprise me if it has a dollar value close to some American Sports Franchises.
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Parker's lower-tier team was purchased for roughly $250K.
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Originally Posted by Johnny_Blaze_47
And for everybody saying the Spurs couldn't afford it (again, you're probably right and it'd never happen)...
What have been the sale prices for Euroleague teams recently?
I don't know...but I know the Euro has been kicking the shit out of the dollar for a few years now...so they are going to have a higher dollar per value cost than buying an NBDL team.