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Re: 2007-08 D-League Draft/Season Preview , Austin Toros roster
I like Stukes, he played well in the big games at UGA.
Cook another point guard ?? I guess D Wash is gonna be on the Spurs the whole season.
6th round pick Stricker is from Devine. It says he played semi-pro here in w/ the San Antonio Bombers in the SWBL ? Can someone enlighten me on the SWBL ....
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7th rounder Daryl Dorsey actually had a profile on nba-com 2005 draft prospects.
He was 2nd leading scorer and 8th in assists at JUCO level nationally.
Interesting....
only 6'1 though
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Re: 2007-08 D-League Draft/Season Preview , Austin Toros roster
Toros Picks
1st round: Kevin Pittsnogle - Outside shooting bigman. Can't rebound but has NBA potential.
2nd round: Squeaky Johnson - 5'10 point guard who can pass and D up.
3rd round: Melvin Council - 6'3 point guard from NAIA level.
4th round: Levi Stukes - 6'2 tweener guard who likes to shoot.
5th round: Ashanti Cook - 6'2 point guard from Georgetown.
6th round: Brad Stricker - 6'11 and 280 pounds. He was one of the centers I wanted.
7th round: Daryl Dorsey - 6' point guard out of a community college
8th round: Joseph "Mookie" Works - 6'7 SF from Tarleton State via Sam Houston HS in San Antonio.
Wow. The Toros have really loaded up at point guard. It looks like Darius Washington isn't in their plans, which means he should be sticking around San Antonio for a while.
This point guard drafting strategy makes sense though because you need a solid point guard to run a successful D-League team. Taking a bunch of them and hoping one or two emerge is the way to go if you couldn't get Gill or Kruger.
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Pittsnogle the outside shooting, non rebounding more white version of Dennis Rodman.
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9th round: Tim Bush - 6'6 PF out of Baylor. Averaged six points and four boards his senior season last year with Baylor. I guess this is the type of talent you get in the 9th round of the d-league draft . . .
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Why on Earth would you have wanted Stricker...
On paper he is the definition of a big stiff.
I have never ever seen him though, but still it looks like he has done little.
Blackshear was taken in the last round ??? I guess that means he is expected to play in Europe... He was a good player at Marshall
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10th round: Ronald Blackshear - 6'5 shooting guard who played at Marshall and Temple. Pretty nice player actually if he's anything like he was a couple years ago. Him and Langford should be able to score nicely on the DLeauge level.
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Why on Earth would you have wanted Stricker...
On paper he is the definition of a big stiff.
Exactly.
It'd allow Mahinmi to play at power forward and not have to be banged around the other big stiffs in the league. Stricker is just a big body but that alone will help out Mahinmi's development.
Mahinmi, if he wants to play next to Duncan ever, needs to learn some sort of face up game away from the basket. He can't do that in D-League if he has to battle against the number of giant stiffs in the league. It's better he gets to go against the undersized power forwards the league has to offer.
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What are the chances on a player drafted in the 5th round or later ever making an NBA roster I wonder....
I also wonder what some of these guys made salary wise playing lower level leagues oveseas..
I had a good friend play 8 seasons overseas including Slovenia and French B league and he did pretty well in terms of salary
Never forget when he emailed me about some 16 year old kid with a great handle and lots of speed and nba potential he saw play back in 98... some kid named Parker.....
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Re: 2007-08 D-League Draft/Season Preview , Austin Toros roster
Spurs officials were all over the draft up here. RC Buford and Dell Demps were upstairs most of the night with Mo McHone who was actually making the picks on the conference call. Coach Snyder announced that Chris Sullivan is going to be the strength and conditioning coach for the Toros -- he's the guy who went over to France to help out with Ian.
Da Bull has a gray nose and eyebrows instead of blue. Anthony Fuqua was the only player in attendance.
Overall a pretty solid draft. I'm surprised Majic Dorsey was still around in the 7th round. He played for Anaheim last season. Wildly inconsistent but capable of putting up 20 points or 10 assists on any given night. Fulfills our balla quotient quite nicely if he makes the team.
My girlfriend won a ball autographed by RC Buford and Quin Snyder in a drawing. I could probably make bank selling it to LJ.
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Re: 2007-08 D-League Draft/Season Preview , Austin Toros roster
ChumpDumper has a girlfriend? Interesting.
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does he know what to do with a girlfriend?
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Take her to basketball games, of course.
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Take her to basketball games, of course.
:toast
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Re: 2007-08 D-League Draft/Season Preview , Austin Toros roster
Chump, do you think this team is set up well enough so Ian can develop nicely?
Or is there some things you'd like to see get done...
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It might have been nice to have a true post scorer to play alongside Ian so he could develop a post game as timvp was saying, but Ian really needs to work on his footwork and moves too, and Pittsnogle will definitely stay out of his way.
We'll also have to see if any of these point guards not named Washington work out. I only really know anything about Dorsey. He was mostly a penetrate and kick guy when I saw him, and he got more than a few assists to Jawad Williams, who scored a lot from the spots where we would like Ian to eventually develop.
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Spurs officials were all over the draft up here. RC Buford and Dell Demps were upstairs most of the night with Mo McHone who was actually making the picks on the conference call. Coach Snyder announced that Chris Sullivan is going to be the strength and conditioning coach for the Toros -- he's the guy who went over to France to help out with Ian.
Da Bull has a gray nose and eyebrows instead of blue. Anthony Fuqua was the only player in attendance.
Overall a pretty solid draft. I'm surprised Majic Dorsey was still around in the 7th round. He played for Anaheim last season. Wildly inconsistent but capable of putting up 20 points or 10 assists on any given night. Fulfills our balla quotient quite nicely if he makes the team.
My girlfriend won a ball autographed by RC Buford and Quin Snyder in a drawing. I could probably make bank selling it to LJ.
Oh hell ya Quin Snyder my favorite college flameout. Tell the GF that should could get thousands of pesos for that ball selling to me. :lol
Seriously though, did they talk about their strategy to draft a bunch of point guards? I'm guessing the Spurs learned their lesson in summer league when the lack of point guard pretty much ruined their teams. Part of the reason James White and Marcus Williams sucked so bad is the point guards never set either one of those guys up with an easy basket.
I also gotta think the way the draft played out that we're going to see a lot of Williams, Langford and Mahinmi. They didn't really draft any players that duplicated any of those three players. Pittsnogle, Fvqua and Stricker should be pretty decent in a rotation next to Mahinmi. If Pittsnogle ever gets in shape enough to become a decent rebounder and defender, I could see him getting a call up this year.
I wonder if Williams is cool with his current situation. He didn't want to go to Europe, so the D-League was basically his only option. Did he like it that he was snatched by the Toros or did he want to be free of the Spurs? It's tough to tell at this point.
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Seriously though, did they talk about their strategy to draft a bunch of point guards?
Before the draft, Snyder said that they were looking for a point guard with their first pick. Once Gill and Watson were off the board, they couldn't resist Pittsnogle as the best player available. After that, they stocked up on points in the hope that two will stick.
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I'm guessing the Spurs learned their lesson in summer league when the lack of point guard pretty much ruined their teams. Part of the reason James White and Marcus Williams sucked so bad is the point guards never set either one of those guys up with an easy basket.
I think it was mostly because they ran only one play before Butler got traded, but point taken.
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I also gotta think the way the draft played out that we're going to see a lot of Williams, Langford and Mahinmi. They didn't really draft any players that duplicated any of those three players.
Right. Langford can probably fill in the BJ Elder role of main scorer decently enough. SF wasn't really a need since Williams and Bowen are on the team. The shotgun approach to point guard makes sense for this training camp.
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Pittsnogle, Fvqua and Stricker should be pretty decent in a rotation next to Mahinmi. If Pittsnogle ever gets in shape enough to become a decent rebounder and defender, I could see him getting a call up this year.
True enough. He doesn't seem like a Spur-type pick off the bat, but he does have a real NBA skill and is worth taking a chance on as a project.
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I wonder if Williams is cool with his current situation. He didn't want to go to Europe, so the D-League was basically his only option. Did he like it that he was snatched by the Toros or did he want to be free of the Spurs? It's tough to tell at this point.
If he likes the Spurs system at all, he should be ok with it. He should get decent minutes if they go with a three man swing rotation of Langford/Bowen/Williams. He can still be picked up by any team if he does well.
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Here's how I think the 10-man roster could look after training camp:
C - Kevin Pittsnogle/Brad Stricker
PF - Anthony Fuqua/Eric Dawson
SF - Justin Bowen/Marcus Williams
SG - Keith Langford/Kenton Paulino
PG - Squeaky Johnson/Daryl Dorsey
My pick for backup PG is based solely on whoever wears his nickname on his headband.
http://www.wbaball.net/images/topnews_dorsey260.jpg
Stricker or one of the point guards will be the first one waived if someone good shows up in the player pool during the season.
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Dorsey has the kind of backstory that makes you want to root for him.
http://www.nba.com/dleague/anaheim/dorsey_061221.html
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Re: 2007-08 D-League Draft/Season Preview , Austin Toros roster
So when Ian gets sent down who do the Toros bump off the a 10-man roster? Stricker? Dawson?
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So when Ian gets sent down who do the Toros bump off the a 10-man roster? Stricker? Dawson?
No one. D-League teams can take up to two send-downs without having to waive any of their regular players.
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Majic Doresey has Spur written all over him.
Does he have the talent to make it to the big club though?
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Jawad Williams and Sean Banks, I knew them from the NBA pre-draft camp. They’re good players
If I'm not mistaken, is that not a former Spurs training camp a year or two ago?