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Horry had a great series against the Nuggets, then did absolutely nothing the rest of the playoffs except a nice Game 2 of the Finals. Did he make a contribution in the Phx or Utah series that I missed?Quote:
Originally Posted by T Park
And no, don't say the hip check, cos it's not like he predicted Amare would get himself suspended.
Hill would be cool, no complaints if signed but we we end up with Finley starting and Manu and White off the bench, I'd have no problem.
Quote: "and the Bulls appear intent on trying to keep him. "
I don't get this at all. The Bulls already have Thomas and Noah at the 4, Deng will play major minutes at the 3, plus Thabo Sefolosha is there as well. How do they plan on justifying giving Nocioni a big contract when there is practically no room on the roster at the 3 or the 4 to give him big minutes?
considering that there's no way they will replace bowen this season, and they will need a new old timer to rally around now that Finley is old news, Hill might actually be a decent option. It's next offseason that they're looking to reshape the team. Considering he's one of the only players in the NBA who actually has a decent mid range game and can slash to the basket... I'd be curious to see how that might work out in our system.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aggie Hoopsfan
I can't believe the FO doesn't want to make the team better. I mean JV, Bonner, it's all good you know but if you've got the opportunity to sign scola and other players who are clearly better than why wouldn't they?
I like Hill only if Barry is gone
Finley, Hill and Barry are too much
No to Grant Hill. He is always injured and his best days way past. The spurs need to get younger.
The spurs need to start to address the age of the team and target some young players that have some upside.
Except, if they go after Noccioni, it will be a S&T with existing contracts, plus other considerations like maybe the rights to Scola, not costing them an additional DIME in cap room.Quote:
Originally Posted by T Park
If Hill wants easy practices and a run & gun offense, he should sign with the Suns. Besides, I don't know that he can stay healthy enough to endure a long post-season and an even longer regular season.
I'd rather see the Spurs opt for another swingman like Posey or Pietrus.
Yeah, we should have not re-signed him, then we could watch him suit up for Dallas against us in the playoffs.Quote:
Originally Posted by phyzik
How cute, TPark has one of those Jumping to Conclusions mats from Office Space.Quote:
Originally Posted by T Park
Per Marc Stein....
Phoenix and San Antonio are offering only the veteran minimum salary for next season to Grant Hill: $1.2 million, with nearly $450,000 of that amount paid by the league office from a fund for veterans.
Detroit, Toronto and Orlando will be offering the 35-year-old much more.
Yet one source insisted early Sunday that he's already convinced that the injury-tortured Hill, having just completed a $93 million deal with Magic, is "going to Phoenix for sure."
That would be welcome news in the desert, since the Suns are desperate for savvy veterans to improve the team's overall IQ and since Hill is the only free agent Phoenix is looking to add to its hefty payroll.
The early indications, though, suggest Hill does want to consider all his options and won't rush into a commitment.
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Originally Posted by Spurs Brazil
Honestly, though, I would still prefer Barry and Finley out of the three. But if one of the two were to leave, Hill would be a welcome replacement.
Buddy Holly, stick to San Antonio real estate. This team doesn't need an old swing man.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buddy Holly
They're playing poker. The Bulls have a good front office, they're not going to come out and say 'we don't care about Nocioni, go ahead and make an offer to him'. He's a tradeable commodity, and they know this, and will talk trade for the right price.Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronstampler
If we are going to fill out our 15th roster slot with a swing man, it needs to be Marcus Williams (unless we go after Nocioni).Quote:
Originally Posted by toosmallshoes
Set aside Noc for a minute, let's talk about Williams. You don't reshape a team by putting a bunch of new guys on it, because it takes a while to get the Spurs system. They need to bring in someone to learn the Spurs system while not being relied on to win games, and he can also learn the veteran tricks of the trade from Bowen, Horry, and Finley.
You've got to build your team when you're still good so you're not starting with a clean slate (like the Spurs would if they waited until 2008 to do it).
Grant Hill doesn't give the Spurs anything new. He has the same skill set as Finley, Manu, and Barry. This team still needs to address the need of getting someone who can at least slow down Dirk in the post-season.
The Spurs are playing with fool's gold right now, thinking they don't have any needs to address to repeat, when the fact of the matter is they still need to address some needs to be ready for a showdown with Dallas in the playoffs next year (unless they know something we don't and Dallas will stuck playing GS for the foreseeable future).
The Spurs have a 3-4 year window with the core of Tim, Tony, and Manu to win more rings during the TD era. They'll be pissing one of them away next year if they stay put.
I just think it's funny that Hill's personal shooting coach is Chip Englland. I guess everyone fails now and then. Hill is truly abyssmal from beyond the arc.
looks like it's going to be a dissapointing off season if you ask me
I'd be pretty confident that Hill will want to come to SA as his first choice if the Spurs want him. It makes much more sense than any other place. The Spurs are full of veterans. Pop doesn't play his players very much during the season unlike Phoenix who wants to play their starters every minute during the regular season. His shooting coach Chip is on our staff. Everyone who says Hill said he would prefer Phoenix in that radio segment didn't listen. Hill said he would want to go to San Antonio or Phoenix and then told Dan Patrick he couldn't make a decision like 3 different times when Patrick was trying to force him to. He just said "I don't know Phoenix," b/c Patrick wouldn't leave him alone.
Hill is better than Bary so if Spurs can get him great. If not I hope he stays with Orlando or goes to the Pistons. The Suns having one less decent rotation player is a good thing. They won't be filling out their thin roster with anyone that won't come at vet minimum.
Well, yes, in the sense that the Spurs are not associated with the cream of the free agent crop perenially because we are winners. If winning could have a downside, this would be it.Quote:
Originally Posted by naico
There is room for improvement among the smaller pieces that surround the big 3, but the FO may be content with our current roster coming off a championship season. This becomes a bigger issue, however, if the Spurs' main rivals improve themselves. Despite the Spurs walking through the playoffs last year, the margin for error in the Western Conference is still very thin.
Hence, minor yearly changes to the roster are sometimes necessary to extend dominance. Waiting to clear out cap room and then pursuing a big name is a risky strategy. Somehow, despite a recent history of winning, and Tim Duncan :worthy: still in his prime, the Spurs have been unable to attract another star to small-market San Antonio.
Nonetheless, next off-season should be highly entertaining. :toast
:lol:rollinQuote:
Originally Posted by naico
ONLY Spurfan could call this a disappointing offseason. Go get your picture taken with the trophies, or something.
Amen to that bro.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spurs Brazil
"Dab of white chocolate" has got to go.
Uh against Utah he played great defense and rebounded quite well.Quote:
then did absolutely nothing the rest of the playoffs except a nice Game 2 of the Finals. Did he make a contribution in the Phx or Utah series that I missed?
And no, don't say the hip check, cos it's not like he predicted Amare would get himself suspended.
He also rebounded and defended well in game 1, 2, 3 of the Finals.
But heaven forbid anyone outside of Ginobili get praise. Fuck.
Doesn't sound to me, like they are going after ANYONE.Quote:
Except, if they go after Noccioni, it will be a S&T with existing contracts, plus other considerations like maybe the rights to Scola, not costing them an additional DIME in cap room.
No to HILL.
For the first time, I am in agreement with the Spurs to sticking to their guns.
This crew got us here and there is nothing wrong with them.
If Hill comes, that will only set back James White.
I've seen White play numerous times before the Spurs signed him, and I have seen him grow a lot. The dude finally get's it and he is ready to bring it.
The Spurs are not going to be spending big time cash, so Pietrus, Nocioni, and any other player that will take up more than half of the MLE is out of the question.
Only way the Spurs do it is if they can trade away any combination of Barry, Beno, Elson, Bonner, and the rights to Scola.
But, even that is unlikely.
So, people need to get use to that when RC says this team is staying intact and going to defend the title.....that is propbably what is going to happen.
THE DRIVE FOR FIVE!
GO SPURS GO!
Because, every roster and off-season move the Spurs have done since Pop got here has been leaked to the press before it happened :tuQuote:
Originally Posted by T Park
Good call, Tpark.