Ole newspaper published today.
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Ole newspaper published today.
his loss.
it seems pop and Buford think that Bonner and Butler is better than he is... our last chance to have an exiting new player next season... Nocioni...
http://www.ole.com.ar/notas/2007/07/04/01450435.html
Scola no va a SA
San Antonio acordó con Jacque Vaughn por dos años y con Fabricio Oberto por tres, según anunció el diario Express-News. También negocia con Matt Bonner, ya sin lugar para Luis Scola. Sólo queda que los Spurs canjeen los derechos a otro equipo, pero el ala pivote está cada día más cerca de seguir en el Tau Cerámica.
John Paxson, general manager de los Bulls, salió al cruce de algunas versiones que daban como casi seguro un cambio de Nocioni a otro equipo. "Su gente sabe que queremos renovarle. Sabemos que hay interés en él, cualquiera amaría tenerlo en su equipo, pero nosotros estamos intentando algo que funcione y, si es necesario, igualaremos la oferta", dijo. Los agentes de Chapu esperan una oferta para hoy.
Unfortunately for the Spurs the thought of a trade of his rights to Chicago to facilitate Nocioni lessens with the availability of Darko to Chicago.
I doubt Paxson and Skiles are ready to give a lot of moeny to a player like Darko. For them, character and attitude are really important.
Can a spanish speaking poster translate the article, please ?
Yeah, but there are rumblings.... Although there is talk they are still trying to get Gasol-- Nocioni has a lot of interest from the Griz.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruno
We will see but I don't see Darko or Gasol with a Bulls jersey next year.Quote:
Originally Posted by ploto
Darko because of his poor work ethic and Gasol because he will likely stay with Memphis and will never be traded for a Nocioni+Noah package.
And it doesn't change that Nocioni with a Spurs jersey next year is a long shot.
the article sais basically,that the spurs resigned J.V.,Fabri and Bonner and ¨they think¨(Ole) that it would be not place for Scola in the roster this year eather.
This is just something that this reporter thinks,not something that the spurs F.O or Scola said.
Sólo queda que los Spurs canjeen los derechos a otro equipo, pero el ala pivote está cada día más cerca de seguir en el Tau Cerámica.
Translation :
Spurs may trade his rights to another team, but with days passing ,Scola is and more more likely to stay in TAU.
they just need something to talk about.Just like us.
But they´re just rumors that´s all.
Yep,Quote:
Originally Posted by ArgSpursFan
just presumptions, no facts.
This is not an announcement with some new insight. The article is a collection of information leading to the conclusion that we all see before us as it stands today.
The information referenced in the article isn't as fresh as what we know today, actually:
1. Citing the S.A. Express-News, the Spurs are signing Jacque Vaughn for 2 more years, Fabricio Oberto for 3 more.
2. Spurs are negotiating with Matt Bonner, which would leave no room for Scola.
3. The only chance for Scola joining the NBA now is via a trade, otherwise the wing/pivot will likely play for Tau Ceramica.
4. Chapu Nocioni remains a free agent option that many teams would like to have but GM John Paxson will do what he can to resign Nocioni and, if necessary, match any offer for him. Chapu's agent awaits an offer.
I think Scola only has until July 15. Right?
Yeap,nothing new at all.We´ve been talking about it for at least two weeks now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solid D
Yup, couldn't have said it better myself! :readingQuote:
Originally Posted by ArgSpursFan
Bullshit. That's just the newspaper opinion. There's still chances.
Oh, a warning to those who don't know the newspaper: don't take too serious their news, especially from basketball. Sometimes when they publish an article about Manu they referr to him as "the right handed"... :rolleyes
Oh well.
Olé = Hoopsworld = Bull Shit
They don't think Butler is better. He's trade bait. But they can't get Scola out of his contract for what they want to pay.Quote:
Originally Posted by urunobili
Supposedly the item about Chicago keeping Nocioni is a quote:
Roghly translated: 'we know there is interest from other teams but we want to keep him and will try to sign him. If there is another offer, we will match it.'
Even if if that is a direct quote, I doubt it will tamp down the 'sign Nocioni now' bunch here.
The hell you say! :lmao
And the beat goes on...
Retarded.
we all knew Scola wasn't gonna come over this year. I don't even want him anymore, and I never really wanted him. I think we can get something pretty good in return for him.
theres still hope
i believe.......
But they will gladly pay that amount to Elson last year and Bonner this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam
Because they don't have a buyout. That kind of distorts the whole process. He needs more money than a speculative Euro league commodity should command.Quote:
Originally Posted by ploto
is ian coming over?
I doubt it.
who says he is willing to come over for that contract? what proof do we have that he doesn't want the entire MLE?Quote:
Originally Posted by ploto
http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/b...a.1300a8f.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by K-State Spur
Scola is seeking a three-year contract worth between $9 million and $10 million, about a third of which would go to paying the $3.5 million buyout he has with Tau.
3 years 9 million? :lol
He wants what Oberto makes, and hasn't proven shit in the NBA?
Fuck off Scola.
3 years/$9M would have been a great deal for Scola, especially if the third year was team option. But, obviously the Spurs don't want him enough to pay him that money.
You realize Oberto got 3years/$8M on his first contract without proving anything in the NBA too. And Scola has proven himself more internationally that Oberto had. 3years/$9M would have been very reasonable for Scola.Quote:
Originally Posted by T Park
Adding to that:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kori Ellis
Calderon: 3 years, $7+ million (2 years ago)
Oberto: 3 years, $7.5 million (2 years ago)
Nocioni: 3 years, $8+ million (3 years ago)
Garbajosa: 3 years, $12+ million (1 year ago)
Anthony Parker: 3 years, $13 million (1 year ago)
If anything, I think his asking price is below market value.
True. That's why I'm saying that if he really only wanted 3 years/$9M, then that was very reasonable. Obviously, the Spurs didn't want him here badly enough to pay that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ariel
Well, if you could somehow trade Elson wich doesnt look likely for some ungodknown reason, then you bring in Scola.
I didn't realize Oberto made that much.
Scola has droppd his demands down obviously.
I think that's how much Scola has been asking for the last few years.Quote:
Originally Posted by T Park
That was last year. This year I'm not sure they'll even sit down and listen to him anyway, considering there's simply no room for him after the return of Oberto, Horry and Bonner.Quote:
Originally Posted by T Park
And BTW, the year before last, when the Spurs came out saying the buyout was like $14+ million, that was a half truth. I remember reading on Olé that Scola said that though that was the actual number, Tau was willing to let him go for about the same $3.5M figure. Make of that what you will.
ungodknown reason = Elson has zero trade value
wow, what a shock
Scola not coming
Scola = greatest spurs player to never wear a spurs uniform
Jul 4 - The Bulls are interested in acquiring the rights to Spanish league power forward Luis Scola from San Antonio. Andres Nocioni is not likely to be involved in a trade to the Spurs. The Bulls may offer Chris Duhon if he is not included in a larger deal. -- Arlington Heights Daily Herald
Duhon for Scola would blow, IMO - but I guess only if he's sure to come to the US. I don't see any reason to enrich a conference title contender, even if it is the East, for a back-up point guard.