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Uh, vet mil is like $1.4. When you factor in a standard raise, you're definitely within shouting distance of $1.7.Quote:
Originally Posted by cecil collins
It's unrealistic to expect better than Vaughn. He had some poor moments, but he also stepped up and hit some key shots and made some key decisions. I'd rather have someone who's proved he can sometimes make the right play under pressure than someone with "upside".
reading the article, it really brigngs up the mystery of the draft and talent. I wonder if he would have been a better player if he got PT on his first few years, instead of going to an elite team. what causes someone who was so dominant and good fall so much when he hits the NBA?
Bring back Vaughn for around the vet min and a two year deal with a team option in yr 2.
Then throw a little extra at the Bulls during the Nocion S&T talks to also grab Duhon.
The Spurs need Vaughn to come back. If he gets complacent and stinks then just trade him.
The weird thing is that despite the general consensus of this board being that Vaughn sucks and Claxton is near a deity, Vaughn basically did what everybody loved of Speedy. Hustled - played defense - hit open 15 footers when nobody was in the same zip code as him. And - a big difference - Vaughn did it over the entire season instead of half.
That said...I would love to upgrade the back-up PG and drop Vaughn back to 3rd string.
But if he can be had for near the minimum again, I think he should come back either way. And we can do (and have done) a lot worse than him as the primary back-up as well.
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Originally Posted by K-State Spur
That's because Speedy Claxton is the most over-rated player in Spurs history...and you are right...Vaughn basically did the same thing Speedy did...only Vaughn did them more often.
WAYDOWNTOWN hit a 3 pointer with time running out. We don't need a competion for #2 and #3 point guard[whoever that will be]. Vaughn is solid and he probably one of the only players I remember who could come in and master the system at point in his first year. We don't need a trainee next season.
JV suck but no other good alternative at veteran minimum. SPURS doesn't want to pay more than veteran minimum unless Beno can be traded. So let's pray JV accepts minimum again.
Those JV haters on this site might like this:
Clippers looking for point guard help
Monday, Jul 2, 2007 12:52 pm EDT
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The Los Angeles Clippers probably will not land a significant player unless they make a trade. They only have the $5.5 midlevel exception to sign a player, and it does not appear there is a key free-agent point guard they can get for that.
Among the free-agent point guards the Clippers could try to land are Steve Blake (Denver Nuggets), Chucky Atkins (Memphis Grizzlies) or Jacque Vaughn (San Antonio Spurs). They also have not closed the door on Jason Hart, who filled in well after the loss of Shaun Livingston to multiple knee injuries.
Source: L.A. Daily News
Related: Jason Hart, Steve Blake, Chucky Atkins, Jacque Vaughn, Denver Nuggets, Memphis Grizzlies, San Antonio Spurs
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For comparison, Claxton in 2003:Quote:
Originally Posted by GhostofAlfrederickHughes
326 min, 46-105 FG, 0-0 3ptFG, 33-44 FT, 45 assists, 24 turnovers
(NVE was 9-9 FT, JV was 3-6 FT)
Maybe not enough to be a deity, but certainly better than Vaughn offensively. I agree Vaughn is better defensively, so with his stats, he ended up being adequate at backup PG. We can always wish for more, but JV should be good enough for next season.
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Originally Posted by spurster
Fixed...Speedy really only made an impact in one game. And in fact he helped not at all at other times, which was why Kerr got minutes.
From a couple of weeks ago. http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71212
Vaughn was one of the reasons Pop was able to use a 10-man rotation in the playoffs. Jacque had the best Assist/TO ratio on the team in the playoffs.