Hollinger: Manu for MVP and 6th man

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Originally Posted by Kermit

That's an excellent clip of Manu's performance in a NBA playoff or Finals game. You got me. Manu is the most supercalaclutchilistic dude ever. He shits game winning baskets. Just don't ask him not to foul a shooter when you have the lead in a game 7 and a win sends you to the Finals. Maybe he fouled Dirk just to prove that he's even more clutch.

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Actually there´s a better clip of Manu and his playoffs performance in 2005 and the finals that year.
I´ll find it for you,don't worry.

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Originally Posted by ArgSpursFan.

Actually I knew Reggie never won an NBA championship,I just didnt recall him playing an NBA Final game.
But Still 0 championships vs 3 championships.

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Manu 3 championships, Wilt Chamberlain 2 championships.

Manu 1,000,000,000,000 times greater than Wilt.

Wilt Chamberlain 20,000 women, Manu?

Wilt 1,000,000,000 times greater STD's than Manu.

Praise be to our lord Manu Ginobili, who crossed over and dunked on Jesus Christ in the year of our Lord 2007 A.M. (After Manu).

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Originally Posted by Kermit

That's an excellent clip of Manu's performance in a NBA playoff or Finals game. You got me. Manu is the most supercalaclutchilistic dude ever. He shits game winning baskets. Just don't ask him not to foul a shooter when you have the lead in a game 7 and a win sends you to the Finals. Maybe he fouled Dirk just to prove that he's even more clutch.

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thank you for showing everbody here that even spurs fans underrate him.
BTW,It was a game 6 dude.

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Originally Posted by ArgSpursFan.

BTW,It was a game 6 dude.

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Get your facts straight.

Good Lord (or is it Manu for you?). :lmao

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Originally Posted by Kermit

Manu 3 championships, Wilt Chamberlain 2 championships.

Manu 1,000,000,000,000 times greater than Wilt.

Wilt Chamberlain 20,000 women, Manu?

Wilt 1,000,000,000 times greater STD's than Manu.

Praise be to our lord Manu Ginobili, who crossed over and dunked on Jesus Christ in the year of our Lord 2007 A.M. (After Manu).

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We're talking about being clutch here,not who's the better player.Of course Chamberlain is one of the best players in history.
but I really don't know how good was Chamberlain under presure,cose that's the point of discussion here.

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Originally Posted by MaNuMaNiAc

Christ! you DO realize Manu is playing with perhaps the GREATEST FORWARD TO EVER PLAY THE GAME!!! right? That fact doesn't escape your grasp, right? Who did Reggie Miller play with that even comes close to Duncan?? Manu is clutch, but until he does something along the lines of this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtPaMgyz4ec, lets not insult Reggie, shall we!!?

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Thanks. Rik Smits + Jermaine O'Neal < Tim Duncan.

In all seriousness, Manu is a better defender and probably a better all-around player than Miller. He does not have Reggie's shooting touch, however.

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Originally Posted by ArgSpursFan.

Manu one clutch basket in Italian League game which is not important to discussion 1,000,000 greater than Reggie Miller's numerous ass-rapings in the against numerous teams in the waning moments of important playoff games.

We sniff Manu's farts, all hail Manu.

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Is that the same ArgSpursFan that was racist as shit and got banned?

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Originally Posted by Humble Billy Hayes

Is that the same ArgSpursFan that was racist as shit and got banned?

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I don't think so. This guy may own himself a lot, but he does it in a very cortious manner

Manu is not underrated. He gets major love from the media, especially Charles Barkley.

Manu did get robbed in '05, but it was to Tim so who cares.

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Originally Posted by ArgSpursFan.

thank you for showing everbody here that even spurs fans underrate him.
BTW,It was a game 6 dude.

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ok, so what exactly is the reason for this praticular blunder? :lol We're talking little more than a year ago, were you not watching then?

Manu started very hot in the 2005/6 season and then he came back to Earth.

I'm sure Nikos remembers.

That would be one of the craziest thing to ever happen in sports history!. win three awards all in one season!.. and what if (I mean when) the spurs win the title again this season he become MVP there too?... that would be awesome!

I don't like this playing great in November crap. Spurs need to start sucking and then SPAM

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Originally Posted by MaNuMaNiAc

oh just give it up! for every clutch Manu moment you come up with, you'll get three Reggie classics. Don't be stupid! I love Manu as well, but Reggie under pressure? not even close

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You can throw in some Robert Horry on top of that.
Manu is a different type of clutch player. He doesn't make the big shot, he just plays clutch during stretches when we need him to during the game as a whole.
Miller (and Horry) are more known for there clutch 3's than most anything else.

The talking heads on local Dallas sports radio and even Mavs players themselves are touting Jason Terry as the supposed runaway favorite for Sixth Man of the Year. Even Terry himself is sqawking about his credentials - which is customary for him. It's typcial of the Mavs and their followers to focus on individual accolades.

Manu has better all-around numbers and is perhaps playing the best ball of anyone in the NBA at this point - besides Garnett. It's a long season, but I expect if he keeps up this pace, Manu will win the award.

Spurs will again hoist the Larry O'Brien trophy in the end, too. Book it!

I just love that Manu is now perhaps the clutchest player in NBA history and probably the most underrated player ever. Can we come up with any more superlatives for Manu?

Again, I love the guy, but this is ridiculous. Manu has virtually no shot at winning MVP. He's the 2nd or 3rd best player on a dominant team, but even if he's the clutchest dude to ever lace up a pair of sneakers, he's too inconsistent from a statistical standpoint to be an MVP-type player. Add to that the fact that he'll never be seen as "the man" in San Antonio -- and for good reason -- and you end up with a guy whose top-out point is All-Star reserve and maybe Finals MVP.

Say what you will about the significance of an award like Finals MVP, but there are a number of historical examples to illustrate that a player who wins Finals MVP won't necessarily be a regular season MVP candidate: Tony Parker, Cedric Maxwell, Chauncey Billups, Joe Dumars, James Worthy, Dennis Johnson, Jo Jo White. For those sorts of players, multiple All-Star games is about the best regular season accolade they can reasonably expect.

There's a quantum difference between a guy who is an All-Star caliber player who might win an award like Finals MVP and a guy who is among the 5-10 best players in the game at any given moment and should be considered a true MVP candidate. Manu Ginobili is a wonderful basketball player -- a Hall of Famer if you ask me -- but not an MVP candidate.

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/insid...l-Decline-0708
From "All-Decline" to All-NBA in five days.

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Nothing to be surprised, Manu is climbing like Intl's Oil Price :music

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Originally Posted by E20

Spurs Big 3 + Pop as the HC in the ASG.
Bostons Big 3 + Doc as the HC in the ASG.

See who wins.

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Just a whish, could we avoid POP? you know ASG would be boring with POP on the bench!

i could care less about all the individual awards, but i agree with "reggie miller" (the poster) that manu is a better overall player than reggie. all reggie had on manu was a great shooting stroke and a bigger mouth.

both have had their clutch moments, and both have choked. you cant win them all.

once upon a time, a team led by manu, sans duncan, beat a team led by reggie, + several all stars (baron davis, paul pierce, elton brand, jermaine oneal), in reggie's very own canseco field house. it was the first time a foreign team beat a US team of NBA players.

and as far as "clutchiest" player in NBA history, I can't believe reggie miller is even being mentioned. larry bird is far and away the best candidate for that title.

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Originally Posted by FromWayDowntown

Add to that the fact that he'll never be seen as "the man" in San Antonio .

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Don't know about that. You might be surprised. If Duncan ever retires, Manu might very well become "the Man" in San Antonio and Parker right after him.

Manu has been fantastic so far. Whether he can continue we will see. Hope so. All of his contributions usually don't show up in the boxscore and his value comes out during the playoffs at crunch time. One of the best clutch players in the NBA today. Loved him from day one.

I hope El Contusion can stay healthy but with his fearless style of play he will get his bumps and bruises along the way.

Manu has as much chance as winning the regular MVP award as sequ playing for the Spurs.

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Originally Posted by SpurOutofTownFan

Don't know about that. You might be surprised. If Duncan ever retires, Manu might very well become "the Man" in San Antonio and Parker right after him.

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I stand corrected. Until 2012, Manu won't really have a chance to be considered "the Man" in San Antonio.

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Originally Posted by FromWayDowntown

I stand corrected. Until 2112, Manu won't really have a chance to be considered "the Man" in San Antonio.

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Man, imagine how many more championships Tim is going to have by then!