Or the Spurs wanted to gift the Rockets a guy who was a +18 in his second NBA game.Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
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Or the Spurs wanted to gift the Rockets a guy who was a +18 in his second NBA game.Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
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shit... against a fast paced team he may not even see PT... but against bully teams like the jazz that play really PHYSICAL... HE MAY BE THE DIFFERENCE TO WIN BALL GAMES FOR THEMQuote:
Originally Posted by timvp
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Originally Posted by timvp
I'd like to recommend a book for you to read:
Letting Go: How to Get Past Your Past by John Farley
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Originally Posted by ShoogarBear
Shit...Scola's a scorer who's about as polished as he's going to get and he's scored 7 points total in 2 games. Fire Pop.
Brent Barry has outscored him.
His rebounding has been better than expected...but I'd hardly say you can qualify him as a good rebounder yet...unless you are willing to aslo qualify him as a crappy scorer.
In short...he's done nothing yet. You guys act like we traded Kevin Durant or something.
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Originally Posted by whottt
numbnuts...he had 7 pts in his 2nd game on 3-6 shooting and last night also had 9 rebs in only 28 mins.
He will take a few weeks-months to get acclimated to the NBA, but there is no doubt that the Spurs made a huge error, because he will be a very very good player who would have filled the role of Elson- Oberto-Horry quite well by playoff time.
Its only an error in the eyes of some Spurs fans, so its not as you say"no doubt" that the Spurs made an error. if they didnt feel they had a need for him, they didnt feel like they had a need. Besides, Bonner is doing pretty well and spaces the floor better than Scola could ever dream.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimcs50
Of note, they drafted Splitter who when he comes in next year will be quite likely the player Scola is but bigger. Keep the faith.
So?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimcs50
James White scored 9 points and grabbed 3 rebounds in his first game.
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He will take a few weeks-months to get acclimated to the NBA, but there is no doubt that the Spurs made a huge error, because he will be a very very good player who would have filled the role of Elson- Oberto-Horry quite well by playoff time.
And the NBA will take a few weeks-months to get acclimated to his extremely polished moveset, and then kick his ass with bigger, faster, and superior players.
He'll be viewed as a big mistake in the same way Gordan Giricek is now viewed as a big mistake.
Steve Francis' #1 fan has no room to be sticking labels like numbnuts on others for their talent evaluations.
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In Shane Heal's first game with the Spurs he scored 11 points on 3-6 shooting and dished out 2 assists to boot...in 17 minutes.
Shane Heal used to be known around the pacific ocean territories as "The Hammer"
Because he laid down the law. Shane Heal would have been a better acquisition than Udrih, even though he was like 36, slow, and didn't do anything.
And this thread was started why?
Haven't we kicked this around from every angle enough already?
Now SpursDynasty 21 will no doubt be here soon enough to doom and gloom about it all over again.
Can we please let it go?
When he plays well, or when he doesn't, can we put it in NBA Central unless it's a Spurs/Rockets game?
Nine boards against the Jazz is nothing you can write off. They work the boards as hard as anyone in the league. I think he'll be able to at least rebound respectably at this level. Scoring? Well, as whottt is pointing out it may be a little early to proclaim anything, but I think he'll be alright there.
The bottom line will always come down to defense. If a big man can't play it he isn't going to see much PT from Pop. From what I've seen he brings good energy to it, but not a whole lot else at the moment. Foul trouble was a big problem for him in the preseason, and a big part of what kept him on the court last night was that the refs were calling the game pretty loosely (as they often do in Utah, it seems). How his defense pans out will be the determining factor as to how big a mistake the Spurs was.
It was a mistake to send him to a division rival for that little. If it turns out that he can defend well enough that he could have actually earned some playing time for the Spurs then it's a big mistake.
Horry? Scola would have hit clutch 3s and been our 2nd best post defender?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimcs50
We didn't have the space for him. Bottom line. Even if he was better than Elson/Oberto/Horry combined, there wasn't space available for him to play, because these players were under contract, Mahinmi and Splitter were draft picks and this was the last chance for him to come to the NBA.
Timing is as important to these things as everything else. I'm not thrilled he went to a divisional rival that needed help, but I think the Spurs were the people most aware of his game and how it likely translate and he wasn't important enough to sign over the people who were here and knew the system.
Let it go already. Bitching about it isn't going to reverse the decisions that have brought us where we are.
I don't think there is one simple answer here. As best I can tell, the Spurs considered these facts, at least:
-The Spurs have two other PF prospects in Mahinmi and Splitter;
-Scola's salary would have put him in the same neighborhood as Horry and ahead of all other Spurs bigs not named Duncan;
-Spurs are right at the luxury tax threshold
-There were legit doubts as to Scola's ability to play and make a meaningful contribution on an NBA level; and
-The overlap of preferred court position between Scola and Duncan, regardless of what you label it.
The Spurs decided that it wasn't worth the $10 million gamble, plus whatever luxury tax penalties they would have to pay to bring him in.
I still think it was the wrong decision, but I think I understand why the decision was made.
Trying to think of the last big name free agent to leave his current team for the Spurs......Quote:
Originally Posted by ShoogarBear
Still thinking.
sun fan can not think they have no brainsQuote:
Originally Posted by da_suns_fan__
it was against the jazz who the spurs almost sweeped in the playoffs :cooldevilQuote:
Originally Posted by timvp
FIFY.Quote:
Originally Posted by ducks
The irony.
sun players can not thinkQuote:
Originally Posted by da_suns_fan__
they showed it in the playoffs their fans are the same way
Last one I can remember the Spurs even chasing was Jason Kidd. The guy he would have replaced just won a Finals MVP award. The lesson: God is on our side.Quote:
Originally Posted by da_suns_fan__
signing grant hill is not exactly signing a superstar sun fan
he is a has been
players that play for the spurs are willing to take paycuts
just to play for that organization
I never he said it was.Quote:
Originally Posted by ducks
But signing Steve Nash was. And Danny Manning. And Tom Chambers.
Still trying to think of a single big free-agent signing by the Spurs.
Have they EVER had one?
I think Oden is out of the question, yes?
I will give you nash
they resigned manu, duncan, david robinson and tp
I would think they would count
they did not lose those players to other teams
I think duncan is greater then any player the suns signed
I also know sun fans who would rather have tp then nash
tp would give suns a bigger window to win titles