Grant Hill to make decision end of the week

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Originally Posted by T Park

yup, time to start turning down free agents

cause

Beno > Grant Hill

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yup, time to pull a stupid post out of your ass and pine for an old, broken down SF to play backup PG and get used by Terry, Harris, etc.

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Originally Posted by T Park

yup, time to start turning down free agents

cause

Beno > Grant Hill

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2000 called. They want their Grant Hill admiration society card back.

Hill will not come to the Spurs..........He wanted Duncan in Orlando with him and TD said no.....expect the same from Hill.

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Originally Posted by lebomb

Hill will not come to the Spurs..........He wanted Duncan in Orlando with him and TD said no.....expect the same from Hill.

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Bullshit. If Hill asked TD what he thought, TD would probably say the same thing he told Finley, "love to have you, but we don't need ya."

However, he might add this time, "...and don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out -- hate for you to start out on the IR."

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:lol

When did Beno Udrih become better than Grant Hill.

Unreal :lol

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Originally Posted by Testing

I don't understand how he fits into the Suns system? Having him in the game with be similiar to the problem the Suns had with Thomas in defending Duncan....he slows the game down, allows the other team to set up their half court defense and we all know Suns have difficulty scoring if they aren't getting easy transition buckets.

Do they really expect Hill to be able to run up and down the floor with them? Not only that, but he's not really a 3 point threat so he doesn't fit in with their perimeter game either.

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Remember this is a Suns organization that thought enough to bring in Jalen Rose - thinking HE would push them over the top.

Phoenix's version of Three Card Monte.

"Hey, we signed this player that you heard of ten years ago, so please forget about our latest meltdown!!!"

Uh oh....Grant Hill could be that lockdown defender the Suns desperately need.

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Originally Posted by exstatic

Phoenix's version of Three Card Monte.

"Hey, we signed this player that you heard of ten years ago, so please forget about our latest meltdown!!!"

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No kidding. Since 2004, Phoenix has pulled off one or more moves to sign "quality vets" every offseason to get them over the hump, with mixed results.

2004-05: Steve Nash, Jim Jackson
2005-06: Tim Thomas, Eddie House, Kurt Thomas
2006-07: Jalen Rose, Marcus Banks, Eric Piatkowski

Jackson played well his first year, was disastrous in his second. Tim Thomas and House got one season and were out. Rose, Banks and Piatkowski hardly got off the pine this year.

Obviously getting Nash turned the team around and gave D'Antoni a lot of undeserved credit. Kurt Thomas has been adequate, but D'Antoni has shown an unwillingness to use him enough.

Bottomline, they may get another set of vets to sign on, but D'Antoni's clueless coaching will ensure that they don't make too much impact on Phoenix's playoff success. As long as D'Antoni coaches that team, no amount of offseason player shuffling will hide Phoenix's glaring weaknesses: poor defense, lack of rebounding, underutilized bench, key players tiring themselves over a long season, etc.

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Originally Posted by samikeyp

Uh oh....Grant Hill could be that lockdown defender the Suns desperately need.

:lol

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Or, if managed right, the backup facilitator they have lacked since JJ bolted...

I don't buy into this notion of him starting. He shouldn't be. He should be a bench player, both maximizing his minutes vs. other team's second strings, and his touches. Play with Nashat times, sure, but he needn't play more than 25 minutes a game, and even that's pushing it.

He's a nice bench signing, and hopefully with Tucker they added one more quality wing defender. If Hill signs for the vets min, then the Suns can go after Ely or PJ Brown with part of their MLE, or, if Darko's would accept a contract starting in the 6 million range, Darko with their 3 million trade exception and the 2008 Atlanta pick.

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Originally Posted by timvp

Hill was far and away the Magic's worst plus/minus player last year. At this point he's a faint shadow of his former self, so I can't even say he'll do a team more good than harm next season.

I'd be more excited if the Spurs coaxed Michael Jordan out of retirement than if they sign Grant Hill.

Magic's plus/minus:
http://www.nba.com/statistics/lenovo...t=9&team=Magic

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Look who happens to be #1 in the league in +/- ...

http://www.nba.com/statistics/lenovo...&split=9&team=

It's not even close. Tim's +/- for the season is roughly 20% better than the #2 guy (Nowitzki).

For those that mostly only see spurs games here is a clip of what grant hill would bring to the spurs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dhd5SWS8u4Y

Every time I have gone to a Magic game Grant Hill has been hurt. I hate that I never got to see him play in person before he got hurt.

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Originally Posted by Warlord23

No kidding. Since 2004, Phoenix has pulled off one or more moves to sign "quality vets" every offseason to get them over the hump, with mixed results.

2004-05: Steve Nash, Jim Jackson
2005-06: Tim Thomas, Eddie House, Kurt Thomas
2006-07: Jalen Rose, Marcus Banks, Eric Piatkowski

Jackson played well his first year, was disastrous in his second. Tim Thomas and House got one season and were out. Rose, Banks and Piatkowski hardly got off the pine this year.

Obviously getting Nash turned the team around and gave D'Antoni a lot of undeserved credit. Kurt Thomas has been adequate, but D'Antoni has shown an unwillingness to use him enough.

Bottomline, they may get another set of vets to sign on, but D'Antoni's clueless coaching will ensure that they don't make too much impact on Phoenix's playoff success. As long as D'Antoni coaches that team, no amount of offseason player shuffling will hide Phoenix's glaring weaknesses: poor defense, lack of rebounding, underutilized bench, key players tiring themselves over a long season, etc.

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Give me a break. The Suns and Spurs were clearly the top two teams in the league last year, and were evenly matched -- even though (and I agree with this much) Rose, Pike and Banks were complete busts. I don't know how Hill will work out, but it's not going to make or break the Suns either way.