Game Thoughts: Spurs @ Mavs - Nov. 15

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Originally Posted by Reggie Miller

Don't forget: who are the Spurs going to put on Nowitzki? I think Dirk alone could make you pay in that scenario as well. He's difficult to defend one on one when he gets the ball in the elbow, unless you throw a big body on him.

Still, I wish they'd at least try it. At least I would stop bitching about Pop being stubborn...

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That too. Dirk has proven that he can outplay whomever defends him. Duncan can't defend him obviously. If Bowen is on him, it will allow Howard to get any shot he wants because Ginobili cannot defend him. Parker clearly cannot defend either Harris or Terry, and somehow Stackhouse is always finding a way to get open as well. I think the Spurs only chances are if they do some effective double teaming, rotate well, and hope that the Mavs miss some easy shots, because the Mavs match up way too well with them.

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Originally Posted by Holt's Cat

Well, I'm glad the insecure Mav Fan SpursTalk.com clusterfuck is starting to come back. I was concerned about them after their latest postseason debacle.

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We're insecure? I would hate to see what this board looks like if heaven forbid the Spurs get eliminated in the playoffs, which is much easier said than done.

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Originally Posted by Findog

We're insecure?

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Yes.

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I would hate to see what this board looks like if heaven forbid the Spurs get eliminated in the playoffs, which is much easier said than done.

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Sure, the postseason matters.

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Originally Posted by Holt's Cat

Yes.

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lol, 4 rings argument

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Originally Posted by stretch

Parker clearly cannot defend either Harris or Terry

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I've always thought Parker is overrated. He's not a good defender, and what does he bring to the table if he's not scoring? He doesn't run that offense very well, Manu is much better at creating for others than he is. I don't care that he looked like a Hall of Famer against Cleveland.

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Originally Posted by stretch

lol, 4 rings argument

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lol, no rings argument

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Originally Posted by Findog

I've always thought Parker is overrated. He's not a good defender, and what does he bring to the table if he's not scoring? He doesn't run that offense very well, Manu is much better at creating for others than he is. I don't care that he looked like a Hall of Famer against Cleveland.

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Review the last play of Game 5 of the 2005 NBA Finals and get back to me. Thanks.

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Yes.

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Whatever you say. Aside from the obvious trolls, Mav fan has been pretty restrained and ho-hum about this. The overreaction from Spurs Nation is funny. I wish some of you could be GM for a day and ruin your team.

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Originally Posted by Holt's Cat

lol, no rings argument

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lol, further proof of spurs insecurity

Amzingly...adding a bunch of farts together does not result in a less stinky fart...just a bigger, stinkier...fart.

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Originally Posted by Holt's Cat

Review the last play of Game 5 of the 2005 NBA Finals and get back to me. Thanks.

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Horry's shot?

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Originally Posted by Findog

Whatever you say. Aside from the obvious trolls, Mav fan has been pretty restrained and ho-hum about this. The overreaction from Spurs Nation is funny. I wish some of you could be GM for a day and ruin your team.

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:lol that there are non-troll Mav fans.

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Originally Posted by Holt's Cat

Review the last play of Game 5 of the 2005 NBA Finals and get back to me. Thanks.

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Review Devin Harris making him look like a statue last night and get back to me. Dirk gets a blocked shot and draws a charge every once in a while, I'm not about to start comparing him to Bill Russell.

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Originally Posted by stretch

Horry's shot?

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Try again.

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Originally Posted by Holt's Cat

:lol that there are non-troll Mav fans.

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lol, Holt's Cat.

A few thoughts
1) Refereeing. We really need to learn the Pat Riley method of dealing with half-assed reffing. If you are going to get called for pussy fouls, DON'T ease up. Instead, HIT HARDER... Trying to avoid fouls is nearly impossible when the refs are being pussy. Instead, try and get your money's worth. If you think you might get called, take a serious piece of the guy; leave a bruise or three. The refs tend to back off when they realize that pussy foul calls means that your just going to hit harder...

2) If Darius Washington is good enough to keep him on the bench, then use him. If not send him to the Toros. His getting 2 minutes simply is not enough for his development and if he is only getting 2 minutes then he's not good enough to be on the bench...Vaughn, although a decent guy and a reliable veteran, is really a 3ed PG talent. Play Darius so he can learn to be 2nd PG by doing, or send him to the Toros to learn his craft (hopefully he'll learn fast enough to come back up as 2nd PG come February).

3) I was hoping to see Dirk vs. Mahinmi. Mahinmi is perhaps the one player on the roster with the combination of Athleticism, size and power to give Dirk the S-Jax treatment...Defending Dirk is not really a matter of defensive talent. Rather it is a matter of physical capability; neither S-Jax or Matt Barnes is really that skilled defensively (they are not masters of defensive positioning, defensive footwork, or even have particularly sticky hands). However, their combination size, athletic ability and aggressiveness really give Dirk fits. I think Mahinmi can do everything those two do, with an extra 2 or 3 inches thrown in for a good measure...

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Originally Posted by stretch

lol, further proof of spurs insecurity

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So Spurs fans are "insecure" because their favorite team has won 4 titles while Mav fan has seen their team make history in the last two postseasons in the way no franchise wants to make history? Um, ok.

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Originally Posted by Findog

I've always thought Parker is overrated. He's not a good defender, and what does he bring to the table if he's not scoring? He doesn't run that offense very well, Manu is much better at creating for others than he is. I don't care that he looked like a Hall of Famer against Cleveland.

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Agreed. He is a good player, but no superstar like people say. And without Tim Duncan, I don't even know if he is an all-star, considering it is Duncan who gets him all the open layups, and it is clear that his confidence is based on his layups. If people prevent him from making those easy layups, then his shot stops falling, then he is a completely useless player, considering he is not a good passer or defender, or anything else for that matter.

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Originally Posted by Findog

Review Devin Harris making him look like a statue last night and get back to me. Dirk gets a blocked shot and draws a charge every once in a while, I'm not about to start comparing him to Bill Russell.

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Harris did no such thing.

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Originally Posted by Holt's Cat

So Spurs fans are "insecure" because their favorite team has won 4 titles while Mav fan has seen their team make history in the last two postseasons in the way no franchise wants to make history? Um, ok.

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No. Spurs fans are insecure because they jump on the bandwagon without knowing much about basketball, and anytime they get stumped in a debate, they resort to the shitty 4 rings/0 rings argument, thinking it got them somewhere, when in reality, it just shows how much of a clueless douche they really are, like yourself.

Parker isn't as overrated in here as Harris is overrated by Mav fans.

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Originally Posted by whottt

It wasn't a blowout when Barry was in the game.

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The Spurs were down by more than 10 points the entire time Barry was in the game. What part of that do you not understand? He helped trim an 18 point lead down to 10 in a meaningless game. Do you want him to win some sort of award?

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Originally Posted by whottt

And of course I am not claiming this game was more meaningful than a playoff game...I'm saying the situation in which Barry was allowed to play was a more meaningful situation within the game.

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Seriously, did you not watch the 2006 WCSF? Explain to me how Barry playing the final three minutes of the fourth quarter and the entire overtime of Game 4 after Manu fouled out wasn't Barry meaningful minutes. And that's only one example from that series.

I want an explanation on this one. Don't skip it on your reply. I seriously want to see you explain how playing in a November blowout was more meaningful than Barry playing the final 8 minutes of a must win Game 4 on the road. Thanks.

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Originally Posted by whottt

Notice...Barry didn't get many minutes last night overall...what'd he play? 14 minutes?

But the situation in which he was allowed to remain in the game was different...and you saw his impact.

And you see me giving Pop credit for it...all minutes are not the same.

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If by "different" you mean the game wasn't close, your point would be closer to reality. Are you trying to say the only meaningful minutes are minutes when the Spurs are getting blown out in a game that doesn't matter?

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Originally Posted by whottt

Actually he was getting to initiate stuff

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:lmao

Thanks.

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Originally Posted by stretch

No. Spurs fans are insecure because they jump on the bandwagon without knowing much about basketball, and anytime they get stumped in a debate, they resort to the shitty 4 rings/0 rings argument,

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First off, any fan of a DFW pro sports franchise shouldn't be calling anyone else a bandwagoner.

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thinking it got them somewhere, when in reality, it just shows how much of a clueless douche they really are, like yourself.

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Nah, it just shows that you have no response for that.

And the odds of douchebaggery are rather high for you.

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Originally Posted by Holt's Cat

Harris did no such thing.

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lol, Holt's Cat's cateracts.

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Originally Posted by Holt's Cat

Try again.

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Hamilton missing a rushed shot at the end of overtime despite average defense by Parker?