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Walton: " Manu is the example of what a NBA player should be"
TRANSLATION AVAILABLE BELOW GUYS
it's in spanish guys.. kinda lengthy for me to translate it as i am @ the office now... maybe someone could for y'all...
http://www.ole.clarin.com/notas/2007.../01531550.html
Ya no es aquel longilíneo joven que, con el pelo colorado y una vestimenta bien hippie, empezó a brillar en la Universidad de UCLA y, con apenas 19 años, fue arrestado por manifestarse contra la Guerra de Vietnam y criticar públicamente al presidente Nixon. "Voy a seguir luchando por la libertad, una vida más humana y un mundo mejor", decía. En la NBA, pese a las numerosas lesiones que limitaron su carrera, se convertiría en uno de los mejores pivotes de la historia. Los años pasaron y, con 55, Bill Walton sigue dejando su huella con mucha personalidad y un estilo muy marcado, ahora como uno de los comentaristas top de la NBA (de ESPN). Verborrágico, Bill sorprendió a Olé con su fanatismo por Ginóbili. Su análisis, aunque parezca exagerado, no tiene desperdicio.
—¿Qué le encanta de él?
—Manu es una de las razones fundamentales del éxito de los Spurs. Es la fuerza que los lidera, ese espíritu, ese deseo ingobernable de triunfar, de no claudicar, de seguir ganando más… Lo que más amo es esa grandeza competitiva. Da lo mejor cuando más se necesita. Es un jugador que nació para rendir bajo presión. Su habilidad para penetrar, crear, imaginar, sortear obstáculos y la capacidad de definición son maravillosas... Igual, quedan en un segundo plano. Su pasión por el juego es lo que lo hace distinto. Cuando uno enumera las cosas que hacen especial a un jugador, aquellas que decía John Wooden (NdeR: ganó diez títulos y, para muchos, fue el mejor DT universitario de la historia), Manu representa cada una de ellas: entusiasmo, amistad, lealtad, cooperación, iniciativa, control de uno mismo, solidaridad, afectuosidad, entrega sin miedos, desarrollo de habilidades, compromiso con el equipo, autoconfianza, química grupal... Siempre volvemos a su grandeza. Eso lo define.
—Ufff, Bill. Se nota que es un fanático de Manu.
—¿Y cómo no hacerlo (abre grande sus ojos)? Manu es un gran campeón y ha cambiado cómo el mundo del básquet debe definir al jugador ideal. Ginóbili lo es, el espejo en el que la nueva generación de jugadores de la NBA debe mirarse. Tenemos mucha suerte de tenerlo en esta liga.
—¿Qué lugar ocupa Manu entre sus favoritos?
—El segundo lugar después de Steve Nash.
—¿En toda la NBA?
—Por supuesto. Amo su corazón, carácter, la mente... Es un campeón no sólo en la cancha sino también del espíritu, de la vida... Me encanta ver cómo ha trabajado como profesional. Y no sólo hablo de su juego sino de lo que se esforzó para aprender el idioma, adaptarse a vivir en otro país, relacionarse con sus compañeros, entender al técnico, cómo llevó la carga de representar a un país entero… Manu y Nash han hecho el mejor trabajo de todos los extranjeros y han terminado enseñándole muchas cosas al resto. Hay que pararse y aplaudir. Ginóbili, como Steve, es el ejemplo de lo que debe ser un jugador de la NBA.
—Usted llegó al Salón de la Fama en el 93. ¿Ve a Ginóbili ahí en el futuro?
—Es una cuestión de tiempo. Sus habilidades están, ha logrado mucho éxito en pocos años. Hay apenas un puñado de jugadores en el mundo que han podido ganar tanto en tan pocos años. Y si le sumamos lo que hizo en Europa ganando la Euroliga y con la Selección argentina logrando el oro olímpico tenemos a alguien que no podría faltar. Está en camino a ingresar.
—¿Creyó la primera vez que vio a Manu que él podía llegar tan lejos?
—Me encantó desde el primer día que lo vi por su habilidad de entender el juego. Es el jugador con el que un técnico sueña: ve el juego, juega con emoción, arregla lo que está mal... Lo más importante a este nivel no son las habilidades físicas o técnicas, son las mentales y emocionales. Y él las domina como pocos.
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His favorite NBA player is Nash, then Manu.
Interesting.
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Walton's opinion means jack shit.
He can bash all the Spurs during the Kobe/Shaq days, then when the Spurs are #1 he kisses ass.
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Originally Posted by Walter Craparita
Walton's opinion means jack shit.
He can bash all the Spurs during the Kobe/Shaq days, then when the Spurs are #1 he kisses ass.
We know that, but is funny :)
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Translation please? No habla mi Espanol.
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Re: Walton: " Manu is the example of what a NBA player should be"
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Originally Posted by smeagol
His favorite NBA player is Nash, then Manu.
Interesting.
smeagol you piece of shit. translate this shit already :madrun
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Re: Walton: " Manu is the example of what a NBA player should be"
I made some time to translate this for y'all...
He is no longer that tall young man, which with his red hair and hippie outfit started to shine on UCLA and with barely 19 years old, was arrested for manifesting against Vietnam and publicly criticized President Nixon. “I am going to keep fighting for freedom, a more humanized life and a better world” he said. On the NBA and despite his injuries limited his career, he was becoming in one of the best centers in the history of the game. The years passed by and with 55 Bill Walton is still leaving his mark with personality and much defined style. Now as one of ESPN’s commentators, talkative Bill caught us unguarded with his admiration for Ginobili. His analysis, a little exaggerated on our point of view has no waste.
- What is is that you love about him?
- Manu is one of the main reasons of the Spurs success. He is the force that leads them, that spirit he has, that uncontrollable desire to succeed, not to stop being the best, to keep wining more… What I love the most is his competitiveness greatness. He gives the best when it’s needed the most. He is a player that was meant to perform under pressure. His ability to penetrate, create, imagine, go through obstacles and his finishing capabilities are wonderful… anyhow, that is still on his b side. His passion for the game is what makes him different. When one start counting all the things that make one player special, those that John Wooden (he won 10 titles and for many, he was the best university coach of basketball history) Manu represents each one of them: Enthusiasm, friendship, loyalty, cooperation, initiative, self control, solidarity, tenderness, give himself without fears, skill development, team commitment, self confidence, chemistry… we always come back to his greatness THAT defines him…
-Ufff, Bill. It is is pretty obvious you are a Manu fan
- How couldn’t I (he open his eyes)? Manu is a great champion and he has changed the way how the basketball world should define the ideal player. Ginobili is, is the mirror that the new generation of NBA players should be looking at. We are very lucky to have him on the league.
-How do you rank Manu among your favorite players?
- Second alter Steve Nash
- In all the NBA?
Of course. I love his heart, character, his mind… He is a champ not only on the court but also of the spirit, of life… i love seeing how he has worked as a professional. And I am not only talking about his game but all the effort he did to learn the language, adapt to live in our country, build relationships with his teammates, understand the coach, how he carried the load to represent a whole country… Manu and Nash have done the best job of all foreign players and ended up teaching lots of things to the rest. You have to stand up and give a round of applauses to them. Ginobili like Steve, are the best example of what an NBA player should be like.
-You reached the Hall of Fame on 1993. do you see Ginobili there in the future?
It is just a matter of time. His skills are there, he has had lots of success in a very short period of time. There are just a few players in the world that have been able to win as much in such a time frame. And if we add what he has done in Europe winning the Euroleague and with the National team winning gold we have someone that shouldn’t be skipped. He is on his way in.
- The first time you saw him play did you think he would reach this heights?
I liked his him since the very first day I saw him, mostly for his ability to understand the game. He is the player that any coach dreams of having: Sees the game, plays with emotion, fixes what is broken… the most important thing at this level are not physical or technical skills, the mental and emotional ones are. He dominates them as few have ever done.
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thanks uronobili! ive been waiting for the translation the whole day :lol
didnt know bill's manu fan...his comments to manu are dead on :smokin
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Walton is smarter than I thought!
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For once, I agree with Walton...never thought I'd hear those words come out of my mouth.
Thanks for the translation, uronobili!
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thanks urunobili :tu you are at least 1000000000x cooler than smeagma
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I am going to keep fighting for freedom, a more humanized life and a better world”
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Wtf? :lol
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-You reached the Hall of Fame on 1993. do you see Ginobili there in the future?
It is just a matter of time. His skills are there, he has had lots of success in a very short period of time. There are just a few players in the world that have been able to win as much in such a time frame. And if we add what he has done in Europe winning the Euroleague and with the National team winning gold we have someone that shouldn’t be skipped. He is on his way in.
This is the first time I've heard of any member of the national media mention Manu as a possibility for the HOF, and Walton made it sound like he was a lock, rather then merely a candidate. To date, I haven't heard anyone mention Tony. Tim you'd have to think is a shoe-in, no brainer. However, (and I don't want to put the cart before the horse) conceivably the Spurs could have three future HOF's playing for them right now.
With Tim it's a done deal, stick a fork in him because he will end up in Springfield. With Manu he's been an integral part of 3 NBA championships and counting, a World championship and an Olympic gold medal and whatever additional hardware he picks up between now and whenever he last laces up his shoes you'd have at the very least pencil him in. If Tony keeps progressing like he has been since he first suited up for the Spurs at age 19 then he could very well end up being inducted as well.
Now I'll just get back to enjoying game #3 and also the rest of the season before I start thinking about how many future HOF's could very well come from this latest edition of the San Antonio Spurs. I just thought that it was very complimentary of someone with the reputation of Bill Walton to acknowledge Manu in those terms, and if Charles Barkley had his way, Manu would have his bust in Springfield tomorrow. :D
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Perhaps the media isn't talking about Tony going to the HOF, at this point, because he's so young and has many years to go (at least I hope so) before he walks away.
Ginobili and Duncan are closer.
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That translation seems iffy, I was expecting to read Walton saying: Throw it down big man! A couple of times for no reason at all.
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Originally Posted by Demo Dick Marcinko
This is the first time I've heard of any member of the national media mention Manu as a possibility for the HOF, and Walton made it sound like he was a lock, rather then merely a candidate. To date, I haven't heard anyone mention Tony. Tim you'd have to think is a shoe-in, no brainer. However, (and I don't want to put the cart before the horse) conceivably the Spurs could have three future HOF's playing for them right now.
With Tim it's a done deal, stick a fork in him because he will end up in Springfield. With Manu he's been an integral part of 3 NBA championships and counting, a World championship and an Olympic gold medal and whatever additional hardware he picks up between now and whenever he last laces up his shoes you'd have at the very least pencil him in. If Tony keeps progressing like he has been since he first suited up for the Spurs at age 19 then he could very well end up being inducted as well.
Now I'll just get back to enjoying game #3 and also the rest of the season before I start thinking about how many future HOF's could very well come from this latest edition of the San Antonio Spurs. I just thought that it was very complimentary of someone with the reputation of Bill Walton to acknowledge Manu in those terms, and if Charles Barkley had his way, Manu would have his bust in Springfield tomorrow. :D
With Manu, the thing that will get him to the Hall of Fame isn't his NBA performances -- though those will undoubtedly help. I think (and I've argued here for several years) that Manu is basically a no-brainer for the Hall of Fame at this point because he's the dominant non-American in the international game over an appreciable period of time. International players have historically been viewed differently than NBA players in Hall of Fame terms; Drazen Petrovic the NBA player isn't likely a Hall of Famer, but Drazen Petrovic, the NBA player who was a force in international ball for years was a mortal lock. Manu is Drazen Petrovic with a better NBA resume, if not a better international resume as well.
You're right to say that Timmy is equally a mortal lock.
But with Tony, you don't yet have the full array of success that Manu has had. At this point, Tony is a player with a primarily-NBA based resume; that resume makes him a 3-time champion and a 2-time All-Star. But neither of those things is enough, by itself, to warrant enshrinement. The Hall is very, very exclusive when it comes to NBA players. It's hard to find too many guys who weren't on the Top 50 list a few years ago; those who weren't tend to be guys who had monsterous collegiate careers (another criteria for selection). Tony has just an NBA career at this point. While it's a good NBA career, it's not even close to being Hall-worthy at this point.
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Originally Posted by thispego
thanks urunobili :tu you are at least 1000000000x cooler than smeagma
Fucker I was busy all day.
I will translate the next one.
And $170 is not that much money, cheap bastard :smokin
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Originally Posted by E20
That translation seems iffy, I was expecting to read Walton saying: Throw it down big man! A couple of times for no reason at all.
well.. i did my best buddy... next time go ahead and you takr the time to do it if didn't like it... what does iffy mean by the way? :wtf
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Originally Posted by urunobili
well.. i did my best buddy... next time go ahead and you takr the time to do it if didn't like it... what does iffy mean by the way? :wtf
He wasn't making a joke at your expense.... he was mocking Bill Walton.
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Originally Posted by Phenomanul
He wasn't making a joke at your expense.... he was mocking Bill Walton.
What he said. :lol
Nice job on the translation. :tu
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Originally Posted by smeagol
Fucker I was busy all day.
I will translate the next one.
And $170 is not that much money, cheap bastard :smokin
send me some money then, moneybags :greedy
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Originally Posted by SpursFanFirst
For once, I agree with Walton...
Thanks for the translation, uronobili!
:clap
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Originally Posted by FromWayDowntown
Manu is Drazen Petrovic with a better NBA resume, if not a better international resume as well.
Manu's resume is a lot better than Petrovic's.
And the only title left to win is FIBA World Cup ('stolen' by the refs in 2002)... So, at this time, he's the only one who won NBA, Euro & Olympics.
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Re: Walton: " Manu is the example of what a NBA player should be"
Uh, he also said Steve Nash is what an NBA player should be.