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Re: Charley Rosen on Mavs-Spurs (plus D-Rob critique)
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Re: Charley Rosen on Mavs-Spurs (plus D-Rob critique)
How does a person score 71 pts in single game, from an arsenal of elbow jumpers and put-backs?
Please explain the Quadruple Double. Was this just a statistical error?
2 time Gold Medalist, 1 w/o Jordan, Bird, Magic. 1 Bronze Medal.
This was all before T.D.
Could someone email Rosen a resume of D-Rob's accomplishments?
The man has peanuts for a brain.
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Re: Charley Rosen on Mavs-Spurs (plus D-Rob critique)
Back on topic....Rosen is an idiot. Robinson is a hall of famer and anyone who actually knows the game knows it.
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Re: Charley Rosen on Mavs-Spurs (plus D-Rob critique)
How does one become a Pats and a Mavs fan? Double the douchebaggery there.
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Re: Charley Rosen on Mavs-Spurs (plus D-Rob critique)
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Originally Posted by Kori Ellis
David Dupree :lol
That's who I was thinking about. Is he the one from USA Today? If so, that is the one I was thinking about.
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Re: Charley Rosen on Mavs-Spurs (plus D-Rob critique)
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Originally Posted by remingtonbo2001
How does a person score 71 pts in single game, from an arsenal of elbow jumpers and put-backs?
Please explain the Quadruple Double. Was this just a statistical error?
2 time Gold Medalist, 1 w/o Jordan, Bird, Magic. 1 Bronze Medal.
This was all before T.D.
Could someone email Rosen a resume of D-Rob's accomplishments?
The man has peanuts for a brain.
A better question is to forget the accomplishments and ask...
How does a soft guy lead the lead the league in FTA multiple times...
How does a guy that doesn't love the game, end his superstar career by playing basketball for free, with a hernia...and his regular career...guarding Shaq, with a sever back condition, and a torn meniscus.
For a guy that didn't love basketball...Drob sure did play a lot of it...injured, and otherwise.
3 Dream Teams...if he only he loved the game as much as guys like Garnett and Shaq...who blow that commitment off with regularity...
All you need to know though...is that this guy thinks taking a charge is softer than blocking a shot....that's an idiot there. That's a guy who hasn't even played a pick up game there...
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Re: Charley Rosen on Mavs-Spurs (plus D-Rob critique)
whottt will carry this thread to 10 pages all by himself.
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Re: Charley Rosen on Mavs-Spurs (plus D-Rob critique)
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3 Dream Teams...if he only he loved the game as much as guys like Garnett and Shaq...who blow that commitment off with regularity...
2 actually....92, 96
But he was on the 88 team as well as the 87 Pan Am team.
Rosen is a choade.
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Re: Charley Rosen on Mavs-Spurs (plus D-Rob critique)
i think drob played in 88, before it was the dream team
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Re: Charley Rosen on Mavs-Spurs (plus D-Rob critique)
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Originally Posted by samikeyp
2 actually....92, 96
But he was on the 88 team as well as the 87 Pan Am team.
Rosen is a choade.
Choade: a dick that is wider than its length.
Chode: the area between your sac and your asshole.
So I guess Rosen is what you call a "birthday cake."
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Re: Charley Rosen on Mavs-Spurs (plus D-Rob critique)
Bringing up 50 out of nowhere was schizo. I suppose he didn't want his friend Phil to think he was going Brokeback for the Spurs.
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Re: Charley Rosen on Mavs-Spurs (plus D-Rob critique)
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Contrary to popular opinion, David Robinson was one of the most overrated players of all-time. Here's why:
Although he was a terrific shot-blocker from the weak-side, he was just an average on-the-ball defender.
He was a turnover machine.
His offense was limited to elbow jumpers and put-backs. Otherwise, he liked to take his left hand to the middle and start faking — but if his defender stayed put, then Robinson was always hard-pressed to find a decent shot.
B.D. (before Duncan), the Admiral was infamous for missing clutch free throws in the playoffs.
He played with a remarkable lack of passion, and was always reluctant to bang with the other bigs.
He never won diddly until Tim Duncan showed up in San Antonio.
But Robinson was intelligent, well-behaved, an all-around nice guy, and had nifty numbers. Good enough to fool the media, who fooled the fans.
All of that was the :blah we've seen from Rosen for years about Robinson ... except for the part about turnovers.
I've never heard anyone call Robinson a turnover machine. In fact, for a player who handled the ball as much as he did in his prime, he averaged an astonishingly few amount of turnovers.
You look at his numbers and he averaged less turnovers per game and per minute than just about any superstar bigman I can think of. Per 40 minutes played in his career, David Robinson averaged 2.8 turnovers.
Here's a list of other bigmen's turnovers per 40 minutes over their career:
Tim Duncan - 3.1
Shaquille O'Neal - 3.1
Hakeem Olajuwon - 3.3
Karl Malone - 3.3
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar- 3.3
Charles Barkley - 3.4
Patrick Ewing - 3.5
Moses Malone - 3.6
Those are just off the top of my head and Robinson turned the ball over significantly less than any of those players. Even less than Michael Jordan (2.9 per 40 minutes) and a genuinely soft bigman like Brad Daugherty (3.0 per 40 minutes).
In fact, I challenge someone to find a superstar center that averaged less turnovers per minute than David Robinson. Every superstar (or even star) center I can think of averaged more. Zo? More. Yao? More.
Turnover machine my azz :rollin
What a weak b!tch of a DRob hater Rosen is.
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Re: Charley Rosen on Mavs-Spurs (plus D-Rob critique)
Well there are the facts.
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Re: Charley Rosen on Mavs-Spurs (plus D-Rob critique)
Robert Parish 2.9 - closest I can find.
Wes Unseld 2.3 - there you go.
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Re: Charley Rosen on Mavs-Spurs (plus D-Rob critique)
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Originally Posted by samikeyp
2 actually....92, 96
But he was on the 88 team as well as the 87 Pan Am team.
Rosen is a choade.
False.....it's 3.
He was on the 94 FIBA World Championship Team which was officially designated as Dream Team II.
...which won the World Championship.
3 Dream Teams. 92, 94, and 96.
3 Olympic Teams 88, 92, and 96.
5 Team USAs
86, 88, 92, 94, and 96.
All Team USA Records...
And the only one that failed to win Gold was the 88 team....
No remembers Drob kicking Sabonis ass in the 86 FIBA Championships...
They only bring up Sabonis winning in 88 when Drob's two best teamates couldn't play in the 4th quarter..
Edit: Against a team that scrimmaged NBA teams in prep and was loaded with professional players.
Like I said earlier...if only Drob loved the game like Shaq and Garnett...he'd still be playing.
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Re: Charley Rosen on Mavs-Spurs (plus D-Rob critique)
That must be the worst tie-in of two completely seperate subjects in one article in the history of sports writing. WTF is Rosen on???
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Re: Charley Rosen on Mavs-Spurs (plus D-Rob critique)
A Spurs' loss and Rosen tries to knock DRob who's been out of the game for 4 years.
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False.....it's 3.
He was on the 94 FIBA World Championship Team which was officially designated as Dream Team II.
...which won the World Championship
Ahh...yes, my bad, I knew I was for getting something. :tu
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No remembers Drob kicking Sabonis ass in the 86 FIBA Championships
I do..as well as dunking on him hardcore in 92 in Barcelona.
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Re: Charley Rosen on Mavs-Spurs (plus D-Rob critique)
We're getting sidetracked here guys...
Let's see...
David Robinson held the NCAA career and single season records for total blocks and blocks per game.
He's the all time leading shot blocker in Team USA history.
At the time of his injury...you know the one, when that soft doesn't love the game bitch represented Team USA in the 96 Olympics with a hernia...and basically destroyed his Suerpstar career by playing for free...
He was the all time leader in blocks per game in NBA history...he remains # 4 on that list. He was also the first player in NBA history to block over 300 shots per season his first 3 years in the NBA...
And thanks to Rosen...we know now that David Robinson was afraid to block shots.
Well done Charlie...
Props to you and your manly source(spurs assistant coach) for being men enough to throw his name out there so we can find out just which recovering crack addict on Lucas' staff had the balls to go around calling other players soft behind their backs. What a man...
I swear...if you took a sledge hammer and bashed Rosen's brains to jelly...he'd be no less stupider for it.
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Re: Charley Rosen on Mavs-Spurs (plus D-Rob critique)
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Originally Posted by Kermit
Chode: a dick that is wider than its length.
Taint: the area between your sac and your asshole.
So I guess Rosen is what you call a "birthday cake."
fixed
why do i care?
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Re: Charley Rosen on Mavs-Spurs (plus D-Rob critique)
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Originally Posted by timvp
The problem isn't the Mavs won a game. The problem is not knowing that Rosen is a Phil Jackson's boy toy who has a long standing negative view of David Robinson.
To Spurs fans, Rosen hating on Robinson (even for no reason like he was in this article) is about as unexpected as Stephen A. Smith calling out Dirk.
u just nailed it. However I might think Rosen has something against DROB other than racial bias(the case with SAS).
His personal vendetta against robinson has been ridiculous. To call out someone 4 years out of retirement has to hide something more than a lovefest with Zen master i believe
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Re: Charley Rosen on Mavs-Spurs (plus D-Rob critique)
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Originally Posted by monosylab1k
fuck it, it's what I should have expected. As long as we shit on the Suns fans it's "well gee you Mav fans ain't so bad" but as soon as the Mavs win one meaningless regular season game and Rosen doesn't get the kneepads out for the Spurs Dynasty it's back to "you have no clue WTF you're talking about ya douchebag Mav fan".
delete thread. this was the worst idea ever.
:dramaquee
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Re: Charley Rosen on Mavs-Spurs (plus D-Rob critique)
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Originally Posted by Kermit
Robert Parish 2.9 - closest I can find.
Wes Unseld 2.3 - there you go.
Parish wasn't really a superstar and he still had more turnovers than DRob.
As far as Unseld, that turnover count isn't accurate. The NBA didn't start charting turnovers until 1978 and by that time Unseld was in his 10th year in the NBA and he was a role player. His 2.3 numbers were in his last few years in the league where he averaged about 8 points per game as a role player. That's a far cry from the comparable superstar center with less turnovers that I was looking for ... but nice research.
Let me dig a little deeper.
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Re: Charley Rosen on Mavs-Spurs (plus D-Rob critique)
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Originally Posted by timvp
Let me dig a little deeper.
Wes Unseld is one of the guys in the debate for the greatest passing bigman ever....if he's the only guy that beats Drob out...that says a lot about Drob.
Incidentally...Drob's 4.8 APG in 93-94 were only bettered by 5 C's in NBA history...might be one other that beat him out...
Rusell, Wilt, Walton, Kareem, and Unseld.....something to think about when considering his TO's as well. I think Brad Miller or Vlade may have joined that group since...but still....
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Re: Charley Rosen on Mavs-Spurs (plus D-Rob critique)