Id like to see White return and Wiliams go to the Toros for a while. Melzer and the rest make the summer league interesting.
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Id like to see White return and Wiliams go to the Toros for a while. Melzer and the rest make the summer league interesting.
I don't think anyone is calling him a thug. But if he didn't get with the program at a solid school like Zona, he has to be considered a boom-bust player, don't you think?Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcus Bryant
So what did he do, sulk a little? BFD.
Sulked his way to a 16.6PPG 6.7RPG on almost 50% shooting season....definitely worth the risk of being labeled a "bad chemistry" guy if you ask me.
The Spurs have a way of tabling some of those traits...
I've read just about everything out there available on Williams...I think he's getting a bad rap from the "draft experts" on the attitude thing...the wheels came off that Zona team last year and Williams was the only one that kept giving it 100% to win...maybe he took some shots out of the system, but after you pass the ball 10 times in a row and the guy bricks the shot that can happen.
Don't forget that the Spurs have the ultimate Lute/Zona insider in Sean Elliott. If there were really character issues to worry about the Spurs would have known about it.
I liked Marcus Williams with Arizona, he was bad ass his freshman year but his sophomore year he went down a bit. I think it was because he was tryin to do too much and plus with Budinger being there.
Both.Quote:
Originally Posted by SsKSpurs21
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OK, I'll bite. I'll be rooting for White as well during the summer league games. He made quite an impression during his brief stints. Plus the sombrero thing at the championship celebration was a very nice touch!Quote:
Originally Posted by SsKSpurs21
Now I say all this as a fan who has never seen Williams play. So I can't comment on him.
For the future, I want to see White earning a roster spot and some minimal rotation minutes this coming season. Then blossoming into a regular rotation guy the following year in place of Barry.
Williams can do his 1-year internship in D-league and hopefully become a minimal rotation guy the following season or sooner for that matter. Of course, there is an outside chance he could beat out White.
Ideally, I hope both these cats work out and force their way onto the roster. I hope they become the future wing men of this team - assuming the Spurs don't acquire someone better in the interim.
I would hold on to both.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcus Bryant
And keep them away from each other. :)
So, I asked in the official summer league thread, but got no response... anyways, does anyone have an idea or reason for why Williams attempted just two shots? Was he intentionally deferring? Was he defended well? Not part of the game plan?
I'm dying to know.
Would love an opinion.
Thanks...
The guy is in his first semblance of a professional basketball game after playing as a sophomore in college. Give him (and us) a break.Quote:
Originally Posted by JMarkJohns
I asked a simple question. I wondered if Marcus looked into the game today. It wasn't a Marcus game, so I was trying to drum up some answers, since I'm a big fan, of both he and the university he attended.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Body
Cut me some slack. I volunteer information when I have it, and ask for it when I don't. Forgive my ignorance, it certainly isn't willful. Not much I could do, since I had to be away from the computer at the time his game was being broadcast.
Going 1-2 just doesn't seem like Williams was involved, either because he was willfully distancing himself from forcing shots because of his "selfish" stigma, or because of some other reason. Asking anyone who may know certainly shouldn't be an issue, so why don't you take the self-stuck stick out of your ass and get off my case.
Yeah, sorry about that. He looked like he was trying to fit in and not make mistakes. I wouldn't read too much out of his being quiet - Durant and Fazekas both played poorly in game two. It's nerves and excitement. That said, he may not do much this year at all, since the Spurs tend to develop their players slowly.
I said in some of the player reports I gave on draft night here that I feared all the negative talk about him being a "selfish" player may turn him a little passive for a while. He's much more of an assertive scorer, and much of his playmaking is based upon it. Maybe he has the good sense, right now, not to shoot unless open since his shot was a little streaky during the camps. Ya know, try and help in other ways, although his rebounding was low. He did have two blocks and a steal, though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Body
I want him to make the Spurs. I think they are great for him, but I'm afraid that if he intentionally defers to others, then he'll take away the one thing that got him drafted in the first place: his scoring ability.
For as good a prospect as White is, Marcus is a far better scorer. Maybe he's a bit more raw, and therefore not adjusted yet, so I realize I need to give time, it's just with 2nd-round picks, time isn't always guaranteed.
I think he'll make the Spurs' roster and, IMO, I don't think there's any doubt about it. They aren't drafting him to pick the better between him and White - they have complementary skills and can develop side-by-side. The Spurs aren't taking a flier on him and expecting him to pan out immediately. They're planning long-term.
That's what it sounded like by them saying they scouted him.
Hopefully his shot returns, because it's sweet and consistant most times. Once it does, with a little coaching and structure, I have no doubt he'll be an impact player.
He and White really should play well off each other, as you said.
James White, nuff said.
The Spurs summer league team really lacked any playmaking from the point guard position. Their best playmaker was Jackie Butler in the post. Williams was playing off the ball and didn't get many touches at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by JMarkJohns
He got his shots in the first couple minutes of the game but then never got another shot. His defense, however, was solid. He had a nice block at the basket and tipped away a few other passes.
Overall, he was timid and that was compounded by him not getting the ball much. From that game, the only thing I took out of it is that his arms are damn long and they can disrupt an offense on at least the summer league level.
I'm pretty sure williams will make the team. Local players drafted that "high" (spurs wise :p) are imo not projects but players able to sign right away. HE'll maybe end up playing in Austin but would be surprising if he gets not a contract.
Easy James White
Trade Beno and both should be on the team
Right now, I have to say White if it has to be one or the other.
However, I agree that probably both will make the roster with Williams being sent to the Toros for a year of internship.
marcus williams>cupcake
Sign White just to silence all the "boring" critics. :smokin