did they find some super defense on parker or what?

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Originally Posted by ctpsb

No it's just that he always seems to have a bad game against the Mavericks.

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Granted, Tony doesn't match-up quite as well with the Mavs as he does against other teams. However, to say that he always has a bad game against the Mavs is a huge fallacy.

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Originally Posted by telecomguy

Devin Harris completely ouplayed Parker in every facet of the game. Problem with Tony is that he generally seems play really well against the weaker teams or when we have large leads. When the game is tough, he seems to wilt. Last night, his lanes were shut down and he couldn't lay anything up even when he finally managed to force his way to the rim due to Diop & Dampier. So he started chucking jumpers and you can tell he still doesn't have confidence to hit them on a regular basis under pressure. On top of that Devin completetly abused him with layups, jumpers, passes, etc. I can understand if TP's offense was off sync but his defence (or complete lack of) was non-existent and was the main reason why we got killed in the opening two quarters as Devin or Terry kept on losing Parker easily and made assists or jumpers exposing Spurs defence.

If TP can't stay even with Harris (never mind outplay him), Spurs are going to have major problems with Mavs come playoff time if they should play against each other. What's worse, it looks like Devin's jumper has improved hugely this year so TP can't even lay off him anymore and basically Devin is taller, faster version of TP and perhaps with even a better court vision/assist PG. He is actually learning to become a REAL PG which TP has yet learned to do.

I have always said that if TP's penetration game isn't working for whatever reason (typically when defence has good shotblockers and pack the lane), TP has to hit the jumpers OR play as a REAL Point Guard by facilitating for others. Even though he got 8 assists last night, I didn't feel that he broke the Mavs defense or really made crisp passes like Nash or Kidd to open up players.

I hope it was just one off night but I have seen this picture before when TP gets shut down both on offense and defence and his willingness or competitiveness wilts.

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Give up this kind of idiocy.

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Originally Posted by K-State Spur

It's tough to read too much into a game where one team clearly wanted it much more than the other. And it's tough to read too much into anything that the Spurs do - one way or the other - until the Rodeo trip.

All that said, of course Dallas is a threat. But they are not unbeatable like some on here like to make out after a loss like that.

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I don't think anyone thinks Dallas is unbeatable. I certainly don't.

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Originally Posted by phoneboy

basically Devin is taller, faster version of TP and perhaps with even a better court vision/assist PG

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:lmao

Good to see the Parker haters back out of their hole. Hadn't seen them in months.

Welcome back.

If Tony was able to knock down his J like he's been able to before, the lane would have opened up and we wouldn't be having this conversation. However he wasn't knocking them down, so the lane was clogged and he was shut down completely.

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Originally Posted by DubMcDub

I don't think anyone thinks Dallas is unbeatable. I certainly don't.

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actually not referring to the Mav fans. it's the Spurs' own fans who act like the biggest morons after games like last night.

so duncan gets 5 points the game before and everyone is ok with it because it was duncan
now tp had a bad shooting night and it is not ok
can not have it both ways people

TP had an off night from the perimeter. It looked like he was sick or he lacked energy. I don't think it was the defense. If he's knocking down his jumper, then lanes will open up for him.

To compound the problem, Michael Finley is way off. You combine TP's struggles with Finley's lack of production and you get what happended last night.

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Originally Posted by Kori Ellis

Give up this kind of idiocy.

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Just because you're a moderator does it mean your word is holy?

The man had good points.

Tony Parker is too one dimensional player, his BB IQ is average at best, and that's not too nice for a PG against strong teams who can play D in an intelligent way. In such cirscumtances, Basketball IQ is more needed than just physical attributes, the one that usually bring players like Tim, Manu, Oberto or Horry in playoffs or in difficult games, not Parker.

Parker had the luck of having the oposing starter PG injured in the past finals, and that Tim was robbed the MVP (Tony scored more, but little else, while Tim brought a lot of intangibles and D, depite scoring a little less).

So, you shouldn't label idiocy so easily, perhaps other people can have valid points, don't you think?

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Originally Posted by Dartherus

Just because you're a moderator does it mean your word is holy?

The man had good points.

Tony Parker is too one dimensional player, his BB IQ is average at best, and that's not too nice for a PG against strong teams who can play D in an intelligent way. In such cirscumtances, Basketball IQ is more needed than just physical attributes, the one that usually bring players like Tim, Manu, Oberto or Horry in playoffs or in difficult games, not Parker.

Parker had the luck of having the oposing starter PG injured in the past finals, and that Tim was robbed the MVP (Tony scored more, but little else, while Tim brought a lot of intangibles and D, depite scoring a little less).

So, you shouldn't label idiocy so easily, perhaps other people can have valid points, don't you think?

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one dimensional how? he scores by driving and his shot, while not clutch, is on par with a lot of players, lately, i think. he's no steve nash but he's not a terrible passer. and his defense is pretty cool, i thought, ever since he handled rip hamilton in game 5 of 05, and then handled iverson in 07, nash/whoever he got for phoenix, and deron was a beast but even bowen wasn't stopping that kid.

Too much sex going on. That's all.

I just don't understand why this thread became a Harris/Parker discussion forum... any Mavs fans care to elaborate?

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Originally Posted by SpurOutofTownFan

Too much sex going on. That's all.

I just don't understand why this thread became a Harris/Parker discussion forum... any Mavs fans care to elaborate?

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Why? Because that disparity was what mostly decided the outcome of the game. Harris played lights out and Parker could not have played worse. It wasn't all his fault but surely had lot to do with the outcome?

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Originally Posted by Dartherus

Tony Parker is too one dimensional player, his BB IQ is average at best, and that's not too nice for a PG against strong teams who can play D in an intelligent way. In such cirscumtances, Basketball IQ is more needed than just physical attributes, the one that usually bring players like Tim, Manu, Oberto or Horry in playoffs or in difficult games, not Parker.

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Nicely put. :tu

ONE GAME!! it was ONE GAME!! Otherwise he's played balls out for the past nine! Jesus! some people are beyond help

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Originally Posted by MaNuMaNiAc

ONE GAME!! it was ONE GAME!! Otherwise he's played balls out for the past nine! Jesus! some people are beyond help

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Exactly right. What the hell is wrong with people? One walk-through game and the guy is crap? Gimme a break! Yes, Harris seems to match up pretty well with Parker, but overall, Harris is not even close as a player night in and night out. Let's everyone remember that the Spurs are by now long conditioned by experience and coaching to crank up the intensity during the "Feb. Rodeo Road Trip". Traditionally, they get it all going then and roll into the playoffs as a completely different team. So this is way too early to even get a read on what kind of team the Spurs will be in May-June. This time of year the team is prone to throw-away games. The Dallas game was one of them.

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Originally Posted by Dartherus

Just because you're a moderator does it mean your word is holy?

The man had good points.

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Maybe you don't know what you are talking about or why I addressed that specific poster's idiocy. The poster who has been nothing but disruptive on our board, has been banned repeatedly and begged his way back. The guy who brings absolutely no other contributions except for to bash Parker (and a few shots at Bowen) and that's it.

So next time when you aren't in a frickin conversation, maybe you should stay the hell out of it.

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So, you shouldn't label idiocy so easily, perhaps other people can have valid points, don't you think?

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I'd say its pretty easy to label you and him as complete and utter idiots.

Goodbye.