tony parker is the best player in the nba.
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tony parker is the best player in the nba.
manu is not the second best player on the spursQuote:
Originally Posted by romain.star
Parker is the best PG in the NBA today. Nash is a horrible defensive player. Kidd is past his prime and too slow. Iverson got out-played by Parker in their series last year, when Parker was guarding him. Chris Paul is injury prone and his defense is mediocre. Baron Davis is totally unpredictable.
Parker's defense is underrated. He is a better defender than any of the players listed above, and that is a fact. His speed allows him to stay in front of players who are used to penetrating. His only problem is that fans hate French people, and they're jealous that he's married to Eva.
If we were choosing to trade either Parker or Manu. I'd choose Manu. You'd be a fool not to.Quote:
Originally Posted by romain.star
Sorry. Parker is better at getting there than any of them. See: Points in the paint(2006-2007).Quote:
Originally Posted by da_suns_fan__
Just for age perhaps and latest MVP of the finals, Tony would have better trade value, but nothing else. For the rest, Manu is far better player than Parker.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheAuthority
Most of fans without basketball knowledge get confused. Parker had the luck of having the opposing PG injured before the finals, and that judges gave him the MVP of the finals ahead Duncan, when he only was better than Tim in Scoring, while a little less scoring, Tim was FAR ahead in Defense and intangibles on both sides.
After realizing that, you know that Parker isn't a legend. He's a scoring guard, with improved shooting, but scoring mainly, and too one dimensional. Superior to Manu physically, so he uses to have better stats in regular season (and even with pure stats, Tony usually has better scoring, and Manu better EFFICIENCY, and +/-, and I'd ask Is scoring a better stat than overall efficiency?), when stamina and staying healthy is important in 82 games.
But in playoff, the huge diference on Basketball IQ will make Manu far more important when he has at least similar level of physical shape than Tony.
You can see it with your own eyes, when both are in their best shape, Manu is far a better player, he can score, defend, assist, and have a lot of intangibles, making him unpredictable in offense, and ind D is very active and a real PITA for the opposing team, again using a lot of BB IQ on the defensive end.
All this mentioning the performance in Spurs only, outside Spurs, Manu has shined and being able to lead winning teams, outside Spurs, Tony wasn't able to do anything near Manu's accomplishments.
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Originally Posted by Dartherus
quite true but i think TP's defensive skills are underrated...
IMO, there's no other Top PG right now who defends the way TP does.
But appart from that, TP would be an average player in any other team whereas manu would be a leader everywhere else (just as he is with his national side)
He would be a good player in another NBA team IMO, scoring a lot, but far from the recognition he has in Spurs and the lack of leadership would be also noticeable.Quote:
Originally Posted by romain.star
It would be a similar scenario like what happens when he plays for France, there's no noticeable diference of France achievements without him or with him, despite him scoring a lot when he plays for the NT.
see her in person..she has NOOOO ass.. she was wearing the velour pants that are supposed to show off her ass, but it couldnt even fill em out.. it was all baggy, and her face needs alot of makeup to have her look decent.. now dont get me wrong, id still love to smash, but for the kind of money tony has, he really struck out on this one..maybe he's using her for her money?Quote:
Originally Posted by meta2007
Why does Ducks hate so much. Look I love TP (and all Spurs mostly) but I dont think he is even in Lebrons league. Dont be stupid Ducks, come on. :lol
Manu >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Parker
Tony + 11 Spurs > Lebron + 11 Cavs
Lebron + 11 Spurs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tony + 11 Cavs
I never said Parker is better than Manu, presently. I said I would trade Manu instead of Parker, and that you'd be a fool not to. Which still holds true.
Parker may have better trade value right now, but that doesn't mean 'you'd be a fool ' not to trade Manu instead of Parker....Quote:
Originally Posted by TheAuthority
Are you sure Parker is more valuable for the franchise?, as analyzed before, Parker is a scorer, are you sure the NBA scoring PG with average Basketball IQ and quite one-dimensional are so difficult to get in NBA?
OTOH, Who would you replace Manu with? How many players with his level of talent, fundamentals, athleticism basketball IQ, plus the level of team commitment, willing to sacrifize his stats and fame for the sake of the team winning another ring, are there in the NBA?
And I think age is too overrated, BB IQ is somehow innate, not learned, you can improve it with age, sure, but you won't go from Average to Genius with age.
Just check Manu games when he had Parker's age, Manu BB IQ, at 25 years or younger, was already FAR AHEAD of the current Tony Parker.
Check his games with Virtus Bologna, or his games in World Cup of Basketball at 2002. He was already a leader and a winner back then, and already had genius level basketball IQ, not just average.
Just check it and realize that BB IQ is not as a sure thing with age, as you think. Here it seems it's taken for granted that Tony will have current Manu's IQ when he gets older, and I don't know why.
whoever entertains the thought of Parker being better than LBJ should shoot theirself right now :lol