Game Thoughts

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Originally Posted by ShoogarBear

-Yahoo lists Darius Washington as a DNP-CD for tonight's. Maybe they meant DNP-GTFO.

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:lol I just spit some beer on my keyboard.

Sequ with more meaningless baseles drivel

Well, I was right on a few things- mostly Kapono and the need to get him touches. The Spurs made their run when Humphries turned into a black hole and Toronto pulled back ahead when Kapono got the ball-- 10 points in the fourth quarter. Delfino also was good defensively. Moon had a few athletic plays, especially the one in the second quarter when he grabbed a rebound over Finley's head.

Say what you want, when a team turns the ball over and shoots as poorly as the Spurs did, you have to give a depleted Raptors team some credit. Spurs had 19 turnovers to the Raptors only having 7. You can say Calderon struggled defensively at times, but he had a better game than Tony Parker-- on all counts. Andrea didn't "let me down"-- 3 rebounds in 34 minutes. Humps with the double double. Dixon still shoots way too much.

As to the Spurs- the bench is nothing without Manu and a little bit of Brent, too. Shot 4-22.

I know I will make people mad but I am proud of the Raptors- they are a young team and could have gotten flustered late in the third quarter when the game got tight- but it was actually the Spurs who looked flustered in the fourth quarter. It was also interesting to hear a bunch of Spurs fans whine that the Raptors were playing too physical.

As to Rasho, normally he would have come in the second quarter when Bosh came out but the game went small then- yet again- and he never got the chance, but tomorrow is Yao, and I know I will get to see him play then.

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It was also interesting to hear a bunch of Spurs fans whine that the Raptors were playing too physical.

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Uh no, that would be called, Duncan getting the shit beat out of him without any foul calls.

But as usual, you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground so this is nothing new.

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As to Rasho, normally he would have come in the second quarter when Bosh came out but the game went small then- yet again- and he never got the chance, but tomorrow is Yao, and I know I will get to see him play then.

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12th man on the raptors.

Nice trade Colangelo :lmao

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Originally Posted by ploto

Well, I was right on a few things- mostly Kapono and the need to get him touches. The Spurs made their run when Humphries turned into a black hole and Toronto pulled back ahead when Kapono got the ball-- 10 points in the fourth quarter. Delfino also was good defensively. Moon had a few athletic plays, especially the one in the second quarter when he grabbed a rebound over Finley's head.

Say what you want, when a team turns the ball over and shoots as poorly as the Spurs did, you have to give a depleted Raptors team some credit. Spurs had 19 turnovers to the Raptors only having 7. You can say Calderon struggled defensively at times, but he had a better game than Tony Parker-- on all counts. Andrea didn't "let me down"-- 3 rebounds in 34 minutes. Humps with the double double. Dixon still shoots way too much.

As to the Spurs- the bench is nothing without Manu and a little bit of Brent, too. Shot 4-22.

I know I will make people mad but I am proud of the Raptors- they are a young team and could have gotten flustered late in the third quarter when the game got tight- but it was actually the Spurs who looked flustered in the fourth quarter. It was also interesting to hear a bunch of Spurs fans whine that the Raptors were playing too physical.

As to Rasho, normally he would have come in the second quarter when Bosh came out but the game went small then- yet again- and he never got the chance, but tomorrow is Yao, and I know I will get to see him play then.

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I don't know why that would make anyone mad, on this night the Raptors came in and took it to the Spurs and commanded the game from the 2nd quarter on. Good showing and a good effort for the TJ Ford-less Raptors.

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Originally Posted by ploto

As to Rasho, normally he would have come in the second quarter when Bosh came out but the game went small then- yet again- and he never got the chance, but tomorrow is Yao, and I know I will get to see him play then.

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Didn't he DNP-CD last game too? Is he just a situational matchup player now? They gotta hate paying $8M for a guy that will only play against Yao, Shaq and a couple other slow centers.

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They gotta hate paying $8M for a guy that will only play against Yao, Shaq and a couple other slow centers.

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Who was it that voted Colangelo for GM of the year last year and this past offseason? :lmao

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Originally Posted by ShoogarBear

-So they got rid of "Y'all Ready For This?" and replaced it with . . . what? Some instantly forgettable nonsense. I've heard it three times now and don't know what it is.

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I have heard it a lot more times than that and I don't know what it is. I couldn't even tell you if it's the same song every game :lol

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-The friggin Coyote is on the fix. In five years he's shot that cannon towards the players' side of the stadium maybe five times. Screw you, Reggie.

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Is he allowed to shoot on that side behind the Spurs bench?

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-Yahoo lists Darius Washington as a DNP-CD for tonight's. Maybe they meant DNP-GTFO.

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:lmao

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Is he allowed to shoot on that side behind the Spurs bench?

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One time he shot twords the bench and nailed Budenholzer.

The cannon was mysteriously missing for a few games after that.

the spurs sucked on offense tonight. As far as im concerned the defense was decent, the hustle was there, we just straight up couldn't hit a shot, and it looks as though the league finally got a tip the tony travels or carries every other possession. Also he had some horrible passes that made me induce vomiting because i had such a god awful taste in my mouth. However i do not think this loss is cause for concern by any means. every team sucks once and while.

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Originally Posted by T Park

One time he shot twords the bench and nailed Budenholzer.

The cannon was mysteriously missing for a few games after that.

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:rollin

He's definitely shot the cannon to the bench side. It's just that the split is something like 4-to-1 against. If they plotted his shot chart, 75% of his shots are probably in the same 3-4 sections.

Yeah, the Coyote is given a designated no fly zone.

The bench is that area.

The starting intro is growing on me.

I wish there was more bass to it, and more beat so it can get the crowd clapping to it.

ALA Portland's.

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Originally Posted by Kori Ellis

Didn't he DNP-CD last game too? Is he just a situational matchup player now? They gotta hate paying $8M for a guy that will only play against Yao, Shaq and a couple other slow centers.

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Rasho started after the fifth game of the season- then he got hurt- then he started when he came back until 2 games ago. Raptors went 10-7 with him in the starting line-up. He played an amazing game against Kaman just last week. Rasho did not lose the starting job because he was playing poorly. The powers that be put pressure to move Bargnani into the starting line-up and give him the minutes no matter what becasue he was sucking so bad off the bench. So now Rasho went in one day from the starter to the guy who will come off the bench situationally. I do not think they are mad about paying his salary for that because Rasho has been very valuable for the team. He came in and started when they were struggling and helped them get back on track. The young guys learn alot from him. But we all know, he is not really an off-the-bench energy guy. His greatest value lies in guarding the opponent's best big man. Overall, the Raptors have opted to develop younger players even at the expense of some regular season losses. I know many Raptors fans who think Rasho in the unsung hero on the team. Some fans in this thread are showing their lack of knowledge about the Raptors.

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Originally Posted by timvp

Bustnani doesn't even try when he's coming off the bench because he knows that the result will be that he'll be put back into the starting lineup. There's no way the Raptors will give Bustnani a string of DNP-CD's so the only way Bustnani doesn't become the starter is if he plays well off the bench ... which he made sure wasn't going to happen.

Anyways, in terms of winning regular season games Rasho >>>>>>>> Bustnani. Bustnani is a player who could score 30 against the Spurs tonight but then go two weeks before having another good game. Rasho will bring it every night and has always been a good regular season player. Compared to Bustnani, Rasho could help the Raptors win 5 to 7 additional games.

I think Mitchell's hands are tied in this situation. He tried to give Bustnani tough love but all it did was make Bustnani suck even more. Management has too much invested in Bustnani to let him rot away on the bench so I'm sure they prodded Mitchell into giving him the starting job. Bosh is a perimeter power forward and Bustnani is basically just a giant shooting guard. Without Rasho in the starting lineup, the closest thing they have to a center is Jamario Moon.

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Originally Posted by ploto

Some fans in this thread are showing their lack of caring about the Raptors.

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Fixed.

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Some fans in this thread are showing their lack of knowledge about the Raptors.

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What can I say.

We couldn't give two shits about mediocre eastern conference teams that are managed so horribly.

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Originally Posted by ploto

Rasho started after the fifth game of the season- then he got hurt- then he started when he came back until 2 games ago. Raptors went 10-7 with him in the starting line-up. He played an amazing game against Kaman just last week. Rasho did not lose the starting job because he was playing poorly. The powers that be put pressure to move Bargnani into the starting line-up and give him the minutes no matter what becasue he was sucking so bad off the bench. So now Rasho went in one day from the starter to the guy who will come off the bench situationally. I do not think they are mad about paying his salary for that because Rasho has been very valuable for the team. He came in and started when they were struggling and helped them get back on track. The young guys learn alot from him. But we all know, he is not really an off-the-bench energy guy. His greatest value lies in guarding the opponent's best big man. Overall, the Raptors have opted to develop younger players even at the expense of some regular season losses. I know many Raptors fans who think Rasho in the unsung hero on the team. Some fans in this thread are showing their lack of knowledge about the Raptors.

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Thanks for the explanation. I didn't get at all how (or why) they are handling him like they are. I doubt they'll give Bargnani a charity start all season, so maybe they give Rasho his spot back eventually.

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Originally Posted by Kori Ellis

Thanks for the explanation. I didn't get at all how (or why) they are handling him like they are. I doubt they'll give Bargnani a charity start all season, so maybe they give Rasho his spot back eventually.

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Rasho Nesterovic is out as the starting center, as head coach Sam Mitchell replaces the veteran with what the team consider's to be it's future, Andrea Bargnani.

"Rasho did what we needed him to do," explained Mitchell. "We're 15-14 but for us to continue to do what we've got to do, to grow as a team, we all believe that Andrea's got to be the starting center."

Mitchell would put no time frame on Bargnani's run as a starter, nor does it look like he has any intention of doing anything other than letting the former No. 1 pick develop by playing the game.

Ready or not.

"When do I think he's ready? Well, it's like asking somebody if they're ready to get married," quipped Mitchell. "Are you ever really quite ready? No, there's never a perfect time. But ... you do it. And I just look at our schedule and the teams we have to play -- how tough they are, we have to do this.

"My intention from this time on is for him to be the starting center. Of course, a lot of that depends on him. But I'm not going to be short-sighted in this. We're gonna give him the time we feel he needs. At some point, we had to go down this road. It's always been our vision that Chris (Bosh) and Andrea play together. They cause match-up problems. Their uniqueness lets us go inside-outside.

"How he's been playing coming off the bench, now is the right time."


http://www.hoopsworld.com/Blogs/Cour...EAGUE_CODE=NBA

Sam also made comments about how there are some things you can only learn playing and not in practice.

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Originally Posted by Sam Mitchell

Their uniqueness lets us go inside-outside.

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Inside to who? Bosh is like a poor man's Kevin Garnett ... but even a bit more perimeter oriented. I'm guessing he means penetration and kick.

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Originally Posted by Sam Mitchell

How he's been playing coming off the bench, now is the right time.

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:lmao

Bargnani got his way. He sucked so bad on the bench that he forced Mitchell's hand. Bargnani threw the NBA's version of a tantrum and got rewarded. Probably not the best precedence to set for a team.

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Originally Posted by ShoogarBear

-The friggin Coyote is on the fix. In five years he's shot that cannon towards the players' side of the stadium maybe five times. Screw you, Reggie.

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I actually caught one of those in the 5th row once. In the words of SpursDynasty, it was a fluke.

In my history of season tickets, only twice has me or the person sitting with me caught a t-shirt from the coyote.

Game 6 of the 2005 Finals and Game 7 of the 2005 Finals :dizzy

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Originally Posted by timvp

In my history of season tickets, only twice has me or the person sitting with me caught a t-shirt from the coyote.

Game 6 of the 2005 Finals and Game 7 of the 2005 Finals :dizzy

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That's some Twlight Zone stuff right there.

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Originally Posted by timvp

In my history of season tickets, only twice has me or the person sitting with me caught a t-shirt from the coyote.

Game 6 of the 2005 Finals and Game 7 of the 2005 Finals :dizzy

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I caught one sec 102 row 20 last season.

I'm so sick and tired of you pop cunts coming up with sorry ass excuses for a a bunch of shitty players.

Toronto's players were better than the shit San Antonio rolled out there tonight...quit blaming refs...

If you continually give minutes to shitty players like Bonner, Vaughn, and Elson, you're going to lose.

Wake the fuck up.


I don't give a shit if bonner goes 20 and 10 the rest of the fucking season... the spurs will be in the lottery if that happens.

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Originally Posted by SequSpur in 2003

I'm so sick and tired of you pop cunts coming up with sorry ass excuses for a a bunch of shitty players.

Toronto's players were better than the shit San Antonio rolled out there tonight...quit blaming refs...

If you continually give minutes to shitty players like Jackson, Claxton, and Rose, you're going to lose.

Wake the fuck up.


I don't give a shit if jackson goes 20 and 10 the rest of the fucking season... the spurs will be in the lottery if that happens.

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no shit.

Different players same BS.

STFU and go make some pie dumbass.