Not really. Peak definitely tried to play a stronger hand than he had. The original plan didn't even involve the Victoria Courts but the Alamodome parking lot. They just fucked it up and the County did not.
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Not really. Peak definitely tried to play a stronger hand than he had. The original plan didn't even involve the Victoria Courts but the Alamodome parking lot. They just fucked it up and the County did not.
Yes, I understand that, but the political pressure put on him and the Spurs about replacing poor peoples homes with an arena played a huge hand in this. Litigation in the case went thru to 2001.Quote:
Originally Posted by MannyIsGod
My guess is that the land owners just outside the arena are waiting for more of a windfall than anybody is offering.
At this point, if you want development, the county or city should try to step in with eminent domain. I'm sure the land owners would howl, but I'm also sure that something would finally happen.
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Originally Posted by MannyIsGod
They have a pill for that. just a heads up! :toast
The Verizon (nee MCI) Center is located right next to Chinatown (I will skip the obvious about Blaze stumbling upon it with his friends). USArena (nee Captial Centre) was located in Landover, MD.
I suspect by most people's definition, every place in DC is "ghetto" except for 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.
That and the Old Ebbitt Grill. Everywhere else in DC is ghetto... :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by ShoogarBear
We were at the Kalorama last year, it was frickin kewl
Sort of like, why did they build it in a lesser business district to begin with? Why not somewhere more popular or fan friendly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kori Ellis
Well, out definitions of "ghetto" and "hood" are on two different wave lengths.Quote:
Originally Posted by TampaDude
Ok, swap it out with the Target Center.
Dude, the arena was built on the east side. And dude, it's at&t center.Quote:
Originally Posted by remingtonbo2001
Did you even read the purpose of that list?Quote:
Originally Posted by T Park
Did you happen to attend an underachieving, inner city school? One comes to that conclusion with said grammar and spelling.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mdot.HIM.not
Anyway, the Saints practiced in the Alamodome, it was only because of an NCAA event scheduled a year prior to Katrina which forced them to vacate the Alamodome. The Saints wanted a place as close to their downtown HQ to practice which is why they went to Burbank.
as much as I hate saying this since i hate the lakers
the staples center location is exactly where it should be , in downtown L.A. with mass transit in place (for a city that is horrible in mass transit like L.A.) they put it in the city center. where it should be and its beautiful, revives downtown.
The Nokia Theatre opened this month next door and now you have a great vibe in that area, and many bars are now opening, resturants and its really bringing life back to downtown l.a. Lots of people are going early to eat before the game, etc.
The downtown SA area, has mass transit going in and out and well the alamodome, it was cool and the places to hang in downtown SA was really cool.
The extra $$$$ from other businesses in downtown after and before a spurs game would of brought much more millions in sales tax alone to the city indirectly per season.
Right now, people go home after a spurs game spending not a penny more before or after a game. I think indirectly they just lose more money but perhaps the spurs gain more money by fans spending all their cash at the SBC. LOL
FedEx Field is in the middle of the hood too and is a perfect example of poor planning. It's a huge stadium with absolutely no commercial development around it. But, is still successful because of the enormous popularity of the Redskins. I used to live in Northern Virginia so I'm familiar with the area.Quote:
Originally Posted by TampaDude
Should have built it in the blossom area where they were considering. Most people that go to the games live closer to that area anyway
When Parcells had the Cowboys in SA, he had them practice outdoors at the SAISD complex at Burbank as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buddy Holly
Why do you think the Spurs moved the game time to 7:00 last year to try to make sure people had to eat at the AT&T Center. Well, it did not work. People kept their usual plans and just came late.Quote:
Originally Posted by picnroll
Yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by SenorSpur
Except I know one year during the play-offs, it was fiesta and a team decided to move out to La Cantera and bus all the way from there.
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Originally Posted by Buddy Holly
i believe for interested parties there are revitalization programs available around that area..not sure exactly where or how far from the ATT.. but there are business incentives available
:wtf You think FedEx is in the middle of the hood? Landover Mall is "absolutely no commercial development"?Quote:
Originally Posted by bresilhac
:lmao Good thing you were in Northern Virginia, then.
That area has improved since the '80s and '90s, for sure...when the Capital Centre/US Airways Arena was there back in the day, that was the 'hood...just like the Addison Road/District Heights area nearby.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShoogarBear
Should have been put right next to the Alamodome. A branch of the Riverwalk should have been developed to lead right up to both stadiums. Could have torn down the homes between Cherry and Hackberry for parking behind the stadiums and removed a portion of that drug infested neighborhhood.
To be honest I enjoyed going to the games more at the Alamodome; could grab a bite to eat beforehand or hit a sports bar after the game on the river. I have yet to stop off after a game since they have moved in to current location.
I hate to think of the impression out of towners get when they go back down Houston Street back to downtown. Do the cops at least clear out the dealers and street trash after a game or is all that visible ?