8 Cities That Deserve an NBA Franchise...

Unlike Major League Baseball, the NBA can operate a successful franchise in nearly any city of at least 1 million in population.

The following cities deserve NBA franchises (in order):

1 - St. Louis: No brainer. 20th largest metro area in the country... one of the best sports cities in America, and there isn't another NBA franchise within 250 miles.
2 - Oklahoma City: They've already proven themselves
3 - San Diego: Largest city in the country without an NBA franchise.
4 - Tampa Bay: 19th largest city in the country, and the second largest w/out an NBA team.
5 - Baltimore: 20th largest city in the country
6 - Las Vegas: Fastest growing city in America, isn't it?
7 - Pittsburgh: Good sports town... larger market than 9 existing NBA markets.
8 - Cincinnati: Definitely large enough to support an NBA team (larger than 6 existing NBA markets), and the Pacers are the only NBA franchise within a 250 mile radius of Cinci.

Don't get me wrong... I'm not suggesting the NBA place franchises in all 8 cities. I merely saying that they could place a franchise in any of the 8.

The only 2 cities I feel absolutely SHOULD get a team as soon as the NBA can make it happen... are St. Louis and OKC.

st. louis is a great baseball town. but i wouldn't call them a great sports city. their support of the rams and mizzou athletics is lukewarm at best.

All good choices, except for Vegas. I vaguely remember David Stern saying there will never being a franchise in Vegas....no matter how much money the Maloofs have.

I'm all for OKC having a team.

OKC is only a matter of time.

Vegas is inevitable. eventually the leagues will give in because of the rate that city is growing.

rest are 'meh'

the sonics are going to OKC.


after that who knows new orleans will end up after they stop supporting that team yet again.


Kansas City is also an interesting option.

Baltimore wont happen.
Tampa shouldnt happen.
Vegas wont happen as long as Stern is in charge.
St. Louis wont support them, from what I know.
San Diego...not sure how much the market will support them or if there is any interest at all.
Pittsburgh is an interseting option, but they cant even get a stadium built for their hockey team.
Cincinatti is an option, but Columbus may be the better Ohio option, since they already have the facility.

9. New York

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9. New York

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San Diego once had a team... and I don't think they want the Clippers back anytime soon.

I see the argument about St. Louis, but I'd argue Kansas City (Mo) as a better option.

San Diego? 4 teams in Cali to choose from aren't enough already?

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Originally Posted by DOMINATOR

OKC is only a matter of time.

Vegas is inevitable. eventually the leagues will give in because of the rate that city is growing.

rest are 'meh'

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Vegas' growth may be tempered in the not-too-distant future with water issues.

The NBA won't go back to San Diego.

I can't see the Baltimore market supporting a team in-between the Sixer and Wiz.

I don't think Pittsburgh's a big basketball town, either. From what I know, I agree with what K-State Spurs said about St. Looey.

And y'know, despite all the talk, I think the support for a team in Vegas would suck unless they're a winner. That's probably the ultimate front-running town.

What about Anchorage? Don't they deserve a team???

Shelly just wants a team called the Freezers.

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Originally Posted by ShoogarBear

Shelly just wants a team called the Freezers.

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:lol good one!

Assuming the Sonics leave Seattle, I wonder if Vancouver wouldn't be worth another shot?

Athens!! Where's Kill Bill!! lol

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Originally Posted by Kent_in_Atlanta

Unlike Major League Baseball, the NBA can operate a successful franchise in nearly any city of at least 1 million in population.

The following cities deserve NBA franchises (in order):

1 - St. Louis: No brainer. 20th largest metro area in the country... one of the best sports cities in America, and there isn't another NBA franchise within 250 miles.

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Let the Hawks go to Atlanta and didn't support the Spirits. No.

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Originally Posted by Kent_in_Atlanta

2 - Oklahoma City: They've already proven themselves

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Okay.

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Originally Posted by Kent_in_Atlanta

3 - San Diego: Largest city in the country without an NBA franchise.

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Did not support those mighty Clippers and never embraced the Q's (despite Wilt Chamberlain).

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Originally Posted by Kent_in_Atlanta

B]4 - Tampa Bay:[/B] 19th largest city in the country, and the second largest w/out an NBA team.

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A lousy Florida sports town. Front-runners and seaboard transplants. Naw.

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Originally Posted by Kent_in_Atlanta

B]5 - Baltimore:[/B] 20th largest city in the country

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The Baltimore Claws -- lasted almost until the ABA regular season began. That was after public outcry forced them to change their name from "Baltimore Hustlers." :)

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Originally Posted by Kent_in_Atlanta

6 - Las Vegas: Fastest growing city in America, isn't it?

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NBA playas are there already. Seriously, LV would support an NBA team big time. They loved their Rebels.

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Originally Posted by Kent_in_Atlanta

7 - Pittsburgh: Good sports town... larger market than 9 existing NBA markets.

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Rust-belt relic. NBA is way too modern for this berg (I mean pit).

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Originally Posted by Kent_in_Atlanta

8 - Cincinnati: Definitely large enough to support an NBA team (larger than 6 existing NBA markets), and the Pacers are the only NBA franchise within a 250 mile radius of Cinci.

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Like Vegas, has a bit of the rebel in it -- nurtured by Huggins the way Tark did in LV. Would likely support the NBA in its own redneck way.

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Originally Posted by Kent_in_Atlanta

The only 2 cities I feel absolutely SHOULD get a team as soon as the NBA can make it happen... are St. Louis and OKC.

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Maybe OKC. Remember, SA had to fight for a team -- even the ABA didn't wanna let SA in. Make 'em earn it. :)

I kinda like the sound of The Boise Tots.

How about Victoria?

Cuidad Acuna?

The Matamoros Puddle Jumpers.

Angola, LA.....

The Hornets should be on the move again fairly soon. New Orleans is not supporting this team and I doubt anything will change unless the Hornets become a contender. And while they're good, they're not nearly that good.

So who should get them? I'd say OKC makes the most sense, but if the Sonics are already headed that way then the Hornets need another spot.

Kansas City is probably the best option out there to expand, they just finished a brand new badass arena downtown and the city is pretty supportive of the Royals and every Chiefs game is sold out. The metro area is huge and I think a basketball team there these days would thrive.

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Originally Posted by Spurminator

Assuming the Sonics leave Seattle, I wonder if Vancouver wouldn't be worth another shot?

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Ah, I can only wish for that to happen :(

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Originally Posted by TxJudsonRocketTx

Kansas City is probably the best option out there to expand, they just finished a brand new badass arena downtown and the city is pretty supportive of the Royals and every Chiefs game is sold out. The metro area is huge and I think a basketball team there these days would thrive.

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I've heard they're actually more interested in getting an NHL team rather than the NBA. They're said to be shooting for the Penguins that are supposedly looking to leave Pittsburgh. With the youth of Crosby and Malkin, that wouldn't be a bad team to have either.

Clippers needs to move back to San Diego, city is ready

Pittsburgh should have a team . very nice city with $$$

Las Vegas is also perfect but with that ref situation it wont happen, i would love NBA in Vegas full time.

i dont think OKC is a good city to hold NBA for many years after it loses its appeal, they are gonna be another Charlotte or N.O.

I think Monterey, Mexico would be a good city in case they expand south of the border but thats a way way long shot

...all these cities would be better served building parks and museums, and replenishing water and energy supplies than financing a NBA Team...

I live in Tampa, and I agree with Russ...we must have the most bandwagoner sports fans in the country down here (see Bucs, Bulls). I don't see TB being able to support an NBA franchise through thick and thin, especially with the Magic less than an hour away in Orlando.

i got it.. the Hawaii Chiefs! :devil

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Originally Posted by urunobili

i got it.. the Hawaii Chiefs! :devil

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That would make for a hell of a road trip, though. :lol

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Originally Posted by K-State Spur

st. louis is a great baseball town. but i wouldn't call them a great sports city. their support of the rams and mizzou athletics is lukewarm at best.

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Except that Mizzou is in Columbia, about 120 miles from StL. Its is just around 45 mins to an hour further to the campuses of Illinois and Indiana. Kansas City is also about 120 miles from Columbia.

And that the Rams are about 98% full every game even tho they just got their first win of the year - about the same percentage as Pitsburgh and Kansas City and higher than Dallas, Indy and San Diego.

So I guess you could call KC's support of the Chefs and Mizzou lukewarm at best. Not to mention that the only team in the MLB that have worse attendance this decade is Tampa Bay.

I don't think anybody in their right mind would say that STL supports the Rams like KC does the Chiefs or PIT does the Steelers. (and NFL attendance, like other sports, is based on tickets sold, not bodies in the arena.)

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Originally Posted by K-State Spur

I don't think anybody in their right mind would say that STL supports the Rams like KC does the Chiefs or PIT does the Steelers. (and NFL attendance, like other sports, is based on tickets sold, not bodies in the arena.)

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NFL says TV blackout policy isn't antiquated
By Dan Caesar
ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH
10/27/2007

...That will be the case Sunday in St. Louis, as a Rams home game won't be carried locally for just the third time the team moved to St. Louis in 1995 — but for the second home game in a row. The Edward Jones Dome will be about 3,000 tickets short of a sell out....

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No blackout for Chiefs
The Capital-Journal
Published Friday, October 05, 2007
The prospect of the first local TV blackout of a Chiefs game since 1990 ended Thursday.

Tickets for the Sunday's noon game with Jacksonville at Arrowhead had been available all week, raising the prospect that the game might not be sold out in time for the NFL's TV blackout provisions to be lifted.

But the Chiefs confirmed Thursday that the league now considers the game to be within sellout limits, even as some individual tickets remain unsold. The Kansas City television station scheduled to broadcast the game — KCTV (Channel 5) in this case — traditionally purchases remaining tickets as a hedge against losing extensive local advertising revenue already sold for the telecast.

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Visibly empty seats at Arrowhead and speculations that some games may be under a television blackout if more tickets are not sold haven’t created a stir among even the most fervent Chiefs fan. The unveiling of the new Arrowhead Stadium received some acknowledgment but still…. Where is the celebrated Chiefs passion? Missing.

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No mention of the Mizzou reference, I see.

East St. Louis needs a team. First 20,000 fans get free soup or an AIDS test. Place would sell out every game.

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Originally Posted by Assman

East St. Louis needs a team. First 20,000 fans get free soup or an AIDS test. Place would sell out every game.

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lawl

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Originally Posted by Assman

East St. Louis needs a team. First 20,000 fans get free soup or an AIDS test. Place would sell out every game.

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Would Larry Flynt own the team?

The NBA would have to change its usual schedule for East St. Louis home games. 7:30 PM is too early a start time; most residents are just waking up then.

For aesthetic effect, the arena should be made out of 100-year-old brick overgrown with ivy and weeds, and there should be an extra wing of the building that looks "collapsed" for authenticity.

What about Calgary, Alberta.....1.1 million people with Edmonton, Alberta just 2.5 hours away with 1 million as well....still a long shot... :)

Buenos Aires, Argentina.

One hour time diference with the East Cost. Only an 8 hour flight from Miami or Dallas.

And best of all, we would not have to support the Spurs anymore :)

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Originally Posted by ShoogarBear

The NBA won't go back to San Diego.

I can't see the Baltimore market supporting a team in-between the Sixer and Wiz.

I don't think Pittsburgh's a big basketball town, either. From what I know, I agree with what K-State Spurs said about St. Looey.

And y'know, despite all the talk, I think the support for a team in Vegas would suck unless they're a winner. That's probably the ultimate front-running town.

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Of the 3 major sports, and MLB franchise is far and away the toughest kind of franchise to sustain (primarily because of broken MLB economics).

If Baltimore can support an MLB team in between teams in Phili and Wash... they can support an NBA team there.

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Originally Posted by ShoogarBear

9. New York

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NIIIICE!!

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Originally Posted by Spurminator

Assuming the Sonics leave Seattle, I wonder if Vancouver wouldn't be worth another shot?

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Vancouver has been tried very recently. Don't remember all the reasons for the Grizzlies move to Memphis, but I'm assuming the franchise wasn't a giant success up north.

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Originally Posted by TxJudsonRocketTx

Kansas City is probably the best option out there to expand, they just finished a brand new badass arena downtown and the city is pretty supportive of the Royals and every Chiefs game is sold out. The metro area is huge and I think a basketball team there these days would thrive.

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St. Louis is 50% larger (overall metro area) than Kansas City. (1.5 mill vs. 2.3 mill). That doesn't mean KC can't be a good basketball city... there's more to it than just population.

I live in Atlanta, which is the 8th largest market in the country, and the Hawks probably didn't enjoy as much support as they deserved when they were good. In recent years of course, this franchise has been a mess, so it's hard to blame people for not showing up.

But population is important. I like the the odds of a city of 2.3 mill supporting 3 major pro sports franchises better than I like the chances of a 1.5 million-city successfully doing so.

Moving the Sonics is a travesty! They should stay in Seattle for reasons of history and the fact that it is a growing, high income city and a doorway to Asia, and the hornets should move back to OKC where they got great support.

Moving the Sonics to OKC makes no sense whatsoever to me.

I am in favor of okc getting a team
I am oppoed to san antonio getting a football team though ( don;t wan to losee dallas cowboy media coverage)

other than OKC (b/c it'd be the only major league team in town), i can't see any of these cities getting excited about basketball.

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Originally Posted by Kent_in_Atlanta

Unlike Major League Baseball, the NBA can operate a successful franchise in nearly any city of at least 1 million in population.

The following cities deserve NBA franchises (in order):

1 - St. Louis: No brainer. 20th largest metro area in the country... one of the best sports cities in America, and there isn't another NBA franchise within 250 miles.
2 - Oklahoma City: They've already proven themselves
3 - San Diego: Largest city in the country without an NBA franchise.
4 - Tampa Bay: 19th largest city in the country, and the second largest w/out an NBA team.
5 - Baltimore: 20th largest city in the country
6 - Las Vegas: Fastest growing city in America, isn't it?
7 - Pittsburgh: Good sports town... larger market than 9 existing NBA markets.
8 - Cincinnati: Definitely large enough to support an NBA team (larger than 6 existing NBA markets), and the Pacers are the only NBA franchise within a 250 mile radius of Cinci.

Don't get me wrong... I'm not suggesting the NBA place franchises in all 8 cities. I merely saying that they could place a franchise in any of the 8.

The only 2 cities I feel absolutely SHOULD get a team as soon as the NBA can make it happen... are St. Louis and OKC.

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Originally Posted by Kent_in_Atlanta

Vancouver has been tried very recently. Don't remember all the reasons for the Grizzlies move to Memphis, but I'm assuming the franchise wasn't a giant success up north.

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Most of it had to do with the utter ineptitude of the front office.

Personally, I think it's the Clippers that should move to OKC. Aren't the Lakers enough? It's time for the Clippers to take their own identity. The league should have a policy which states, there shall be no city with two commited teams. Really, is it neccessary? Talk about a bunch of greedy bastards. :lol

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Originally Posted by remingtonbo2001

Personally, I think it's the Clippers that should move to OKC. Aren't the Lakers enough? It's time for the Clippers to take their own identity. The league should have a policy which states, there shall be no city with two commited teams. Really, is it neccessary? Talk about a bunch of greedy bastards. :lol

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I respect what the Hornets owner is trying to do, but I think at some point he'll have to give in to reality. New Orleans can't really support this team anymore. OKC is probably where they belong now.

I agree that the Clippers need to move. Why would they want to continue playing eternal second-fiddle in LA??

I think the Hornets should move back to OKC, and the Clips should land either back in San Diego, or in St. Louis.

I'd like to see one in Oklahoma City.

1 - St. Louis - had it, didn't support it.
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3 - San Diego - had it, didn't support it.
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5 - Baltimore - had it, didn't support it.
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8 - Cincinnati - had it, didn't support it.

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Originally Posted by clubalien

I am oppoed to san antonio getting a football team though ( don;t wan to losee dallas cowboy media coverage)

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Oh god, I'd favor that like Georgia would a flood! I am so sick and tired of the Cowboy coverage locally, it's sickening.

KSAT actually recently covered some needless story about the Cowboys before they did Spurs game results, on game night.

Greg Simmons couldn't lose the erection quick enough.

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Originally Posted by exstatic

1 - St. Louis - had it, didn't support it.
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3 - San Diego - had it, didn't support it.
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5 - Baltimore - had it, didn't support it.
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8 - Cincinnati - had it, didn't support it.

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I think we would support it if it came to town. Of course thats me being a Baltimore homer. I totally despise the Wizards. That was the same thing people said about us getting the Ravens that we wouldn't support them. Those freakin PSL seat licenses are sold out for like 20 years or something like that.

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Originally Posted by Kent_in_Atlanta

Of the 3 major sports, and MLB franchise is far and away the toughest kind of franchise to sustain (primarily because of broken MLB economics).

If Baltimore can support an MLB team in between teams in Phili and Wash... they can support an NBA team there.

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Yeah, but in baseball, the Orioles were there waaaay before the Nationals, so they're by far the established product. Even with that, Orioles' ownership fought for years to prevent a team in DC precisely because a lot of their draw came from that area.

I think the jury may still be out on how well the Baltimore/DC market supports two baseball teams. The saving grace may be they're in different leagues.

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Originally Posted by exstatic

1 - St. Louis - had it, didn't support it.
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3 - San Diego - had it, didn't support it.
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5 - Baltimore - had it, didn't support it.
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8 - Cincinnati - had it, didn't support it.

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You're going back a ways my friend. The NBA has grown in overall following in the years since these cities had a pro basketball franchise.

San Diego's had more teams than that, including the Rockets. But it's always been a Laker town.

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Originally Posted by ShoogarBear

9. New York

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Oh god, I'd favor that like Georgia would a flood! I am so sick and tired of the Cowboy coverage locally, it's sickening.

KSAT actually recently covered some needless story about the Cowboys before they did Spurs game results, on game night.

Greg Simmons couldn't lose the erection quick enough.

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I know! They put the damn cowboys (like they're the San Antonio Cowboys) over our Professional franchise a lot and that does piss me off too. Hell, they'll put freakin High School Football before the Spurs. Talk about some Po Dunk shit!

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Originally Posted by Kent_in_Atlanta

You're going back a ways my friend. The NBA has grown in overall following in the years since these cities had a pro basketball franchise.

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StL is a shrinking rust belt city, and is probably a worse market than they were in the 1950s. SD is literally fucking broke and may lose the Chargers if they aren't careful. Baltimore has proximity issues. Maybe Cincy....maybe.

Montreal:

Hot Women :hungry:

Great Arena :tu

Super freezy winters :guin

1 NBA fan (me) :nerd

Yeah, that would be a raging success :lol :lol

I have been silently hoping for a St. Louis team for a few years now. That would be really cool, Arkansas would start to look into traveling as majority already vacation in Branson and attend many Cards game. Most are Cards fans as am I although I don't follow baseball, at all.

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Montreal:

Hot Women :hungry:

Great Arena :tu

Super freezy winters :guin

1 NBA fan (me) :nerd

Yeah, that would be a raging success :lol :lol

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Beautiful sig. Haven't seen that pic before and don't care that is just my heart as a fan in a picture. :clap

What about Wyoming? The Clippers could move there and their name would still make sense.

or am i stupid?

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Originally Posted by florige

I think we would support it if it came to town. Of course thats me being a Baltimore homer. I totally despise the Wizards. That was the same thing people said about us getting the Ravens that we wouldn't support them. Those freakin PSL seat licenses are sold out for like 20 years or something like that.

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I don't even think city officials are thinking of attracting an NBA or NHL team -- any plans I've seen for a new arena aren't big enough for either. Maybe they'll get the Wizards' D-League team.

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Originally Posted by lefty

Montreal:

Hot Women :hungry:

Great Arena :tu

Super freezy winters :guin

1 NBA fan (me) :nerd

Yeah, that would be a raging success :lol :lol

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I will agree that there are some super hot girls from Montreal. :clap

austin does not need an nba team but is still a better choice than some you shit heads are making.

The NBA needs to worry about the current NBA cities that don't deserve teams before adding. New Orleans and Atlanta to start off need to move their franchises, so those are two teams that can find new homes.

Hawaii!


Who would object to that. Everyone loves Hawaii. :lol

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Originally Posted by Extra Stout

How about Victoria?

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They could call them the Victoria Tards.

I keed, I keed.

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Beautiful sig. Haven't seen that pic before and don't care that is just my heart as a fan in a picture. :clap

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Thanks

Stole it from Espn.com

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I will agree that there are some super hot girls from Montreal. :clap

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Yup

Let's move the Spurs to Montreal :drunk

:lol Nobody got the point of the bump.

Hey, the Pisces did good in Pittsburgh back in the '70's

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Montreal:

Hot Women :hungry:

Great Arena :tu

Super freezy winters :guin

1 NBA fan (me) :nerd

Yeah, that would be a raging success :lol :lol

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plus the toronto vs montreal games would be fun to watch just like the canadians vs leafs

I think Mianus, Conneticut deserves a team.

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Originally Posted by JamStone

The NBA needs to worry about the current NBA cities that don't deserve teams before adding. New Orleans and Atlanta to start off need to move their franchises, so those are two teams that can find new homes.

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Uhhh.. THE CLIPPERS!

No city needs 2 teams of the same profession.

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Originally Posted by Kent_in_Atlanta

Unlike Major League Baseball, the NBA can operate a successful franchise in nearly any city of at least 1 million in population.

The following cities deserve NBA franchises (in order):

1 - St. Louis: No brainer. 20th largest metro area in the country... one of the best sports cities in America, and there isn't another NBA franchise within 250 miles.
2 - Oklahoma City: They've already proven themselves
3 - San Diego: Largest city in the country without an NBA franchise.
4 - Tampa Bay: 19th largest city in the country, and the second largest w/out an NBA team.
5 - Baltimore: 20th largest city in the country
6 - Las Vegas: Fastest growing city in America, isn't it?
7 - Pittsburgh: Good sports town... larger market than 9 existing NBA markets.
8 - Cincinnati: Definitely large enough to support an NBA team (larger than 6 existing NBA markets), and the Pacers are the only NBA franchise within a 250 mile radius of Cinci.

Don't get me wrong... I'm not suggesting the NBA place franchises in all 8 cities. I merely saying that they could place a franchise in any of the 8.

The only 2 cities I feel absolutely SHOULD get a team as soon as the NBA can make it happen... are St. Louis and OKC.

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how about no


NBA league is shitty already, how much more shitty would it be with additional teams.

BTW New York, biggest city in the country does NOT deserve a team

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plus the toronto vs montreal games would be fun to watch just like the canadians vs leafs

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Damn, I completely forgot about the MTL - TO rivalry

what has OKC proven?

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how about no


NBA league is shitty already, how much more shitty would it be with additional teams.

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Furnish proof of this please, Mr. Simmons.

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Originally Posted by davi78239

Hell, they'll put freakin High School Football before the Spurs. Talk about some Po Dunk shit!

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You do know you're in Texas, right? High School football runs Texas over any other thing in Texas, period.